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« Reply #3720 on: March 22, 2008, 08:40:16 AM »

Maybe this was brought up before, but anyway.....

If the general belief is that Simian and Merian Ernest are one and the same
then Alcazar's Revenge makes another good candidate for being simian

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?PHPSESSID=212df9d42a5568a77557dead318cc13b&topic=1186.0

He has some interesting posts:

Alcazar's Revenge

Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:05 am Post subject: Van Rijn
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I do not understand the fixation on Van Rijn. The Police eliminated him as a suspect after extensive harassment. They even literally took his boat, cars and house apart.

He was brought in for questioning a couple of times, but somehow this was not brought in the limelight by the interviews on TV.

His father/family used to own the Volkswagen dealership. They might have sold part of it or completely. He known for off-the-wall behaviour.

Alcazar's Revenge

Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:24 am Post subject: Rape?
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I hear Shango, You haven't seen one piece of legal document on anything. So in that regard you should keep your opinion to yourself.

Why you haven't seen his face on TV, because he was never pointed to by the Twitty's. That is why.

It is a public secret that the casino employees pointed to him as being involved with Natalee and the group during their stay in Aruba. Even alluding to a romantic involvement with Natalee.


At the same time Beth Twitty states that Joran raped her daughter, because she was a virgin. That even if the sex was consensual it was still rape to her.


The reason i think he could be simian/merian is the references in his posts to characters from the TinTin comic book series. For example Alcazar, picaros, tapioca, at one point he says "duizend bommen en granaten" which is a line often used in those comic books by one of the characters.

another post:

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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:03 pm Post subject: Choose sides...

It's helpful to do so. It avoids embarrassment.

The Shivas will be pinched again. Reset your clocks as it may happen before the ides of August.

Do not underestimate the Babylonians. That has been your mistake all along. The words exchanged with the Yellowhammer will haunt Cain. The question is if he will be Abel to tell the truth.

Remember that the block and the hammer are not owned by the Babylonians. Et tu, De Wit?

The whisperer is back on the line. Weak,...but still hungry. Never broken. In the Nemean sense.

"Death to Tapioca!"


Now for the off the wall part.....

I googled Alczars revenge and this came up, off the wall like i said...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Bishop

Mary Bishop was a fictional character on the American soap opera General Hospital.

some quotes from the wiki page:

Mary discovered that the stranger Nikolas spoke to was Lorenzo Alcazar
They painted Emily as a scorned lover that couldn't let go of Connor.
Mary received her medication and went into cardiac arrest and later died. It was discovered that Mary had been given the wrong medication. Suspicion fell on Emily since she was alone with the medicine cart and threatened Mary. The mystery of her murder was never solved, although many believe she was killed by Lorenzo Alcazar

Probably nothing but some of the terms used jumped out

just a thought
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« Reply #3721 on: March 22, 2008, 08:45:19 AM »

curiously, Simian does not use PVDS name until he knew (IMO) that it would hit the news:

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 4:56 pm
The 5th suspect has an alibi so strong that he has everybody baffled.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:00 pm
The 5th suspect was the boyfriend from earlier in the week.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:03 pm
The party-goers said the 5th one was with them. He was the host. How could he have left?

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:09 pm
A scorned lover needs a motive? Drives some people to some crazy deeds.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:13 pm
A jealous boyfriend was at home with some friends. He couldn’t have done it. Sometimes friends will cover for each other.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:16 pm
He had to be let go
Paulus' duties were suspended on or about 6/17/05.
He had been brought in for questioning that day


He had to be let go  is the 5th suspect that is not mentioned by name.

From what i saw in a Nova interview PVDS said he took time off from his job himself. So as not to be thought of as a person with a conflict of interest. Judging by the chronological order of arrests he was indeed the 5th suspect. But for the life of me i just can't fit in the cool and crazy guy and him being the host of the party. Unless the party is supposed to mean the tragic chain of events. But then he is still not the cool and crazy guy

FWIW - the time difference between Paulus' suspension on 17th and Simian's post on the 22nd leads me to believe that it is another person to which Simian refers.

He had to be let go

Simian Says: June 23rd, 2005 at 2:30 pm
Paulus has been picked up.


Maybe it meant he had to be let go from jail, such as was Guido and some of the other ones who never was in jail.

