Lively Case Discussion #673 8/3 - 8/5/2007

[mrs. red]

The only other person I know of who had a private meeting with the judge was Joran before he was released.

This proves to me that Lorenzo is a Sloot.

and we do have jossy saying that he is joran's half brother....

[San]

So will there be a court date for Lorenzo, or is this another example of a thug being set free by the Aruban legal system?

I wonder why on an island that doesnt' care at all about drug use he was arrested.... i mean in reality (theirs, that is...) what is 100 pot plants? 

And 100 pot plants was a bullshit excluse to bring this other psycho Sloot in and let him know what the deal was.  Someone wasn't listening to the rules and they made sure he knows who is boss.

[mrs. red]

So will there be a court date for Lorenzo, or is this another example of a thug being set free by the Aruban legal system?

I wonder why on an island that doesnt' care at all about drug use he was arrested.... i mean in reality (theirs, that is...) what is 100 pot plants? 

And 100 pot plants was a bullshit excluse to bring this other psycho Sloot in and let him know what the deal was.  Someone wasn't listening to the rules and they made sure he knows who is boss.

that makes sense to me...

[Destiny]

Destiny - I just emailed you.  Why don't you go ahead and post what they told you.  I don't see a problem with it. 

OK please excuse spelling of names.


First call to Aruban police dept where Lorenzo was being held...nice man there told me L had been moved to corrections inst. I got him to give me a contact name and # there...I called there 001 297 XXX XXXX asked for XXXXXXX, and XXXXXXX got on the computer and checked all for me.

Latest info Lorenzo van Rijn, Daniel Winkler sp? and Martin Winkler were all released on July 25th...no court date set...they had private meeting with judge...only one still in jail at corrections inst. is Ramon for guns  Lorenzo is still on Aruba and back at home.

That's the best I can do for now     Destiny

I thought the other guys last names were Vrojlik.

I was on the phone with him trying to keep him talking and writing things/names down the best I could...I really couln't ask him to spell names for me....sorrry    The only thing I might have messed up is the last names of Daniel and Martin.

The man I spoke with had very good english/but thick accent.  Sorry again

Dest

[SunFreak2]

I'll be back - gotta run an errand.

[mrs. red]

Destiny... don't be sorry...

that was a great find... and some cajones to call...!!

[KarmaRoundUp]

Dang, I thought for sure that would bring a response...


I read somewhere yesterday... the white car following jk2 - was that from joran's book?  but do we have any idea if that is factual? 

Only that it's mentioned in the statements, either Deepak or Satish's and we know how factual the statements are.

I still wonder if the reference to the white car is because Guido was following them to their "destination" to "party" with the girl they drugged.

Do we know for sure that Deepak stopped at another bar after getting Natalee in his car?

I don't.... but I am sure there is a monkey that knows...

Rumour has it that the bar was CHOOSE-A-NAME

Hi SF
Thanks,that's the bar that burned down.I wonder why he had to stop there if he did.Why not just call?Unless he had to pick something up or drop something off.

[fran]

Hi Fran
I still to this day believe the Kalpoe's were rearrested because Deepak was talking to Mr Skeeters.Then arresting Satish right along with Deepak and with those same"charges"to me was like them telling Deepak"yeah,go ahead and keep running your mouth and we'll pin this whole thing on you both!".

Hasn't Joran been doing just that since he got out of jail? Trying to pin it on K2. I think he did it in jail too, but turned around and denied it to K2 in the police recording.

I agree with you KarmaRoundUp. I have always thought K2 were rearrested to 'shut them up!'

Am I the only one that thinks it a coinky-dink that K2's step dad JUST HAPPENED to buy the cyber cafe WHILE his two step sons were in jail? Somewhere, was it here? I read there was no $$ that changed hands. How could that be? Businesses are free in Aruba?

Dompig opened a buisness, was it free? A couple of the friends of Joran that were brought in for questioning and then ran to hide out in Holland with their families in hot pursuit! Did they give their lucrative businesses away?

What's the deal?

JMHO
fran

[San]

Destiny... don't be sorry...

that was a great find... and some cajones to call...!!

I agree and thank you again Destiny.

It that was me I would have stuttered and gotten every name wrong

[mrs. red]

just thinking out loud... but is it possible that they ever mentioned or went to mambos?  I thought that was the bar that burnt down...

if not, why do I know that name???

[mrs. red]

fran ... well it seems that they all ended up with "better" jobs.... funny how that worked,

even steve croes ended up being the dj at CnC's

[San]

just thinking out loud... but is it possible that they ever mentioned or went to mambos?  I thought that was the bar that burnt down...

if not, why do I know that name???

I always get that bar mixed up with Choose a Name bar.

[Auntiem]

    It was Choose a Name that burned down......I think that MIP6 or Mark Purcell mentioned or worked as a bar tender there.  Or maybe told soneone to come hang out there with him.

[bleachedblack]

just thinking out loud... but is it possible that they ever mentioned or went to mambos?  I thought that was the bar that burnt down...

if not, why do I know that name???

I think that's the bar MIP6 owns?

[Carnut]

As usual I disagree on stopping at another bar other than CnC's

I think that came from confusion on the statements that they went from one bar to another bar within CnC's that night.

[Auntiem]

just thinking out loud... but is it possible that they ever mentioned or went to mambos?  I thought that was the bar that burnt down...

if not, why do I know that name???

I think that's the bar MIP6 owns?

BINGO!!!!!!

[klaasend]

   It was Choose a Name that burned down......I think that MIP6 or Mark Purcell mentioned or worked as a bar tender there.  Or maybe told soneone to come hang out there with him.

Both Choose a Name AND Moomba's had a fire.

[klaasend]

As usual I disagree on stopping at another bar other than CnC's

I think that came from confusion on the statements that they went from one bar to another bar within CnC's that night.

Carnut - I agree.  The other bar was the one on the other side of the room at CnC.

[bleachedblack]

Karma Lounge July 27th

[mrs. red]

just thinking out loud... but is it possible that they ever mentioned or went to mambos?  I thought that was the bar that burnt down...

if not, why do I know that name???

I think that's the bar MIP6 owns?

BINGO!!!!!!

Ok... so now we know his agenda... he owns a bar there...

it's interesting that he could have told someone to stop by....