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« Reply #140 on: June 23, 2006, 09:52:36 PM »

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It is being looked into. It is exhausting going from a standing start when these situations happen. I lost a whole day of work yesterday and half a day today on it.



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« Reply #141 on: June 23, 2006, 09:53:42 PM »

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The guy over at scrux thinks it was all some orchestrated conspiracy to knock out web sites related to Natalee!   Shocked

Any idea when it will be back to normal?


Well, Roger did admit that his site was down this morning due to a Denial of Service attack.


Nope , no conspiracies here, our host has on a connection that would make it very very hard to knock out.

But they can not put a @#$@# hard drive in this server that will last. I wanted to get you all up and running asap, so I did the quick fix.

We are looking into alternatives so hopefully this will not happen again, but we unfortunately can not control a hard drive failure or two.

For those who are not in and were added recently, Red is working on it and it should be done in a couple of days.


Thanks Tom and Red!   Whew it's awful when the board is down!  Hi Monks!  I loved JQ's remark about the aruban police being off the job  for the past 13 months!!!  I almost didn't turn Greta on...but now i am glad I did!  GO JQK!  Can someone explain where it comes from that the Columbian witness might be more than a witness??  TIA
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« Reply #142 on: June 23, 2006, 09:54:10 PM »

OK, can someone straighten me out here?  I know what I have heard about the witness and them finding the weights and all, and it sounds like there may be something there.  I know J told us the dunes thing happened on June 10th "this past year" days after Natalee went missing.  First it was a sign Aruba says, now its a 7 year old boy.  But then I read what Rob has said, and don't understand the year difference.  We were told the body may have been there for a year prior to all of this.  But not found a year prior to this.  I am going to go make what I think looks like in that bag, can someone tell me where the shoe might be?  I have been to that sight, and that bag isn't all that big, maybe 3 feet by 3 feet.  The location of where that pic is taken is right in between the huts, cross the road, and it leads to the area that they drained, if that helps anyone.  That area you see is right after you go across the road, like a drain.  I am going to go make what i see and I'll post it if thats OK.  BRB
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« Reply #143 on: June 23, 2006, 09:55:34 PM »

Klaas

Did you notice on Arthur's tickle site....the bottle of Absinthe (his friend?)? Isn't that the stuff from Greece that they talked about making people go crazy (in the George Smith case)?

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« Reply #144 on: June 23, 2006, 09:56:58 PM »

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OK, can someone straighten me out here?  I know what I have heard about the witness and them finding the weights and all, and it sounds like there may be something there.  I know J told us the dunes thing happened on June 10th "this past year" days after Natalee went missing.  First it was a sign Aruba says, now its a 7 year old boy.  But then I read what Rob has said, and don't understand the year difference.  We were told the body may have been there for a year prior to all of this.  But not found a year prior to this.  I am going to go make what I think looks like in that bag, can someone tell me where the shoe might be?  I have been to that sight, and that bag isn't all that big, maybe 3 feet by 3 feet.  The location of where that pic is taken is right in between the huts, cross the road, and it leads to the area that they drained, if that helps anyone.  That area you see is right after you go across the road, like a drain.  I am going to go make what i see and I'll post it if thats OK.  BRB


thanks Hotshot!
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« Reply #145 on: June 23, 2006, 09:58:38 PM »

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Easy

What is dos Santos' first name???


I don't know and I have asked several times.  I'm also supposed to get some pictures of Lorenzo, but have not thus far.


There is an Arthur Santos who I believe is Ally Santo's brother.  They both, Arthur and Ally are friends with Joran, Koen and Sander:

Arthur:
http://connect.tickle.com/profile/index.html?id=EQRK.PIiLfERqdhf

Ally:
http://connect.tickle.com/profile/index.html?id=XxFh8dFWzMR4N-E5


I was told it was definitely not Ally Santos.  It was a guy that was at the casinos with them the night/morning after Natalee went missing.


thanks Easy....have you heard anything about the possibility that the Columbian witness may be more than a witness?  I didn't get a sense of that from JQ last night...just the fact the he felt the $$$ was what eventually brought this guy out??
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« Reply #146 on: June 23, 2006, 10:01:08 PM »

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Well...one thing makes does make sense: Keeping him safe & sound in jail, with the way things go down on that Unsafe Island. Didn't Jossy say he passed a lie-detector test?



Alex Matthews wasn't safe and sound in jail.  Same person supervises the prison now as when Mattews was drugged, beaten, tortured, etc.   Sad

Oh, wait.  He changed his name so that means he doesn't do those things anymore, I guess.   Confused
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« Reply #147 on: June 23, 2006, 10:03:00 PM »

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Actually, any quantum singularity would do the trick!


Gunslinger ,I have had thunder and lightning off and on for days and not a drop of rain.  Am I not living right?  Our temperature yesterday exceeded any since 1830.  We broke another record today.  Send rain, just any amount of rain.  Water bill is going to cause divorce. Laughing


Well, we got about a dozen rain drops which went into the making of a huge fog bank!!  It could be worse, Tyler.  I couldn't drive in this if I had to!

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« Reply #148 on: June 23, 2006, 10:03:23 PM »

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Easy

What is dos Santos' first name???


I don't know and I have asked several times.  I'm also supposed to get some pictures of Lorenzo, but have not thus far.