Let go from a job:  PVs, SC, GVC, Guido, Posner left too, perhaps let go in a job or let go from jail as we do not know for sure they quit.  Someone wrote that GVC was no longer working beach patrol at the time, but others say he was.  He had on a uniform in the "searching for NH" group.  Those people are the biggest liars in the world.  They should start a Liars Club of Aruba.  It is a wonder half aren't starved to death thinking their mama was lying when she called them to supper.   Jack/b



Hi Jack,

A few days ago, I put about six Aruban newspaper articles and a statement from GVCs parents.  GVC was no longer working with security.  He was working for a beach boating company and was referred to as a "beach bum".  The family also denied any connections to the security service at the Holiday Inn and their company.  I wonder what that was all about?
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« Reply #3722 on: March 22, 2008, 08:49:45 AM »

Steve Croes is the 4th person arrested...well if you don't count the SG, which had been released by the time Simian was speaking of them. 

but what about the un-named person
who was detained/released the previous night?

detain/arrest: synonyms which share common definition

you say po ta to, I say po tah to ...
they fry up the same

someone detained musta earned suspect status



consecutive Simian posts-need to check....can someone check-is this the point at which #5 has become PVDS????

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 4:56 pm
The 5th suspect has an alibi so strong that he has everybody baffled.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:00 pm
The 5th suspect was the boyfriend from earlier in the week.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:03 pm
The party-goers said the 5th one was with them. He was the host. How could he have left?

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:09 pm
A scorned lover needs a motive? Drives some people to some crazy deeds.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:13 pm
A jealous boyfriend was at home with some friends. He couldn’t have done it. Sometimes friends will cover for each other.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:16 pm
He had to be let go
Paulus' duties were suspended on or about 6/17/05.
He had been brought in for questioning that day
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« Reply #3723 on: March 22, 2008, 08:52:10 AM »

Fifth suspect in custody after U.S. teen's disappearance
Thursday, June 23, 2005; Posted: 10:01 p.m. EDT (02:01 GMT)
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/23/aruba.holloway/index.html



Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 4:56 pm
The 5th suspect has an alibi so strong that he has everybody baffled.
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« Reply #3724 on: March 22, 2008, 09:07:33 AM »

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:16 pm
He had to be let go
Paulus' duties were suspended on or about 6/17/05.
He had been brought in for questioning that day

Simian Says: June 23rd, 2005 at 2:30 pm
Paulus has been picked up.
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« Reply #3725 on: March 22, 2008, 10:05:00 AM »

I'm not sure that we have identified all of the information that Fin was giving us.  These are the surnames that I found in the source which Fin gave.  The names are Croes, van der Westen, van der Biest, van der Woestijne, Poppe, Specht, Solagnier, Zagaria, Castro, Ravine, Tromp, and Lampe.

This is the list that Fin gave us.  We haven't figured out very much of it

Retired ex-polis - Rufo Solognier (uncle and neighbor of Steve Cores)
Blue Blood - ?
Cousins - ?
Crows - Steve Cores (?)
Curacao - ?
Grandmother - ?
Insurance - ?
Blogs - ?
ALE - ?
ex-monkey - no longer posts on SM

Fin wanted us to ask why SGC would lie, and what relations he has to an ex-monkey.
Who is Fin? He didn't join this forum until February.  Was he a former forum member?  How would he know this information about former posters?  I haven't seen Fin post since he gave these cryptic clues. I very quickly identified that Fin knows how genealogy data is gathered.  He knew how LDS gets their information, which might have gone over many monkey heads.  He knew about individuals submitting lineages and the "two on the bike".  Fin has done genealogy research. I think we ned to take a good look a Fin's clues again.

Yes, the Mormons have a great database. Info only good as those who submit lineage, or those two guys on the bikes have time to find. There are others.

Perhaps, to find more fruit, one might need to seek another family tree.

Maybe shake the tree of a retired ex-polis and see what kinda flavour falls out.

Who knows...it may lead to the fifth and a monkey.

Flip tha coin again, sour mash gal.

There is more than one retired polis....

Maybe search: Solagnier + genaruba

ah ... Tio Rufo, SGC's next door neighbor? Rufo... rings a bell. Is he a neighbour?
fin thinks SGC the 5th? Why would he lie? Any reasons? Any relations to an ex-monkey?

the monkey is ex/not current? Posts the cage no more.

RUFO SOLOGNIER
Retired ALE Police Chief

Now that rings a louder bell.

No typos in

Search: Solagnier + genaruba.

Do names through genealogy histories always stay the same?

The ex-monkey is not a Crows, but is related to Crows.

Steve Crows is not the ex-monkey, but maybe related to one.

Shake the Solagnier + genaruba and an ex-monkey will fall out of the tree.

Rufo cannot find a razor, think he could type?

Two words above to be searched with a "+" in between. Does the s-engine still work?

Fin


Am I sour mash girl?    I keep focusing on the changes in the Solagnier spelling.  The family that now spells it Solognier is Rufo.  The family that still spells it Solagnier is the one that was involved in smuggling with the Harms family and Jossy Mansur.  Rufo can't find a razor and typing is also of interest.




