Lively Case Discussion #673 8/3 - 8/5/2007

[bleachedblack]

UN TAL JEFFREY ARMA CU MACHETE RIBA DAK NA TANKI LEENDERT
ORANJESTAD (AAN): Na dos ocacion a señala un tipo bisti full na cora den ta circula den bario di Tanki Leendert cu intencionnan menos bon.

Marduga segun e relato policial ta menciona presencia di polis a worde rekeri na un cas di famia na Tanki Leendert. E informe ricibi pa central di polis ta indica cu a señala un homber cu machete den su man riba dak di cas.

http://www.diario-aruba.com/2007/8/4/
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Can't really make out this article , anyone have a pap translator handy?

[wreck]

Catching up --- refrigerated condiments if sealed and refrigerated aren't gonna kill ya. "Shelf-life" refers to their "quality" of taste primarily. Frozen food varies by product -- but "shelf-life" refers mostly to freezer burn susceptibility. After a period of time -- products tend to go bland -- but they're not gonna hurt you. Use the "smell" test. That said, if you don't personally feel comfortable with something -- then don't use it. "Best by dates" are primarily there to scare you into re-buying more of their products. (I've been in the food business for years.) (**disclaimer --- I am basing this on items you use at home where you KNOW the products "history" --ie. how long it sat out unrefrigerated before you put it back in the fridge!)

[igsigs]

STOM   

Good to see you. Have you been following the case? The cold-case (KLPD) team? Do you see any type of resolution coming? TIA.

[Nut44x4]

UN TAL JEFFREY ARMA CU MACHETE RIBA DAK NA TANKI LEENDERT
ORANJESTAD (AAN): Na dos ocacion a señala un tipo bisti full na cora den ta circula den bario di Tanki Leendert cu intencionnan menos bon.

Marduga segun e relato policial ta menciona presencia di polis a worde rekeri na un cas di famia na Tanki Leendert. E informe ricibi pa central di polis ta indica cu a señala un homber cu machete den su man riba dak di cas.

http://www.diario-aruba.com/2007/8/4/
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Can't really make out this article , anyone have a pap translator handy?

Some dude named Jeffrey w/ a machete in his hand on top of a roof...
one such jeffrey arm cu machete on roof at tanki leendert oranjestad (aan): at two ocacion owing to señala one type dress full at cora in is circula in district of tanki leendert cu intencionnan less good. marduga according the relato policial is menciona presencia of police owing to worde rekeri at one cas of family at tanki leendert. the informe ricibi for central of police is indica cu owing to señala one man cu machete in his hand on roof of cas. come across

[sirensong]

The FBI was at his home at night, but he wasn't there. His father phoned as to where he was, Joran said in the Radisson Casino. He told that after the phone call he was called by Deepak and that Deepak picked him
up a few minutes later. They drove to Jorans house. The FBI and family of
the girl were at his home.


The above was from the translation of Joran's book.  Weren't they together when Paulus called?  Now all of sudden Deepak called and picked him up?

Good Afternoon all you monkeys!  I get so upset reading Joran BS, knowing the police know everything and have done nothing.  Lying POS.  And they know he did it.  I believe the casino owners, part of ATA, have too much power.  In reading Shango's posts, I think he was trying to simply tell us the drug lords, casino owners, prostitute providers, porn movie makers, drug dealers, didn't want the truth known, and every one was either paid off or given new jobs (like Dompig).   It was all about keeping secrets secret.  And if this news got out, (what really happened to Natalee) there would be no more tourists, and too mush attention from law enforcement from the US and countries trying to stop this crap.   I think all Joran's friends families felt threatened, not be ALE, but by the dark side that runs the island.  Unfortunately,  I don't think the KLPD is going to come up with anything either, I believe the Hague has dark siders in there too.  I was reading a thread on Scrux that talks about the higher ups and sex with underage kids going on. 

[San]

The FBI was at his home at night, but he wasn't there. His father phoned as to where he was, Joran said in the Radisson Casino. He told that after the phone call he was called by Deepak and that Deepak picked him
up a few minutes later. They drove to Jorans house. The FBI and family of
the girl were at his home.


The above was from the translation of Joran's book.  Weren't they together when Paulus called?  Now all of sudden Deepak called and picked him up?

