Lively Case Discussion #671 8/1 - 8/2/2007

[oldfart]

Nancy Grace is already looking at potential liability for the bridge collapse.  One person said no structural work was being done and it was primarily a re-surfacing job.  It will be interesting to see what the forensic engineers learn about this bridge.

NG is always inappropriate. 

Unless you need some IPECAC     JMO of course

[GreatOwl]

don't know about lucky, but I do feel very blessed.   All my kids live within a half hours drive.  I have a party on Saturday to go to.  Always some get together with the kids.  This  is good because I have no other relatives alive except for my kids and grandchildren.

[Tamikosmom]

Freddy Maduro, Aruba Prison Warden
'Countdown with Keith Olbermann'
August 25, 2005

Our correspondent in Aruba and at the center of this case is Michelle Kosinski. 

Good evening, Michelle.

MICHELLE KOSINSKI, NBC CORRESPONDENT:  Hi, Amy.  That’s right.  NBC is not showing that brief talk we had with Joran Van Der Sloot behind bars, because his attorneys took us to court here on the island, and a judge ruled that we should not air that video, based on Joran Van Der Sloot’s privacy rights.  And the judge did say in the first few words of his ruling that he did not question our integrity.  And NBC believes that we do have a right to air that interview, but we are abiding with the judge’s decision. 

We should also point out that, in court, Joran Van Der Sloot admitted that he saw our camera, that he never tried to stop us from talking to him, even though he said he knew that we were reporters.  He chose to answer our questions.  Now, despite the judge’s ruling, we can show you this, a rare inside look at the jail where he’s been now for three months.  (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

KOSINSKI (voice-over):  The Aruba director of prisons invited NBC News to tour the jail where suspect Joran Van Der Sloot has been locked up for nearly three months.  The director allowed us to videotape as he showed us around in plain sight. 

This is where he exercises two hours a day.  This is his cell block.  The director offered to take us to the juvenile ward.  And we found ourselves face to face with Joran Van Der Sloot.  Again, we’re not showing you those pictures.  We found him sitting quietly, reading a book with his feet up in the small and smelly cell he shares with two other inmates.  He told us politely he was doing fine and could not talk about his case.  The prison director, Fred Maduro, used to work with Van Der Sloot’s father and knew Joran as a boy. 

(on camera):  Is it strange to see him in this environment?

FREDDY MADURO, ARUBA PRISON WARDEN:  Yes, strange in a way, in another way, not, because of his temperament.  When he doesn’t get his way, he gets very angry.  I know that before, that already he was a very angry person.  KOSINSKI:  And did you see some of his temper here in prison?  MADURO:  In beginning, yes, with the policemen.  But then, afterwards, the policemen really rough him up. 

KOSINSKI (voice-over):  And he says Van Der Sloot got into a fight with another inmate. 

MADURO:  and he kicked a guy, and then he kept kicking in the same place.  So, Joran’s pretty big.  So, but the guy is small, but smaller than he is.  But the guy (INAUDIBLE) hit him in the eye.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE:  Joran, were you beat up in prison?

MADURO:  Because general big, but this other streetfighter-the other guy is a streetfighter.  It makes a difference. 

KOSINSKI:  Van Der Sloot must get up at 6:00 a.m., but spends most of his day outside his cell, watching TV, playing games, exercising.  He can stay up until midnight, 1:00 on weekends.  He has a TV in his cell.  The warden says his parents have asked for more visiting time.

MADURO:  No, not getting no extra visiting time. 

KOSINSKI (on camera):  How has he been now, since he’s been here for a couple weeks? 

MADURO:  Now he’s normal.  He’s been normal now.  He has no problems with no one.  He has incorporated himself into the system.  (END VIDEOTAPE)

KOSINSKI:  Again, we did have permission to be there and to videotape. 

And a judge acknowledged that we did have the authority to be there. 

But, tonight, the prison director has been suspended from his job.  And he is standing up for his actions.  This is a man who has told us that he loves his job, and he believes that people should see things as they are and what the conditions are in the jail.  There’s also been some misconceptions out there, that we were just going to take this video and then throw it out on the airwaves.  Well, that’s not the case.  We always have that discussion with our legal team, amongst ourselves, and we didn’t even have time to have a start to that discussion before Van Der Sloot’s attorneys were calling us and calling us into court-Amy.

ROBACH:  Now, Michelle, we can’t see the video, but can you tell us a little more about your interaction, your conversation with Joran Van Der Sloot? 

KOSINSKI:  It was brief. 

We approached his jail cell, and he was sitting there in a chair with his feet propped up.  He was reading from a paperback book, and he looked up at us several times.  And when we got close to him, he looked at us and he talked to us.  He was very polite, very cordial.  In fact, all of our questions, he answered.  But they were very brief.

We basically asked him, how are you doing in there?  Are you OK there?  Are things all right for you here?  He said yes, yes, I’m fine.  Our producer also talked to him about a letter that he had written to his mother, some other things, connections that they had had.  And he was very polite the entire time.  He never tried to hide or anything like that.

ROBACH:  Michelle Kosinski, reporting live for us from Aruba-thanks, Michelle. 

[BTgirl]

Is this the week that Tiger is off camping or something?

I miss getting to translate Tiger into English.