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« Reply #3726 on: March 22, 2008, 10:10:38 AM »

Steve Croes is the 4th person arrested...well if you don't count the SG, which had been released by the time Simian was speaking of them. 

but what about the un-named person
who was detained/released the previous night?

detain/arrest: synonyms which share common definition

you say po ta to, I say po tah to ...
they fry up the same

someone detained musta earned suspect status




Finngirl…but what about the one from the 11th. that didn’t happen? It was reported on and posted about on more than one board!

Also according to the Kalpoe car tape of 6/22, Freddy was why they were arrested. Only way for that to happen was if Freddy spoke to ALE prior to 6/9, which we have no record of.

All of this would of course change who is #5…..
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« Reply #3727 on: March 22, 2008, 11:06:46 AM »

I found some research on descendants of Solangier family that was done by Diandre Alders. Do any of these names mean anything to anyone?

1 Michel Benoit SOLAGNIER b: 9 Jun 1754 d: 28 Apr 1831
  + Regina Jacomina CROES b: 14 Oct 1781 d: Bef 1831
    2 Maria Margaretha SOLAGNIER b: 25 May 1804 d: 29 Oct 1861
      + Paulus RAVINE b: 6 Apr 1790 d: 20 Oct 1824
        3 Regina Jacomina RAVINE b: Abt 1828 d: 18 Oct 1897
          + Casper Theodorus CROES b: 17 May 1825 d: 13 Jul 1889
            4 Jan CROES b: 11 Jan 1848 d: 2 Jan 1918
              + Abeona CROES b: 19 Oct 1851 d: 6 Oct 1926
                5 Jacobo CROES b: 18 Jan 1877 d: 9 Dec 1918
                  + Anna Elisabeth CROES b: 24 Sep 1879 d: 16 May 1924
                    6 Inovia Beltranda CROES b: 10 Oct 1904 d: 4 Aug 1979
                      + Constantino Remaclo ALDERS b: 13 Sep 1881 d: 15 Jun 1965
            4 Johannes Nicolaas CROES b: 29 Sep 1863 d: 23 Mar 1947
              + Theolinda Robustiana LAMPE b: 14 Mar 1864 d: 2 Oct 1931
                5 Maria Regina CROES b: 30 Dec 1906 d: 9 Aug 1991
                  + Ezau Albrecht HENRIQUEZ b: 13 Jan 1904 d: 14 Mar 1975
                    6 Living HENRIQUEZ
                      + Living ALDERS
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« Reply #3728 on: March 22, 2008, 11:29:29 AM »

This means that the daughter of Ezau and Marie Henriques married the son of Constantino and Inovia Alders.  Their names aren’t given because they are still alive.
Could Inovia Croes or Maria Cores be Fin’s grandmother?

·  ID: I49616985
·  Name: Living HENRIQUEZ
·  Sex: F

Father: Ezau Albrecht HENRIQUEZ b: 13 Jan 1904 in Aruba
Mother: Maria Regina CROES b: 30 Dec 1906 in Aruba

Marriage 1 Living ALDERS
Children
1.    Living ALDERS

·  ID: I49616984
·  Name: Living ALDERS
·  Sex: M

Father: Constantino Remaclo ALDERS b: 13 Sep 1881 in Kralendijk, Bonaire
Mother: Inovia Beltranda CROES b: 10 Oct 1904 in Aruba

Marriage 1 Living HENRIQUEZ
Children
1.    Living ALDERS

 
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« Reply #3729 on: March 22, 2008, 11:55:21 AM »

I have those also:

Alcazar's Revenge

Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:05 am Post subject: Van Rijn
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I do not understand the fixation on Van Rijn. The Police eliminated him as a suspect after extensive harassment. They even literally took his boat, cars and house apart.

He was brought in for questioning a couple of times, but somehow this was not brought in the limelight by the interviews on TV.

His father/family used to own the Volkswagen dealership. They might have sold part of it or completely. He known for off-the-wall behaviour.

Alcazar's Revenge

Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:24 am Post subject: Rape?
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I hear Shango, You haven't seen one piece of legal document on anything. So in that regard you should keep your opinion to yourself.

Why you haven't seen his face on TV, because he was never pointed to by the Twitty's. That is why.

It is a public secret that the casino employees pointed to him as being involved with Natalee and the group during their stay in Aruba. Even alluding to a romantic involvement with Natalee.

At the same time Beth Twitty states that Joran raped her daughter, because she was a virgin. That even if the sex was consensual it was still rape to her.

Alcazar's Revenge

Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:27 am Post subject: Going to school...
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How did Joran qualify?

He is a straight A, honor student. Kind of like Natalee, without the cheerleader bit.

