Lively Case Discussion #510 8/11 - 8/12/2006

[sharon]

I am a little disappointed NOMAD's great post to raise money just by searching didn't get a more positive response.

MONKEYS!!  PLEASE USE THAT SEARCH ENGINE TO RAISE MONEY FOR TES!!  

And Sunny may can even let them know to expect it if Nomad did't already tell them she put them as her charity

Anna -- I've already bookmarked it and will start using it tomorrow when TES becomes a valid entry.

[Anna]

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One last post before I go--Time to Embarrass Klaas!!
     

And she and I both know we do not always agree on everything but I love her for what she does for this cause so much!

With the exception of something like Metro's question and stuff pertaining to the statements, I am trying very hard not to bother her with anything and know all the other monkeys are as well for there may be more statements forthcoming.


I don't know what all is involved in getting them to the front page but converting to jpg seems to be part of it and I would imagine alignment, etc. is required and she has been typing her fingers "to the bone" as we used to hear without one single complaint.  Not many would do that and she NEVER even asks for credit for anything.

Some have thought she actually got paid money for this it is so hard but she doesn't as it is a work of love from her big heart.  She will get no complaints from me.  Anyone who has any can just try to do what she does for a week or two and see how it goes as far as I am concerned.  I do wish she had a couple of back up mods, however.  

Klaas, we love you, Babe!  

Anna

Off to appointment. . . .

[sharon]

I know that it is going to be unpopular opinion around here but I think most teens this age are experimenting with sex - remember the bases? (1st Base)

He's rounding first and really turning it on
now, he's not letting up at all, he's gonna
try for second; the ball is bobbled out in center,
and here comes the throw, and what a throw!
He's gonna slide in head first, here he comes, he's out!
No, wait, safe--safe at second base, this kid really
makes things happen out there.

Paradise by the dashboard light...

Seemed more innocenct back then......

Because it was fair wrestling match back then

I don't remember being drugged first.

[igsigs]

Computer Records

Tone is off. These supposed messages between Joran and Deepak are odd. Lovey-dovey he-hes and glad you are home content match up with nothing else that we know about the personalities of these two suspects.

Consider what immediatley preceeded these messages...the 7 minute phone call. In which Deepak rails against a heavily breathing Joran for leaving the girl at the beach. A call which Deepak says is rife with interference, thus prompting the follow up communication to assure all is well.

But the follow up is sparse, no interest shown in the hows and whys. No mention of the girl left on the beach, or his ride from Satish. I hope we get to see Joran's cell records from that night...or Val's.

[Ono]

Electronic record timeline for May 30:

Joran calls Deepak.

3.07 am: Val on computer

3:15 am: Joran sends Deepak text messge from his cell phone.  Message says: Hey Swa I am home now, I will see you tomorrow (stated by polis in Joran 6/14 statement)

?? am:  Deepak sends message to Joran.  Message says: OK (stated by polis in Joran 6/14 statement)  

3:25 am: Deepak sends message to Joran.  Message says: Are you there?

3:25 am: Deepak sends message to Joran.  Message says: Anyways nice to hear you are home I will talk to you tomorrow I am going to bed

3:25 am: Deepak sends message to Joran.  Message says: Take care

3:33 am: Joran sends IM to Deepak.  Message says: Hey swa

3:35 am: Joran sends IM to Deepak. Message says: topa/loca pimp heehehe

3:35 am: Joran visits hotmail

3:40-3:45 am: Joran visits four soccer-related sites

3:46 am: Joran visits porn site

3:56 pm: Joran vists porn site, downloads two porn movies

4:30 am: Joran visits hotmail

5:50 am: Something about Anita and outlook express/e-mail

7:02 am: Paulus visits hotmail

7:34-7:37 pm: Paulus vists several stock-related sites

7:37 pm: Paulus googles "alcohol", beer", and "drugs".  Visits sites containing information on alcohol and drugs, the dangers of these for young people, and a lawyer's office.  The sites are visited only briefly.

9:18 pm: VDS computer infected with virus

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What is the 5:50 record with Anita about, she was not home

Good question, do they all share accounts?  Makes you wonder if Valentijn signed on at all.

Also, what does "topa/loca pimp hee he he" mean...looks like "loca" is referring to a femine gender of loco (crazy)....some crazy girl?  What does "topa" mean and why is he so amused ??

[Ono]

Was the bloody mattress one from Joran's apartment? The one with dog blood and does not Joran refer to women as dogs?

Tyler I believe that mattress came from his apartment.  In one of Joran's statements Deepak says they went into Joran's apartment and sat on the floor because his bed was on the floor.  In another statement it says that Joran has a sofa bed.  Which one is it.

Didn't Deepak say that Joran's mattresses were on the floor ??  I thought that was a deliberate lie for some self-serving reason.

[klaasend]

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One last post before I go--Time to Embarrass Klaas!!
     

And she and I both know we do not always agree on everything but I love her for what she does for this cause so much!

With the exception of something like Metro's question and stuff pertaining to the statements, I am trying very hard not to bother her with anything and know all the other monkeys are as well for there may be more statements forthcoming.


