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Re: Lively Case Discussion #673 8/3 - 8/4/2007
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Quote from: bleachedblack on August 05, 2007, 06:44:43 PM
Klaas that drawing of the skeleton shows clearly that there is no bone connecting wrist and hand, yet the skeleton found shows the 2 still connected. I have some problem with this.
BB - I don't think there is anything clear about the scanned photo of the arm I posted. I can put it in photoshop and see if I can make it clearer. I do see what you mean though.
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Re: Lively Case Discussion #673 8/3 - 8/4/2007
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Quote from: bleachedblack on August 05, 2007, 06:44:43 PM
Klaas that drawing of the skeleton shows clearly that there is no bone connecting wrist and hand, yet the skeleton found shows the 2 still connected. I have some problem with this.
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Quote from: KarmaRoundUp on August 05, 2007, 06:45:32 PM
Quote from: SunFreak2 on August 05, 2007, 05:45:50 PM
I remember following a link (saved it) to a young teenager's blog. This girl was from MB. She had posted how a girl (NH) had gone missing and the family was en route to ARuba to find her. This was posted that Monday night around 11pm. I went back several times to her blog and read how the family thought she was being held hostage in a crack house, etc. This was written in real time with people asking her questions and her responses. Then months later the blog was gone from the link, and of course I had never copied anything and then erased the link after a few more months. Had anyone else seen this site?
Hey SF....I was just reading exactly what you wrote above...the other day.I think it was an aruba travel blog....I'll see if I can find it.
Here is one site but it looks different...I'll keep looking.
http://www.aruba.com/forum/f7/missing-2016/
I remember that also. An Aruban bb and the girl was not believed at first.
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Re: Lively Case Discussion #673 8/3 - 8/4/2007
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Quote from: klaasend on August 05, 2007, 06:46:41 PM
Quote from: bleachedblack on August 05, 2007, 06:44:43 PM
Klaas that drawing of the skeleton shows clearly that there is no bone connecting wrist and hand, yet the skeleton found shows the 2 still connected. I have some problem with this.
BB - I don't think there is anything clear about the scanned photo of the arm I posted. I can put it in photoshop and see if I can make it clearer. I do see what you mean though.
I don't think we are seeing bone at the wrist, I think it's tissue.
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Quote from: Buckeye on August 05, 2007, 06:46:23 PM
Ramm
From my memory, the initial reports were late. There was a Birmingham reporter on the island talking about heading to the lighthouse in the dark...others were going towards Huts.
What would the scene have been like if Natalee was found and found to have brutalized?? Is there a possibility that tourism is so important and there was so much media to announce the findings, that the powers that be, decided it would be better that she not be found?? Is it possible??
but by the time Joran and K2 were arrested there was lot's of media. I think the day the body supposedly was discovered was after his arrest.
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Re: Lively Case Discussion #673 8/3 - 8/4/2007
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Quote from: Buckeye on August 05, 2007, 06:46:23 PM
Ramm
From my memory, the initial reports were late. There was a Birmingham reporter on the island talking about heading to the lighthouse in the dark...others were going towards Huts.
What would the scene have been like if Natalee was found and found to have brutalized?? Is there a possibility that tourism is so important and there was so much media to announce the findings, that the powers that be, decided it would be better that she not be found?? Is it possible??
Was it "justice minister" Rudy Croes who said just that in the first few days?
Desaparecido
is a way of life in that part of the world. It's part of the mindset as much as the language.
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Quote from: SunFreak2 on August 05, 2007, 05:45:50 PM
I remember following a link (saved it) to a young teenager's blog. This girl was from MB. She had posted how a girl (NH) had gone missing and the family was en route to ARuba to find her. This was posted that Monday night around 11pm. I went back several times to her blog and read how the family thought she was being held hostage in a crack house, etc. This was written in real time with people asking her questions and her responses. Then months later the blog was gone from the link, and of course I had never copied anything and then erased the link after a few more months. Had anyone else seen this site?
Found it:
http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g147247-i144-k158081-o140-Alert-Aruba.html
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Re: Lively Case Discussion #673 8/3 - 8/4/2007
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Quote from: Rammstein on August 05, 2007, 06:50:54 PM
Quote from: Buckeye on August 05, 2007, 06:46:23 PM
Ramm
From my memory, the initial reports were late. There was a Birmingham reporter on the island talking about heading to the lighthouse in the dark...others were going towards Huts.
What would the scene have been like if Natalee was found and found to have brutalized?? Is there a possibility that tourism is so important and there was so much media to announce the findings, that the powers that be, decided it would be better that she not be found?? Is it possible??
but by the time Joran and K2 were arrested there was lot's of media. I think the day the body supposedly was discovered was after his arrest.
Yes, June 10th. The day he looked devastated. I believe they found her and did the final disposal...to save the island.
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Quote from: Nut44x4 on August 05, 2007, 05:50:32 PM
Anyone know who this guy on the left is and why he looks familiar to me?? This was at Bahia aug 3rd.
He looks like he could be related to Joe Tacopenishead.
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Re: Lively Case Discussion #673 8/3 - 8/4/2007
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Quote from: Rammstein on August 05, 2007, 06:50:54 PM
Quote from: Buckeye on August 05, 2007, 06:46:23 PM
Ramm
From my memory, the initial reports were late. There was a Birmingham reporter on the island talking about heading to the lighthouse in the dark...others were going towards Huts.
What would the scene have been like if Natalee was found and found to have brutalized?? Is there a possibility that tourism is so important and there was so much media to announce the findings, that the powers that be, decided it would be better that she not be found?? Is it possible??
but by the time Joran and K2 were arrested there was lot's of media. I think the day the body supposedly was discovered was after his arrest.