Alcazar's Revenge

Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:03 am Post subject: Raids
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Raids on and visits by the Police to Van Rijn's home and his mother's were widely documented with pictures in Aruban newspapers.

Even the fact that when they busted into his house they found him crouched under the kitchen table begging not to be hurt.

On another note, this week started with newspapers full of attitudes towards everybody involved in this case.

Alcazar's Revenge

Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:18 am Post subject: Aruban Newspapers
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Diario and Bondia Aruba both posted telelens pictures of the police at his mother's house.

I believe it was in the week right after the trio's arrest.

This week started with reports of Texas Equusearch destroying nesting grounds of protected turtles. A lot of unhappy people. This is the umpteenth time they have breached their agreement with the authorities.

Alcazar's Revenge

Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:35 am Post subject: TIP
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I do not know, but there is a group of locals who have stated that they found new evidence of the week before the disappearance. They call themselves Team Investigativo Priva (TIP).

This TIP group of people are indicating that they are out to proof that Natalee's case is similar to Max Devries's. Max has been found living with friends in Brazil. Max's mother has apparently been arrested by the FBI.

There is also a possibility of a slander case against Tim Miller since he said he would make Paulus van der Sloot’s life impossible.

Joran will turn 18 this Saturday and the Police are trying to bridge these couple of days so they can move the interrogation in a new direction as soon as he loses his privileges as a minor.

Alcazar's Revenge

Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:51 am Post subject: On-line Newspapers

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You can check awe AweMainta for those TIP articles. Their counter English publication is called AM.

Yesterday there was an article stating that TJ Ward's PI license had expired some 6 years ago.

Alcazar's Revenge

Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:18 pm Post subject: Tight lipped
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Why would anybody come out? Get your face plastered over the Internet with accusations of cover-up and drugs and what not. Especially if your innocent.

It has been all over local media with the statements of the Casino employees. You are being cheated by the tabloid news of CNN and Fox.

By the way, the apparently the mobile phone grids do not place any of the trio near Savaneta. Savaneta is where Van Rijn's house is.

Jan van der Straaten left because his time was up. He should have retired long ago. He has been with the Dutch and Aruban police a combined 30 years. His retirement was very much publicized in the press and overwhelmingly the community regrets that he had to retire. It has nothing to do with the case. Since early this year it was announced.

Alcazar's Revenge

Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:29 pm Post subject: Defamation
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I hear Shango, "slander" is spoken defamation. Tim Miller's words are defamatory towards Paulus van de Sloot and tarnish his reputation. Tim Miller could be called upon to reverse his statements and apologize.

Repeatedly, showing up at somebody's home with your equipment and TV cameras could also constitute harassment.

Alcazar's Revenge

Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:36 am Post subject: Stop hearing Shango and form your own opinion...
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I see that "I hear Shango" wrote some really ignorant comments about if Arubans care or not.

Listen, boy, there is not much more that we Arubans can do. We have done everything in our power and within our scope. Even went so far as to bend jurisdiction regulations to allow FBI in. The fact that the girl can't be found is not our fault. I hope your comments are not indicative of your intelligence, because what you put on display here should embarrass you.

Tim Miller has been called in and his head straightened. You cannot threaten people. Doesn't matter who you are and what noble intentions you might have.

TJ Ward is breaking the law and he will be dealt with appropriately too. There are such thongs as immigration laws in Aruba.

As for the turtles, they are a protected species and there are signs everywhere that state the beach as being an off-limits zone. Like in the US we have laws and regulations too concerning endangered species.

So "I hear Shango", be more respectful of other country's laws, other nations customs and realize that there is a whole other world outside of the US.

By the way, Savannah of the Broom, translated in papiamento is "Sabana Basora". It's an area in Aruba.

Alcazar's Revenge

Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:19 am Post subject: Aruba held hostage
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An entire people are being held hostage here. Baseless accusations of conspiracy and what not. Very childish. Aruba has a lot more to lose than to protect the spoiled child of a macamba.

First of all, we are embarrassed that this happened at all. Violent crime is very rare and although a tourist or two might get robbed, there’s hardly any aggression directed towards tourists. Tourists that get in trouble are those that went looking for it as in getting involved with drug pushers.

What happened to Natalee is a mystery, but what I do know is that Aruba has complied with all the reasonable wishes of the Holloway/Twitty families. What Aruba cannot do is produce a Natalee for the world. We don’t know where she is and happened to her.

Three experts in interrogation will work on Joran the next couple of days. The police are looking forward for his 18th birthday. He will then lose his privileges as a minor.

Suddenly Mark Furhman is the voice of reason? A racist and perjurer?

Alcazar's Revenge

Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:44 am Post subject: Jossy and Diario
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You should take Jossy Mansur for what he is. The owner and publisher of a newspaper.

