Lively Case Discussion #673 8/3 - 8/5/2007

[mrs. red]

I think that the arm was a person's...and not at all what they tried to claim...

I agree mrs. red.

as hard as it is to say, I wonder if it's Natalee's?  Also, what ever happened the woman who found evidence on the beach??

Hi Everyone

I wonder if a bone specialist could tell by the photo if that was human or a primate? Also the 2 bones they found in Aruba I would imagine are long gone since they determined those to be donkey bones

that's right ... the bones the woman found were donkey bones... so is the "paradise" littered with bones of poor animals... and why would I want to vacation amoung that...

and *******, good to see you... been wondering where you got off to!

[crazybabyborg]

Need to run to the store, brb

I don't know why she bothers to post her store runs. She's back before the post hits the screen! 

[ldstlou]

I think that the arm was a person's...and not at all what they tried to claim...

I agree mrs. red.

as hard as it is to say, I wonder if it's Natalee's?  Also, what ever happened the woman who found evidence on the beach??

Hi Everyone

I wonder if a bone specialist could tell by the photo if that was human or a primate? Also the 2 bones they found in Aruba I would imagine are long gone since they determined those to be donkey bones

two great minds!! lol i was thinking the same thing!!

[Mere]

I think the getting Nat to another bar within CnC's was important because that was the process of getting her away from her group and to a more secluded and controlled location so they could provide her with the drugged drink.

And thereafter be able to keep an eye on her and help steer her in the direction the perps intended.

Wonder why they did not steer her right out the back door to the Kalpoe's car....surely there is a back door to the parking lot....(things I think about)....

No - the back door does NOT lead to the parking lot where Deepak's car was.  You have to walk out the front door of CnC and walk all the way to the end of the street then walk back behind the buildings.

Thanks Klaas....I should never assume that there is a back door to a bar in Aruba...I was working on most buildings I have visited....so....they were taking a big risk....knowing that they would have to get her out the front door to a car...no matter where it was located. 

Normally it seems that pimps would take a girl from a smaller group....but these were big risk takers with big egos...or maybe they were just stupid....

[fran]

Hello Fran! You are nekkid maybe CBB will dress you with an avi...she and Klaas do great avitars.

Destiny

I'd be happy to help, Fran. Just give me something to go on. 

Since Destiny doesn't like nekkid monkeys, perhaps I should put something on.

No offense to monkeys, I luv 'em, really , but we just got a 4 wk old little black and white kitty. Something along that line would be nice.

Thanks,
fran

[mrs. red]

Need to run to the store, brb

I don't know why she bothers to post her store runs. She's back before the post hits the screen! 

it's true...

Ldstlou... I don't even begin to know how to do that..

[crazybabyborg]

Does it seem strange to anyone that a wild donkey would go for a swim in the ocean and drown?

[Observer]

So will there be a court date for Lorenzo, or is this another example of a thug being set free by the Aruban legal system?

Hello all...I am reading backwards so excuse me if this has been asked and answered. I never understood why you all kept talking about Lorenzo except he was rumored to be jorans half brother..then the other day I read the lorenzo thread..wow...now I know why you think he was involved. I missed all those early posts about him.

So 1st question...did anyone ever check old newspaper articles to see if his dad committed suicide...and was it really a "suicide" or a suicide. lol you know what I mean.

well that thought had crossed my mind before... but it could have been a suicide...for real...

so many lies... so little time...

I looked for old newspapers and they are not available online. I had asked two Arubans why they thought he killed himself and they said it was a mystery. The rumor is drug abuse..But he is listed as dying on 12/21/01.

[KarmaRoundUp]

I think the getting Nat to another bar within CnC's was important because that was the process of getting her away from her group and to a more secluded and controlled location so they could provide her with the drugged drink.

And thereafter be able to keep an eye on her and help steer her in the direction the perps intended.

Wonder why they did not steer her right out the back door to the Kalpoe's car....surely there is a back door to the parking lot....(things I think about)....

Hi Mere
I always thought that was exactly what they did,steer her out the back door.Does anyone have a pic of the 2 bars and how far apart they are in C&C's?