Good Afternoon all you monkeys!  I get so upset reading Joran BS, knowing the police know everything and have done nothing.  Lying POS.  And they know he did it.  I believe the casino owners, part of ATA, have too much power.  In reading Shango's posts, I think he was trying to simply tell us the drug lords, casino owners, prostitute providers, porn movie makers, drug dealers, didn't want the truth known, and every one was either paid off or given new jobs (like Dompig).   It was all about keeping secrets secret.  And if this news got out, (what really happened to Natalee) there would be no more tourists, and too mush attention from law enforcement from the US and countries trying to stop this crap.   I think all Joran's friends families felt threatened, not be ALE, but by the dark side that runs the island.  Unfortunately,  I don't think the KLPD is going to come up with anything either, I believe the Hague has dark siders in there too.  I was reading a thread on Scrux that talks about the higher ups and sex with underage kids going on. 

I agree sirensong.  The only problem I had with Joran saying he called Deepak is that I believe they are all at the Sloot home and this is why it took Paulus a long time to answer the door.  No one takes that long to answer the door and I don't care how heavy of a sleeper you are.  If someone is at my door I just up right away to see what is going on.

[oldfart]

The FBI was at his home at night, but he wasn't there. His father phoned as to where he was, Joran said in the Radisson Casino. He told that after the phone call he was called by Deepak and that Deepak picked him
up a few minutes later. They drove to Jorans house. The FBI and family of
the girl were at his home.


The above was from the translation of Joran's book.  Weren't they together when Paulus called?  Now all of sudden Deepak called and picked him up?

Good Afternoon all you monkeys!  I get so upset reading Joran BS, knowing the police know everything and have done nothing.  Lying POS.  And they know he did it.  I believe the casino owners, part of ATA, have too much power.  In reading Shango's posts, I think he was trying to simply tell us the drug lords, casino owners, prostitute providers, porn movie makers, drug dealers, didn't want the truth known, and every one was either paid off or given new jobs (like Dompig).   It was all about keeping secrets secret.  And if this news got out, (what really happened to Natalee) there would be no more tourists, and too mush attention from law enforcement from the US and countries trying to stop this crap.   I think all Joran's friends families felt threatened, not be ALE, but by the dark side that runs the island.  Unfortunately,  I don't think the KLPD is going to come up with anything either, I believe the Hague has dark siders in there too.  I was reading a thread on Scrux that talks about the higher ups and sex with underage kids going on. 

sirensong
Yup..  we have to hope the KLPD  is going to look at the long run....
Face facts... semi-clean things up 

[Tamikosmom]

The FBI was at his home at night, but he wasn't there. His father phoned as to where he was, Joran said in the Radisson Casino. He told that after the phone call he was called by Deepak and that Deepak picked him up a few minutes later. They drove to Jorans house. The FBI and family of he girl were at his home.


The above was from the translation of Joran's book.  Weren't they together when Paulus called?  Now all of sudden Deepak called and picked him up?

<snipped>

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According to Deepak and Joran's declarations:

1.  Deepak and Joran were together when Paulus called to inform Joran that the Twitty group were at their residence.

2.  When Deepak and Joran arrived at the VDS residence ... NOBODY was there.

Janet



Deepak Kalpoe
Suspect Statement
June 11, 2005

Before I finished working, I had called him again. He said that at that time he was in the casino of the “Radisson Hotel”. I said that I would come to where he was.

Satish came and picked me up from work at approximately 23:10 hours at my place of work. I had brought Satish home because he had school the following day and also because my mother had been angry because we had stayed out late that day and that Satish hadn't gone to school. I then went to the “Radisson Hotel”. When I arrived there I met up with Joran, Guido and Andre. Joran was playing a poker tournament. I zat and watched. Joran was pretty inebriated that evening. We stayed there and played for about 2 hours after I arrived. I had arrived there at approximately 00;00 hours. At some point there was an altercation between a tourist and Joran. The tourist was of the opinion that we were helping Joran. We said to Joran that it was better if we would leave. We then left. Guido went away to take Andre home and me and Joran went to the “Wyndham” hotel11. I wanted to play blackjack. When we arrived at the “Wyndham” during parking Joran received a telephone call on his mobile. He spoke to a person. I heard him speak the name Paul. I assumed he was talking to his father.  I assumed he was talking to his father. Because I know his father's name is Paul. After the conversation Joran said to me that it had been his father calling and that he told him that there was police at their house and that it was about the girl that we had been out with the previous night.

<snipped>

When we arrived at Joran's house nobody was there.