That he has his own agenda. Sure. That he is an opinionated man. Damn sure. Did you know Jossy's niece is married to the Minister of Justice. Everybody meets for drinks and BBQ.

A police pick-up truck. I have yet to hear that one. You guys make up a lot of stuff on this board. I see F-16's turn into F-14's. I see water reservoirs turn into lakes. I also see fine police people called out for being corrupt.

I am familiar with Mark Furhman's work and the books he wrote. Still a perjurer and racist. He should be the last one to call anybody names. Additionally, as a former LAPD man, he sure knows corrupt police forces. Maybe he finds Aruba attractive in that regard.
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Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:57 am Post subject: Perjury
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Some would say? Let's stick to the facts.

You are allowed to say whatever you want when you are being interrogated. You might even choose to Please be quiet.

You can only commit perjury under oath. Joran and the brothers have not been in a court of law yet.

Alcazar's Revenge

Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:55 am Post subject: Matutino Diario
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My opinion is that Mr. Mansur is enjoying his moment in the sun a little bit too much.

However, he has been known to be a very well-informed man in all levels of Aruban society. Everybody, tells him everything. Confidential documents magically appear in the Diario's mailbox everyday.

Alcazar's Revenge

Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:24 pm Post subject: Who? Me?
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Karen, are you under the impression that I am unaware?

Alcazar's Revenge

Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:51 pm Post subject: Get the name right?
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It is the result of her taking all parts of her to wherever it is that she went to. There's as much evidence from day one as there is today.

I guess Aruba Search & Rescue, The Dutch Marines, 1500 Gov't Employees, Texas Equusearch, F-16's, FBI, Miami Dade Police, TJ Ward and whoever is next in line couldn't find her. They are all incompetent to me, because daisysistah of them have a clue. They have all performed poorly.

Dukkha, my friends, Dukkha...
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Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 3:13 pm Post subject: Good to see you Chang!
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The landfill was just another dead-end. Junior, que paso hermano? "Un cheep amariyo?" This guy can't speak his own language. Hopi kens mes.

Everybody in Aruba is scared to wear sneakers these days. So the sneaker got stuck in the mud. Do we need to have a National Sneaker Search day? Do the Marines have experience in sneaker search? Arubans are generally incompetent. They can't even find a sneaker.

The sneaker is being passed around from house to house. Very "The Da Vinci Code"-ian. The Holy Grail Sneaker. Damn...a sneaker-conspiracy in which ALL Arubans are hiding "something". Anything. OK...everything.

Now, if Greta could just be more like Sophie. People in Aruba are Dutch, but they call themselves Arubans. Their official language is Dutch, but they speak to each other in Papiamento. Although, they are all Arubans they don't fit a general description. Sounds a like a secret society.

Maybe, they take young virgins in secret, barbaric rituals. Some of these rituals are known to involve colorful lights, throbbing music and copious amounts of mind-altering icy tropical beverages. Some ingredients are even known by numerical codes like “151”.

The repercussions for this secret society of around 90,000 members, who suspiciously all live together on the same tiny island, will be dire. If this case is not solved the Americans will boycott and destroy their own established businesses on the island. Just under 2 Billion.

With some more thought I can really work this one out.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:48 am Post subject: El que corta la oreja es un santo con fallas...
Toma las fechas por un solo nombre. Toma mis palabras por lo que son. Mira que no falta mucho.

The one that cuts the ear is santo with faults...

(The one that cuts the ear is a saint with faults... Take the dates by a single name. Take my words for what they are. Look at that which is missing the least.)
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 12:06 pm Post subject: What about Malchus' ear?


Observando...pero manteniendo distancia.

Muchos quieren castigar a la forma. Buscando en donde no deben. No paga saber demaciado. El piloto de Jupiter AM-13 se consumió. Tal como la forma humana del original.

Te hable de los patos de pecho negro. Ve y busca. Antes de los mediados de 31 B.C. - 14 A.D. veras que es verdad.

(Observing... but maintaining distance.
Many want to punish the form. Looking in places they shouldn’t. It does not pay to know too much. The pilot of Jupiter AM-13 was consumed. Just like the human form of the original one.
It speaks to you of the ducks of black chest. It sees and it looks for. Before the ides of 31 B.C. - 14 A.D. you will all see that it is the truth.)
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 12:32 pm Post subject: Unmasked the god with the misspelled name is...

My city is destroyed, my house is wrecked, my children have been taken captive.

I have been forced to leave .... a fugitive. Even I escape not from thy hand.

Et tu, Guillermin?
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Alcazar's Revenge
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:10 pm Post subject: For he is a saint with fault to cut off Malchus' ear...

Que bueno es el detective "mejor amigo" que no sabe ni leer.