There is an Arthur Santos who I believe is Ally Santo's brother.  They both, Arthur and Ally are friends with Joran, Koen and Sander:

Arthur:
http://connect.tickle.com/profile/index.html?id=EQRK.PIiLfERqdhf

Ally:
http://connect.tickle.com/profile/index.html?id=XxFh8dFWzMR4N-E5


I was told it was definitely not Ally Santos.  It was a guy that was at the casinos with them the night/morning after Natalee went missing.


Ally is a girl, the one who is in the prom/limo picture with Joran and Koen and Freddy.  I was thinking that it might be Arthur.
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« Reply #149 on: June 23, 2006, 10:04:12 PM »

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Pictures and shoe discussion on page 4.
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« Reply #150 on: June 23, 2006, 10:04:57 PM »

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Klaas

Did you notice on Arthur's tickle site....the bottle of Absinthe (his friend?)? Isn't that the stuff from Greece that they talked about making people go crazy (in the George Smith case)?

Easy

Thanks for persevering (sp?).


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« Reply #151 on: June 23, 2006, 10:05:44 PM »

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Easy

What is dos Santos' first name???


I don't know and I have asked several times.  I'm also supposed to get some pictures of Lorenzo, but have not thus far.


There is an Arthur Santos who I believe is Ally Santo's brother.  They both, Arthur and Ally are friends with Joran, Koen and Sander:

Arthur:
http://connect.tickle.com/profile/index.html?id=EQRK.PIiLfERqdhf

Ally:
http://connect.tickle.com/profile/index.html?id=XxFh8dFWzMR4N-E5


I was told it was definitely not Ally Santos.  It was a guy that was at the casinos with them the night/morning after Natalee went missing.


thanks Easy....have you heard anything about the possibility that the Columbian witness may be more than a witness?  I didn't get a sense of that from JQ last night...just the fact the he felt the $$$ was what eventually brought this guy out??


That is a new twist I read on the boards today.  I do know the guy was hard pressed for cash when he approached JM.  I also know that some of his story checks out and some of it bothers everyone that has heard it.  I want to know more about it, but I'm just not sure right now.
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« Reply #152 on: June 23, 2006, 10:06:29 PM »

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Maybe Dos Santos first name is Dos--get it??  Dos Santos??    Cool
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« Reply #153 on: June 23, 2006, 10:07:53 PM »

Isn't THE PURPOSE of reward money to bring people forward....make it worth the risk....especially in a corrupt area??
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« Reply #154 on: June 23, 2006, 10:09:07 PM »

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Easy

What is dos Santos' first name???


I don't know and I have asked several times.  I'm also supposed to get some pictures of Lorenzo, but have not thus far.


There is an Arthur Santos who I believe is Ally Santo's brother.  They both, Arthur and Ally are friends with Joran, Koen and Sander:

Arthur:
http://connect.tickle.com/profile/index.html?id=EQRK.PIiLfERqdhf

Ally:
http://connect.tickle.com/profile/index.html?id=XxFh8dFWzMR4N-E5


I was told it was definitely not Ally Santos.  It was a guy that was at the casinos with them the night/morning after Natalee went missing.


Ally is a girl, the one who is in the prom/limo picture with Joran and Koen and Freddy.  I was thinking that it might be Arthur.


Didn't someone find a tickle site for a Bryan Dos Santos that was 20-years-old and one of his friend's pictures linked him to Arthur Santos and all the other usual suspects?
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« Reply #155 on: June 23, 2006, 10:10:37 PM »



And yes I was thinking it was a sandbag also.
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« Reply #156 on: June 23, 2006, 10:11:07 PM »

There is a Bryan Dos Santos but I didn't find any links:

http://www.zorpia.com/cgi/album.cgi?username=85bryan&album_id=-1
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« Reply #157 on: June 23, 2006, 10:12:08 PM »

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Well...one thing makes does make sense: Keeping him safe & sound in jail, with the way things go down on that Unsafe Island. Didn't Jossy say he passed a lie-detector test?



Alex Matthews wasn't safe and sound in jail.  Same person supervises the prison now as when Mattews was drugged, beaten, tortured, etc.   Sad

Oh, wait.  He changed his name so that means he doesn't do those things anymore, I guess.   Confused


LOL Anna your exactly right!!!
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« Reply #158 on: June 23, 2006, 10:12:49 PM »

New front page post:

Aru-bay/Chicago Pond and White Bag Videos; Did a Witness say they saw Weights?

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« Reply #159 on: June 23, 2006, 10:13:20 PM »

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This new Colombian witness just plain stinks.  Sorry, I do not mean personally he does but just this story we are being given.  It doesn't add up.

Supposedly he had two pieces of evidence so would that be the weights and the frozen condom he gave to his brother in South America?  What happened to all that talk?  And keeping a person in jail for over a month has to be a tremendous hardship on them and their family.  Who is supporting this man's wife and children if he has them?  Has he given a statement to the judge yet?  If not, why not?  Will his evidence be sent to that great black hole known as NFI never to be heard from again like all the rest?  Does it even do any good to have evidence if none of it is allowed or it disappears?

Is he being groomed to take the blame for all of this?  I just don't like the fact that we are getting so many different explanations for why he is being held so long and what evidence he has presented and why.  In Aruba, this kind of shuffle usually leads no where.  Just done to confuse and obfuscate.   Sad
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