Yes, J2K arrested on 9th.
On 10th- reports she was found dead
on 10th - Rocks video & paiting the following day
on 11th - police searched lighthouse are, Bubali Plas & Canishito
on 11th - retraction of she's been found dead
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Quote from: Rammstein on August 05, 2007, 06:50:54 PM
Quote from: Buckeye on August 05, 2007, 06:46:23 PM
Ramm
From my memory, the initial reports were late. There was a Birmingham reporter on the island talking about heading to the lighthouse in the dark...others were going towards Huts.
What would the scene have been like if Natalee was found and found to have brutalized?? Is there a possibility that tourism is so important and there was so much media to announce the findings, that the powers that be, decided it would be better that she not be found?? Is it possible??
but by the time Joran and K2 were arrested there was lot's of media. I think the day the body supposedly was discovered was after his arrest.
Yes, J2K arrested on 9th.
On 10th- reports she was found dead
on 10th - Rocks video & paiting the following day
on 11th - police searched lighthouse are, Bubali Plas & Canishito
on 11th - retraction of she's been found dead
13th Jan VDS records casual conversation with arrested suspect and offers him time in a mental institution (?? because of the horrid condition Natalee was found to be??).
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Re: Lively Case Discussion #673 8/3 - 8/4/2007
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Quote from: bleachedblack on August 05, 2007, 06:47:09 PM
Quote from: bleachedblack on August 05, 2007, 06:44:43 PM
Klaas that drawing of the skeleton shows clearly that there is no bone connecting wrist and hand, yet the skeleton found shows the 2 still connected. I have some problem with this.
Nice image, bleach. I think if one compares this image and the other, the finger bones are different proportions from humans'. That suggests to me a brachiating primate cousin. Seeing only the photo I'm not good enough at comparative primate osteology to have taken a shot at it - but I just did.
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Where did the terms heavy battery come from? I believe they were the charges against two of thw suspects arrested in Natalee's case. How did they know? Kidnapping, rape and heavy battery I believe were the exact charges. (?????)
Strange, just like they are now claiming Cocaine Overdose??????
No, I think, for the former, they indeed, ascertained rape and heavy battery!!!
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Quote from: SunFreak2 on August 05, 2007, 06:55:48 PM
Quote from: Rammstein on August 05, 2007, 06:50:54 PM
Quote from: Buckeye on August 05, 2007, 06:46:23 PM
Ramm
From my memory, the initial reports were late. There was a Birmingham reporter on the island talking about heading to the lighthouse in the dark...others were going towards Huts.
What would the scene have been like if Natalee was found and found to have brutalized?? Is there a possibility that tourism is so important and there was so much media to announce the findings, that the powers that be, decided it would be better that she not be found?? Is it possible??
but by the time Joran and K2 were arrested there was lot's of media. I think the day the body supposedly was discovered was after his arrest.
Yes, J2K arrested on 9th.
On 10th- reports she was found dead
on 10th - Rocks video & paiting the following day
on 11th - police searched lighthouse are, Bubali Plas & Canishito
on 11th - retraction of she's been found dead
I believe she was found, and disposed of b/c the spin doctors said it would be better to not find a body to save tourism.
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Re: Lively Case Discussion #673 8/3 - 8/4/2007
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Quote from: Rammstein on August 05, 2007, 06:04:31 PM
Quote from: Auntiem on August 05, 2007, 06:02:26 PM
They found Natalee, don't you all remember? June of 2005. There was an announcement,and confirmation...we saw Beth's crumpling body as she got the most tragic news of her life!!!! But then, came the retraction! What happened???? The body was not "presentable".....too much DNA. It was "disappeared!!!!
I believe a lot of things but not this rumor. The wrong department/people told this. Remarks like this are the responsibility of the DA's office or
the police
, not by politicians or people from a ministry.
Didn't Dompig also announce this?
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Re: Lively Case Discussion #673 8/3 - 8/4/2007
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Quote from: bleachedblack on August 05, 2007, 06:44:43 PM
Klaas that drawing of the skeleton shows clearly that there is no bone connecting wrist and hand, yet the skeleton found shows the 2 still connected. I have some problem with this.
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Who else could hide her body better from the polis THAN the polis!!!!
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Quote from: KarmaRoundUp on August 05, 2007, 07:02:10 PM
Quote from: Rammstein on August 05, 2007, 06:04:31 PM
Quote from: Auntiem on August 05, 2007, 06:02:26 PM
They found Natalee, don't you all remember? June of 2005. There was an announcement,and confirmation...we saw Beth's crumpling body as she got the most tragic news of her life!!!! But then, came the retraction! What happened???? The body was not "presentable".....too much DNA. It was "disappeared!!!!
I believe a lot of things but not this rumor. The wrong department/people told this. Remarks like this are the responsibility of the DA's office or
the police
, not by politicians or people from a ministry.
Didn't Dompig also announce this?
YES!!!!!! It was not a RUMOR!!!!!!
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Quote from: KarmaRoundUp on August 05, 2007, 06:14:50 PM
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Quote from: Carnut on August 05, 2007, 04:50:17 PM
Don't think any kids in her class has said they saw her in the car and asked her to get out.
Think that was a misslead from the reenaction show.
I think it was David Kock (lawyer of Satish) who said that based on court documents/statements from the students (at least that is what Scrux writes)
I would like to read those statements from the MB kids....that does sound familar to me,what you said above Ramm.
Kock was just echoing the misdirection plan.
Now that I do believe.
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Quote from: Auntiem on August 05, 2007, 07:03:31 PM
Who else could hide her body better from the polis THAN the polis!!!!
I'm pretty sure PVDS handled the body disposal.
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