El piloto del Jupiter AM-13, el sabe quien es el santo con la nombre equivocada.

Les engaño a todos. Ha ha ha! Duizend bommen en granaten!!!

(How good is the detective “best friend” that does not know nor read. The pilot of the Jupiter AM-13, he knows who is the saint with the mistaken name. He decieved you all. ha ha ha! Thousand bombs and grenades!!!)
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Gordo Enmisión
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 3:35 pm Post subject: His mind is not for rent to any god or government...

The Simian only relays. Never claimed to know where Eurydice may lay.

The reporting detective suits you well. You latino speaking knickerbockers wearing fool. The Simian hopes you are not an embarrassement to your fellow Ladino people. Son of the Jaguar you are, forget not.

The Simian does know the frontpage history of the becoming of the god with the misspelled name. Look for the "Dutch in Aruba". A lie perpetuated too long.

Always engaging most of you are. Again the form must be consumed.

Goodbye, Nouvelle Fille. Tu est ma meilleur amie.
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Alcazar's Revenge
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 4:18 pm Post subject: San Theodoros

Tal vez los "frontpagers" se acuerden de quien hacía postings con el nombre "Dutch In Aruba".

El es quien buscan. Veran que el les ha tomado el pelo por mucho tiempo ya.

Que pena...

(Perhaps "frontpagers" remember who made postings with the name "Dutch In Aruba".
It is the one who they look for. You will all see that he has taken you by the hair for a long time already.
What a pity... )
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Alcazar's Revenge
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 4:35 pm Post subject: Grammar Nazi

Bueno, chiquita dame un chance. Verán...como debe ser.

(Fine, little one give me a chance. They will see... as it must be)
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Alcazar's Revenge
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 4:47 pm Post subject: Busquen por donde en los viejos frontpagers...

Les estoy diciendo quien es ese dios que les intriga tanto y se pasan tratando de averiguar quien soy yo.

(Look for by where in old frontpagers... I am telling you who is that God that intrigues you so much to them and they go trying to find out who I am.)
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Alcazar's Revenge
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:03 pm Post subject: Choose sides...

It's helpful to do so. It avoids embarrassment.

The Shivas will be pinched again. Reset your clocks as it may happen before the ides of August.

Do not underestimate the Babylonians. That has been your mistake all along. The words exchanged with the Yellowhammer will haunt Cain. The question is if he will be Abel to tell the truth.

Remember that the block and the hammer are not owned by the Babylonians. Et tu, De Wit?

The whisperer is back on the line. Weak,...but still hungry. Never broken. In the Nemean sense.

"Death to Tapioca!"
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Alcazar's Revenge
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:08 pm Post subject: "Mejor Amigo" tiene la cabeza dura... ( "bestbuddy" has a hard head...)

The Simian has never claimed to know where Eurydice may lay.

He is just a relayer of information for the benefit of his friends like "Nouvelle Fille" and the "Parentless One".
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dietser is a white-supremacy word for a person who is a member of a minority. It also can refer to a neo-nazi or skinhead, I believe.
Mithra is a contract
pantoufle de vair "translates from French as "Squirrel fur slipper"
(I need that clarified a bit further)." "A pantoufle de vair is a "Cinderella slipper"."
16.04 - "Ok so Joran lost a size-14 soccer shoe."
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« Reply #3730 on: March 22, 2008, 12:20:19 PM »

I think we need to find some answers to these specifc clues from Fin.  The rest may then fall into place.

Do names through genealogy histories always stay the same?

The ex-monkey is not a Crows, but is related to Crows.

Steve Crows is not the ex-monkey, but maybe related to one.

Shake the Solagnier + genaruba and an ex-monkey will fall out of the tree.

Rufo cannot find a razor, think he could type?


I did notice in the previous post that Mansur's niece was married to the Minister of Justice - Rudy Croes?  Interesting. Mansur was also involved in the BAT fiasco with Alex Solangier.  I haven't found the name of an ex-monkey in the ancestral data that I found.
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« Reply #3731 on: March 22, 2008, 12:52:40 PM »

This means that the daughter of Ezau and Marie Henriques married the son of Constantino and Inovia Alders.  Their names aren’t given because they are still alive.
Could Inovia Croes or Maria Cores be Fin’s grandmother?