I don't know what all is involved in getting them to the front page but converting to jpg seems to be part of it and I would imagine alignment, etc. is required and she has been typing her fingers "to the bone" as we used to hear without one single complaint.  Not many would do that and she NEVER even asks for credit for anything.

Some have thought she actually got paid money for this it is so hard but she doesn't as it is a work of love from her big heart.  She will get no complaints from me.  Anyone who has any can just try to do what she does for a week or two and see how it goes as far as I am concerned.  I do wish she had a couple of back up mods, however.  

Klaas, we love you, Babe!  

Anna

Off to appointment. . . .

Anna - thanks, it's been crazy the last couple days that's for sure.  Yes, to make them more "visible" on the front page I'm putting them into .jpg.  I'm also adding the "watermark" to each so there are several steps involved.  Then, I add the same information in the forum, but not in .jpg so that we can copy and paste and dissect the statement better.  Thankfully, I'm caught up at the moment.     That is a good thing because I really have a ton of REAL work to do before Monday.

[Atlmetroguy]

You know, I'm laughing at the Refugees and other sites that are complaining about my "rough" translations of the cell and computer records.  

Most of the information for both of those records was technical.  The idea was to get the documents posted.   Some of it needs no translation at all like the times and websites visited.  

If they don't like my rough translations they can translate themselves  

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I guess they will have a blast with my analysis of the cell phone data....

Atl:  If you are still here:  In one of Deepak's statements, he said that his home phone couldn't recieve calls from cell phones?  Have you ever heard of this???

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Sure..it's called "call barring" and can work in either direction

[mrs. red]

Wanna guess where I'll be tomorrow!

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Very cool Sunny - take lots of pictures!

I am a little disappointed NOMAD's great post to raise money just by searching didn't get a more positive response.

MONKEYS!!  PLEASE USE THAT SEARCH ENGINE TO RAISE MONEY FOR TES!!  


And Sunny may can even let them know to expect it if Nomad did't already tell them she put them as her charity

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Before we sign TES up for anything, we should probably run it by them... I don't know how this works... but I will make sure that Red will talk to TIM about it...

[klaasend]

ONO - In the Pap translator, the word TOPA translates to "come accross"

[KatzHome]

'Night Monkeys ~ I'm going in for a nap before work tonight ~ see ya'll later ~ or tomorrow or something...

[mrs. red]

I second Anna's post to Klaasend..... it has been an amazing amount of work....

[Ono]

Computer Records

Tone is off. These supposed messages between Joran and Deepak are odd. Lovey-dovey he-hes and glad you are home content match up with nothing else that we know about the personalities of these two suspects.

Consider what immediatley preceeded these messages...the 7 minute phone call. In which Deepak rails against a heavily breathing Joran for leaving the girl at the beach. A call which Deepak says is rife with interference, thus prompting the follow up communication to assure all is well.

But the follow up is sparse, no interest shown in the hows and whys. No mention of the girl left on the beach, or his ride from Satish. I hope we get to see Joran's cell records from that night...or Val's.

Yes, very, very odd and un-natural...all staged..

[Ono]

ONO - In the Pap translator, the word TOPA translates to "come accross"

Thanks !!

[mrs. red]

Computer Records

Tone is off. These supposed messages between Joran and Deepak are odd. Lovey-dovey he-hes and glad you are home content match up with nothing else that we know about the personalities of these two suspects.

Consider what immediatley preceeded these messages...the 7 minute phone call. In which Deepak rails against a heavily breathing Joran for leaving the girl at the beach. A call which Deepak says is rife with interference, thus prompting the follow up communication to assure all is well.

But the follow up is sparse, no interest shown in the hows and whys. No mention of the girl left on the beach, or his ride from Satish. I hope we get to see Joran's cell records from that night...or Val's.

Yes, very, very odd and un-natural...all staged..

besides what guys call each other and say I am home.... it's never sat right with me...

[flyingmermaid]

Sunny - Hi MTWS if you are here.

[mrs. red]

Keep the faith monkeys!

[Ono]

After reading these statements, I can surely see why the wording of the civil suit was as it was.  Paulus (and Anita) have set the stage at home for all of this rampant degeneracy, contributed to the delinqency of a minor, and laid the groundwork for the crimes against these girls.  It's really rank.

[Ono]

Computer Records

Tone is off. These supposed messages between Joran and Deepak are odd. Lovey-dovey he-hes and glad you are home content match up with nothing else that we know about the personalities of these two suspects.

Consider what immediatley preceeded these messages...the 7 minute phone call. In which Deepak rails against a heavily breathing Joran for leaving the girl at the beach. A call which Deepak says is rife with interference, thus prompting the follow up communication to assure all is well.

But the follow up is sparse, no interest shown in the hows and whys. No mention of the girl left on the beach, or his ride from Satish. I hope we get to see Joran's cell records from that night...or Val's.

Yes, very, very odd and un-natural...all staged..

besides what guys call each other and say I am home.... it's never sat right with me...

Exactly. Completely way off. Unless it is code for something...Also, there is no way to know who is using whose e-mail accounts on any given  computer...

[flyingmermaid]

Well I am out of here gotta do a report first maybe I will see ya later!