[KarmaRoundUp]

Brought this over:



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Quote from: KarmaRoundUp on Today at 08:12:40 PM

Sorry for all the questions but who is Mark Purcell?Does he live on aruba?I ran into a article from aruba and that name was on it.


MIP6 (MARK PURCELL) and REALITY - are they part of the disinformation team?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1896.0

I forgot who posted it but:
I read that thread before and don't know why his name was not familar to me.Anyway,what does he do on aruba or should I put this in the thread above?

[SunFreak2]

KLAAS - please go take a look at how short it is cutting it off.  I was going to do it in 3 or 4 sections but ........Please advise.

[klaasend]

Is this the week that Tiger is off camping or something?

I miss getting to translate Tiger into English.

Yes - he is gone this week I beleive.

[GreatOwl]

Is this the week that Tiger is off camping or something?

I miss getting to translate Tiger into English.

easier than scandi nor

[Tibrogargan]

Hello Monkeys.
Welcome to all the new monkeys when they find their way in here. 
I see the new monkeys now get a sock monkey?  I wonder if  LilPuma needs help making up all the welcome fruit baskets.

My pages are loading super fast today - they sped up late yesterday as I posted.

That bridge collapse is horrific.  Prayers for all affected, and the rescue service persons.
Brings back bad memories of when our Hobart bridge collapsed but that was hit by a tanker than was off course because the captain was sozzled.

Now to be ON TOPIC - how accurate is the timeline by Write Now in the 2005 Archives?
On 15 June they list 2 vehicles taken from the Sloots  as being Blue SUV and Red Jeep.  It may not be correct but that could be where the blue vehicle came from that masny remember.

[SunFreak2]

Is this the week that Tiger is off camping or something?

I miss getting to translate Tiger into English.

MsMarple & I got to meet Tiger last weekend! He's a very nice kitty/monkey.

[BTgirl]

Is this the week that Tiger is off camping or something?

I miss getting to translate Tiger into English.

MsMarple & I got to meet Tiger last weekend! He's a very nice kitty/monkey.

I do wish I could have joined you, but I was up at 35,000 feet about that time. 

[robots]

Present.. 

 Robots...  you are slacking  ..     Please dont make me have to smoke the cigars I have thought of you and Wrecks now for how long?       I will puke bigtime.. 

hi angie
the DUTCH will get em...

they could have closed it WEEKS AGO...they have not

BUILDING THE CASE......simple as huckleberry pie

[klaasend]

Is this the week that Tiger is off camping or something?

I miss getting to translate Tiger into English.

MsMarple & I got to meet Tiger last weekend! He's a very nice kitty/monkey.

You did??  How cool!

[klaasend]

Is this the week that Tiger is off camping or something?

I miss getting to translate Tiger into English.

easier than scandi nor

Speaking of Scandi-Nor I can't wait until we get those archives back, LOL.  The night Scandi-Nor was posting was a hoot! 

[klaasend]

DANA PRETZER IS ON NOW!

www.scaredmonkeys.com/radio

[Tamikosmom]

Nancy Grace is already looking at potential liability for the bridge collapse.  One person said no structural work was being done and it was primarily a re-surfacing job.  It will be interesting to see what the forensic engineers learn about this bridge.

NG is always inappropriate. 

Until the Aruban people collectively protested CNN for bias coverage in regards to the Natalee Holloway case ... Nancy Grace always gave a supportive platform for the family of Natalee, Jossy Mansur and others.  If it had not been for Nancy Grace and the transcripts of the  interviews ... much of the truth regarding the corrupt investigation that has been denying justice to an 18 year old American citizen who went missing on Aruban soil under suspicious circumstances would never have been revealed.

Janet

Janet

[Lala'sMom]

Hello Monkeys.
Welcome to all the new monkeys when they find their way in here. 
I see the new monkeys now get a sock monkey?  I wonder if  LilPuma needs help making up all the welcome fruit baskets.

My pages are loading super fast today - they sped up late yesterday as I posted.

That bridge collapse is horrific.  Prayers for all affected, and the rescue service persons.
Brings back bad memories of when our Hobart bridge collapsed but that was hit by a tanker than was off course because the captain was sozzled.

Now to be ON TOPIC - how accurate is the timeline by Write Now in the 2005 Archives?
On 15 June they list 2 vehicles taken from the Sloots  as being Blue SUV and Red Jeep.  It may not be correct but that could be where the blue vehicle came from that masny remember.

I saw that too.  Blue SUV could be a blue van when translated.

[oldfart]

Ok...

AuntieM   did not make the cage change...
Mrs. Red did not answer abourt prior AVI....

Do not know AuntieM but  I'm going for it...
 "I want to be beautiful and sexy like Mrs. Red  or cute and sweet, like, dang can't remember her name.."

Besides NO ONE has to use it...
And it will have to be resized  (I think)

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Is this the week that Tiger is off camping or something?

I miss getting to translate Tiger into English.

easier than scandi nor

  ROFL  Mr Owl   

[klaasend]

Posted by Lazlo at RU:

Decision about prosecution expected in fall.

Results of the investigation and searches are in hands of and now examined by KPA.
Since KPA is om summer recess this examining cannot take place in full force, besides that the material that needs to be studied is so much that to go over everything in combination with results of searches any decision not to be expected earlier then fall.
(if any since it is possible that it will be concluded more investigation needed and performed).