·  ID: I49616985
·  Name: Living HENRIQUEZ
·  Sex: F

Father: Ezau Albrecht HENRIQUEZ b: 13 Jan 1904 in Aruba
Mother: Maria Regina CROES b: 30 Dec 1906 in Aruba

Marriage 1 Living ALDERS
Children
1.    Living ALDERS

·  ID: I49616984
·  Name: Living ALDERS
·  Sex: M

Father: Constantino Remaclo ALDERS b: 13 Sep 1881 in Kralendijk, Bonaire
Mother: Inovia Beltranda CROES b: 10 Oct 1904 in Aruba

Marriage 1 Living HENRIQUEZ
Children
1.    Living ALDERS

 


So are we saying that Arubagirl is actually Fin?  Or that Arubagirl is really Simian regardless of any known info and she gladly implicated her own relatives in this case?      I know the info on AG as Simian...if it is true then AG as Simian was saying that Joran and K2 are not guilty and that the 5th suspect...which in this case is Steve Croes...would be responsible for Natalee's death.  Steve Croes did not have to provide the alibi...he was the alibi.  I must be reading this all wrong, because I am trying to understand it.  OR are we saying that Arubagirl obtained all her info from her cousin that was in ALE and said cousin claims that Steve Croes is the 5th suspect?
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« Reply #3732 on: March 22, 2008, 01:04:47 PM »

Lala's in one of the Alcazar revenge posts there is this:

(How good is the detective “best friend” that does not know nor read. The pilot of the Jupiter AM-13, he knows who is the saint with the mistaken name. He decieved you all. ha ha ha! Thousand bombs and grenades!!!)


Jupiter AM-13 was launched in december 58 on board was Gordo a South American squirrel monkey


In what you posted there are 2 posts by a certain Gordo.

Are there any more posts by "gordo" you know of?
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« Reply #3733 on: March 22, 2008, 02:07:53 PM »

Finbars first post was:

    
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
« Reply #2459 on: February 21, 2008, 03:23:13 PM »
   
Why not just ask arubagirl who Simian is. I certain that she could fill in the blanks. Wink


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« Reply #3734 on: March 22, 2008, 02:09:30 PM »

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:16 pm
He (PVDS) had to be let go
Paulus' duties were suspended on or about 6/17/05.
He (PVDS) had been brought in for questioning that day

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:53 pm
DirtyHand is the key
He walks with the elders
He walks in all houses
And he walked with the fallen elder
he was the hidden card that was played
now if he sings, babylon will fall on the arawak nation
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« Reply #3735 on: March 22, 2008, 02:54:07 PM »

Lala's in one of the Alcazar revenge posts there is this:

(How good is the detective “best friend” that does not know nor read. The pilot of the Jupiter AM-13, he knows who is the saint with the mistaken name. He decieved you all. ha ha ha! Thousand bombs and grenades!!!)


Jupiter AM-13 was launched in december 58 on board was Gordo a South American squirrel monkey


In what you posted there are 2 posts by a certain Gordo.

Are there any more posts by "gordo" you know of?

Yes.  Neither Alcazar or Gordo was posted at SM.  They were RWV posts. 

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« Reply #3736 on: March 22, 2008, 02:54:45 PM »

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:16 pm
He (PVDS) had to be let go
Paulus' duties were suspended on or about 6/17/05.
He (PVDS) had been brought in for questioning that day


Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:53 pm
DirtyHand is the key
He walks with the elders
He walks in all houses
And he walked with the fallen elder
he was the hidden card that was played
now if he sings, babylon will fall on the arawak nation
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« Reply #3737 on: March 22, 2008, 02:57:00 PM »

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:16 pm
He (PVDS) had to be let go
Paulus' duties were suspended on or about 6/17/05.
He (PVDS) had been brought in for questioning that day


Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:53 pm
DirtyHand is the key
He walks with the elders
He walks in all houses
And he walked with the fallen elder
he was the hidden card that was played
now if he sings, babylon will fall on the arawak nation



Well poop!  Sorry, I hit post before I was finished. LOL  The UNDERLINED post is NOT....I repeat...NOT part of the original Simian posts.  It was part of a conversation at another website.  It has nothing to do with that Simian post...I have been saying this for days now. It should never be quoted in that comment by Simian.
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« Reply #3738 on: March 22, 2008, 03:08:59 PM »

Finbars first post was:

    
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
« Reply #2459 on: February 21, 2008, 03:23:13 PM »
   
Why not just ask arubagirl who Simian is. I certain that she could fill in the blanks. Wink


Fin


Then if Finbar is AG why not just say so??  I am tired of the cloak and dagger stuff.  If AG is Simian then just say so and tell us who is the 5th suspect.  Then tell me about the party and the people that provided the alibi...we have lots of other things that we could be doing if this was out of the way.  I have no problem with the truth....just seems that if I were Simian and after all this time having seen the crap said that are wrong I would have enough courage to step out of my little corner of the world and help this family out and prove that what I say is true...otherwise it's a coward's way to communicate.  Same with Shango.  I have never said they were right or knew diddly squat about what happened...but if they did and one of them is AG...then she is complicit in the cover up as far as I am concerned and should have to account for what she did. AG has denied she is Simian or knows who Simian is.  Another lie? I don't know.  Shango is no better...regardless of who it is they allowed the truth to be hidden to the point that it has ruined an entire island.  They should be held accountable. MOO
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« Reply #3739 on: March 22, 2008, 03:11:26 PM »

Gordon Enmision posts:


Joined: 31 Jul 2005
Posts: 2 Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:21 am Post subject: ...and the yellowhammer has flown.
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The god with the misspelled name will not fulfill his Mithra. A copycat he was. Not more
can be said.
Soon the dirty waters shall be made of salt and rain again. The clouds keep rolling.