Joran van der Sloot
Suspect Statement
June 14, 2005

At approximately 02.00 am I stopped playing. I had "cashed out" my chips. Deepak wanted to go and play black jack. I didn't know why but he wanted to go to the Wyndham Casino. According to him he had no luck at the Radisson Casino. At approximately 02.30 am, Deepak and myself were walking to his car. He was there in his Honda Civic. The car was parked in the parking lot of the Radisson Hotel. Guido left to take Andre home.

We drove towards the Wyndham Casino. When we were just about to get out of the car, my father called. My father then told me that the police were at my house and that they were looking for a missing girl. I had then told my father that we would be coming to the house.

<snipped>

At approximately 03.00 am Deepak and myself arrived home in his Honda Civic. When we arrived there we could see no-one was there so I called my dad.

[Tamikosmom]

Klaas ... I sent you an email.

Janet

[truthseeker2]

Joran van der Sloot
Suspect Statement
June 14, 2005

At approximately 02.00 am I stopped playing. I had "cashed out" my chips. Deepak wanted to go and play black jack. I didn't know why but he wanted to go to the Wyndham Casino. According to him he had no luck at the Radisson Casino. At approximately 02.30 am, Deepak and myself were walking to his car. He was there in his Honda Civic. The car was parked in the parking lot of the Radisson Hotel. Guido left to take Andre home.

We drove towards the Wyndham Casino. When we were just about to get out of the car, my father called. My father then told me that the police were at my house and that they were looking for a missing girl. I had then told my father that we would be coming to the house.

<snipped>

At approximately 03.00 am Deepak and myself arrived home in his Honda Civic. When we arrived there we could see no-one was there so I called my dad.

I think Joran DOES know why.  I thought this was strange that he says he doesn't know why, but then says it's because Deepak is not lucky at the Radisson.

[klaasend]

Klaas ... I sent you an email.

Janet

Ok..I'll check right now

[klaasend]

Klaas ... I sent you an email.

Janet

Ok..I'll check right now

Did I do it right? 

[Tamikosmom]

Klaas ... I sent you an email.

Janet

Ok..I'll check right now

Did I do it right? 

Nope!  Not completely.   

You move my intro but did not cut it from the original spot.

Thanks Klaas

Janet

[klaasend]

Klaas ... I sent you an email.

Janet

Ok..I'll check right now

Did I do it right? 

Nope!  Not completely.   

You move my intro but did not cut it from the original spot.

Thanks Klaas

Janet

Better?

[Buckeye]

Dugga

Could we get one of those clocks (like Dana)....to use when Klaas runs to the store??   

[klaasend]

Dugga

Could we get one of those clocks (like Dana)....to use when Klaas runs to the store??   

You mean a flashing stop watch? 

[Buckeye]

Dugga

Could we get one of those clocks (like Dana)....to use when Klaas runs to the store??   

You mean a flashing stop watch? 

 

[Tamikosmom]

Klaas ... I sent you an email.

Janet

Ok..I'll check right now

Did I do it right? 

Nope!  Not completely.   

You move my intro but did not cut it from the original spot.

Thanks Klaas

Janet

Better?

PERFECT!!

Klaas ... could you please afford me the edit option.  I promise I will not tell the other Monkeys.  I realize jealousy is not a pretty picture.

Janet

[klaasend]

Janet - LOL

I know the edit button is missed by many but it was also used maliciously in the past.  It's something we need to think about more before allowing again. 

I don't want people to do what Reality does at BFN and delete all their posts 

[Nut44x4]

Dilma Arends tells O’Reilly of cell phone usage…says Joran home at 4 A.M. per records of cell phone sites and cell phone batteries.

http://nhcasenotes.proboards99.com/index.cgi?board=juneone&action=display&thread=1165852338&page=1
Guest: Reporter Dilma Arends
Aruba investigative reporter Dilma Arends elaborated on the Natalee Holloway investigation, implying that Aruba authorities may have a stronger case than many people realize. "Aruba authorities have been using cell sites and the cell phone batteries to determine the movement of the boys involved. For example, they were able to determine that Joren Van Der Sloot got home at 4 AM. So I think they have more proof than they are telling us." The Factor asserted that Arends' claims will provide comfort to Natalee's family. "What you just told us makes a difference to the Holloway family because it gives them some hope. There should be a way for the government to get more information to the family that is not going to damage the case."

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