[ldstlou]

Need to run to the store, brb

I don't know why she bothers to post her store runs. She's back before the post hits the screen! 

it's true...

Ldstlou... I don't even begin to know how to do that..

we'll have to wait for klaas..lol...wonder if Jossy could look it up?

[KarmaRoundUp]

I think the getting Nat to another bar within CnC's was important because that was the process of getting her away from her group and to a more secluded and controlled location so they could provide her with the drugged drink.

And thereafter be able to keep an eye on her and help steer her in the direction the perps intended.

Wonder why they did not steer her right out the back door to the Kalpoe's car....surely there is a back door to the parking lot....(things I think about)....

No - the back door does NOT lead to the parking lot where Deepak's car was.  You have to walk out the front door of CnC and walk all the way to the end of the street then walk back behind the buildings.

Aahh,where does the back door lead to?

[crazybabyborg]

Hello Fran! You are nekkid maybe CBB will dress you with an avi...she and Klaas do great avitars.

Destiny

I'd be happy to help, Fran. Just give me something to go on. 

Since Destiny doesn't like nekkid monkeys, perhaps I should put something on.

No offense to monkeys, I luv 'em, really , but we just got a 4 wk old little black and white kitty. Something along that line would be nice.

Thanks,
fran

We like ALL monkeys and you don't have to wear a thing, but I'll find you something and you can choose to get dressed or not. How's that? It's the Welcome Wagon gift.  BRB

[ldstlou]

So will there be a court date for Lorenzo, or is this another example of a thug being set free by the Aruban legal system?

Hello all...I am reading backwards so excuse me if this has been asked and answered. I never understood why you all kept talking about Lorenzo except he was rumored to be jorans half brother..then the other day I read the lorenzo thread..wow...now I know why you think he was involved. I missed all those early posts about him.

So 1st question...did anyone ever check old newspaper articles to see if his dad committed suicide...and was it really a "suicide" or a suicide. lol you know what I mean.

well that thought had crossed my mind before... but it could have been a suicide...for real...

so many lies... so little time...

I looked for old newspapers and they are not available online. I had asked two Arubans why they thought he killed himself and they said it was a mystery. The rumor is drug abuse..But he is listed as dying on 12/21/01.

you is good!! lol  well...history says..if you're found hanging from a rope somewhere...probably a murder!!

[mrs. red]

Does it seem strange to anyone that a wild donkey would go for a swim in the ocean and drown?

it did me.... or actually, if there are that many dead animals around why would I want to hang out there for a vacation...

[jasmine]

Does it seem strange to anyone that a wild donkey would go for a swim in the ocean and drown?

Sure seems strange to me.  And I agree that the bone that was found in Venezuela sure looks human to me too. 

[mrs. red]

BBL... carry on Monkeys...

keep the faith...

btw, a lot of good questions being discussed, going to ponder them.

[fran]

Not Ben King.  It's the casino that Mike Posner owns.  Posner was pissed the video was released to the media.

Thanks Klaas..........but, I thought Posner is King? Or is that someone else? Wasn't there some type of name change because of legal trouble or am I just totally confused on that issue?

fran

[Observer]

as hard as it is to say, I wonder if it's Natalee's?  Also, what ever happened the woman who found evidence on the beach??
[/quote]

Hi Everyone

I wonder if a bone specialist could tell by the photo if that was human or a primate? Also the 2 bones they found in Aruba I would imagine are long gone since they determined those to be donkey bones
[/quote]

that's right ... the bones the woman found were donkey bones... so is the "paradise" littered with bones of poor animals... and why would I want to vacation amoung that...

and *******, good to see you... been wondering where you got off to!
[/quote]

Hi Mrs.Red..Good to see you too.. This computer room has no AC so I over heat quickly in here..Luckily today its 10 degrees cooler

[NYC_lover]

Hi Mrs. Red,

good to see u, I have send the email again, just few minutes ago.

[KarmaRoundUp]

Does it seem strange to anyone that a wild donkey would go for a swim in the ocean and drown?

LOL....I was just thinking the same thing.Wasn't 2 sets of bones found?One(or 2)by a male tourist and one(or 2)by a female tourist....the one who got a hold of Tim Miller?