Three Dietsers will try. A swollen tongue will not let anyone talk. His pantoufle de vair
much less so.
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Gordo Enmisión

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Posts: 2 Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:07 pm Post subject: Veritas semper en agaria
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The incident at the Savannah of the Broom is not for the lost yellowhammer. The Quisqueya
did that for herself.

Do not wag. Can the dogs are soaked in dirty water drag 16.04? Not if there is no weight.

Choose sides now. Broken promises. So Damocles seems to think he can get confortable?
Swift and efficient is the karma.

Greased floors of the palace halls. Many passageways. A shadow of a men that will never
stand in them again.
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Gordo Enmisión

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Posts: 3 Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 5:02 pm Post subject: Austen's masterwork
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The words combines cause all too much grief. Generalizations. Pain.

Just as all the Arawaks are thrown into a burning stake by fingerpointers. Three fingers
point back at the gringos.

Pax Romana. Gratitude and humbleness go a long way to erase imperial howls.
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Gordo Enmisión

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Posts: 4 Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 5:17 pm Post subject: Shango is 8-5
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On a mission. The god with the misspelled name is no more. The new form knows this.

The god with the misspelled name is two-fold being with too many minutes in his hour.
Idle hands. Idle thoughts.

Childish metaphors more akeen to a sempoa-handler than a self-respecting wordsmith.

Goodness, thank you. His mind is elsewhere.
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Gordo Enmisión

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Posts: 5 Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:11 am Post subject: Party like it's...
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The Tracy has a trench coat that died. Access long denied. A worthless piece of paper
kept in a wallet that is growing fatter.

Funny, how he only speaks in his own language. Maybe the Yellowhammer should look for
new branches to perch on.

Cowboys are swinging with mud that will pretty soon stick to their own faces. Do they
think their shovels are hammers? Soon they will have neither.
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Gordo Enmisión

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Posts: 7 Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:09 pm Post subject: That Libanese Family...
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They have nothing to do with the Yellowhammer case.

Fingerpointers, there are three fingers pointing back at the gringos.
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Gordo Enmisión

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Posts: 7 Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:11 pm Post subject: It's a fish...
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The Simian knows what a barbishi is.
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Gordo Enmisión

Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 3:36 pm Post subject: Get the name right...
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Gratitude is the begging bowl's best advertisement. The Simian is not one to gloat.
Time is of essence. Always.

The grinding of teeth by Babylonians makes all so much more difficult.

All the slippery afternoon delight Tracy's work couldn't figure that Eurydice would not
rise.

The human form was consumed for sign language and free tickets in rockets are much more
worthwhile.
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Gordo Enmisión

Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 3:44 pm Post subject: His mind is not for rent...
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The Simian is not the same as the god with misspelled name.

Just as a macamba is not a macumba.

You have desecrated the Merian form and now you are finishing off the Simian.
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Gordo Enmisión

Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 12:32 pm Post subject: Unmasked the god with
the misspelled name is...
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My city is destroyed, my house is wrecked, my children have been taken captive.

I have been forced to leave .... a fugitive. Even I escape not from thy hand.
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Gordo Enmisión

Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 12:44 pm Post subject: How can a fish be a
friendly foreigner?
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Redeemed is the house of the Babylon. For it is grander than the palace itself. The robed
ones have walked the line too many times. Thin as it may well be.

Pink mist for what used to be. Address with respect. Question the whisperer you must not.

A "Dietser in Aruba" has twisted the ears and eyes of many. Never of the Simian.
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Gordo Enmisión

Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 3:35 pm Post subject: His mind is not for
rent to any god or government...
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The Simian only relays. Never claimed to know where Eurydice may lay.

The reporting detective suits you well. You latino speaking knickerbockers wearing fool.
The Simian hopes you are not an embarrassement to your fellow Ladino people. Son of the
Jaguar you are, forget not.

The Simian does know the frontpage history of the becoming of the god with the misspelled
name. Look for the "Dutch in Aruba". A lie perpetuated too long.

Always engaging most of you are. Again the form must be consumed.

Goodbye, Nouvelle Fille. Tu est ma meilleur amie.
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