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Topic: Lively Case Discussion #478 6/23 - 6/24/2006 (Read 317410 times)
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justinsmama
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June 24, 2006, 09:33:49 PM »
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Does anyone remember how dark it was that night on the beach? Was there any moonlight? I want to know how far away that witness actually was. I think it would be difficult to identify Joran as the person unless the witness was very close to him. There are several people that have been mentioned that could easily look like Joran on a beach in the early morning hours. ( Geez! Now I sound like I am on Joran's side.)
Headlights on the car were on?
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Lala'sMom
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Quote from: "justinsmama"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Does anyone remember how dark it was that night on the beach? Was there any moonlight? I want to know how far away that witness actually was. I think it would be difficult to identify Joran as the person unless the witness was very close to him. There are several people that have been mentioned that could easily look like Joran on a beach in the early morning hours. ( Geez! Now I sound like I am on Joran's side.)
Headlights on the car were on?
Again, how close was this witness? Just trying to think through this as being someone else that may have been paid to dispose of the body that resembled Joran.
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wreck
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June 24, 2006, 09:37:05 PM »
Quote from: "wreck"
Just another observation.......
Do you all remember when they first tried to "drain the pond"? They brought in huge pumps (from Valero, if I recall). They put the drain hose directly into a "spillway" VERY similar to the one in the pic. This "spillway" supposedly drained directly back to the sea. Could we be talking about the same one??
This got rushed right before "The Line-Up" came on. Any thoughts???
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Buckeye
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June 24, 2006, 09:37:36 PM »
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "justinsmama"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Does anyone remember how dark it was that night on the beach? Was there any moonlight? I want to know how far away that witness actually was. I think it would be difficult to identify Joran as the person unless the witness was very close to him. There are several people that have been mentioned that could easily look like Joran on a beach in the early morning hours. ( Geez! Now I sound like I am on Joran's side.)
Headlights on the car were on?
Again, how close was this witness? Just trying to think through this as being someone else that may have been paid to dispose of the body that resembled Joran.
Well, if it was too dark to describe the car....then it would be too dark to see if anyone else was in the car.
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Lala'sMom
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June 24, 2006, 09:40:11 PM »
Buckeye,
That is what I am trying to say. How can the witness see Joran well enough to identify him and yet can't tell you anything about the car. Yet the witness saw him remove something from the car to wrap her body in.
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Easywriter
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My engineering background is really having a problem with this constant reference to a spillway. A concrete box is not a spillway! It is an inlet and it will collect anything that is carried by water.
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sandy leiva
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thanks klaas and sandy....does anybody have his myspace account saved...where that comment shows up?
its on my burned out hard drive which i have saved anyone know how to make miracles happen? am willling to donate hardware if u can it has most of all early natalee archives in it
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justinsmama
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June 24, 2006, 09:44:42 PM »
And no, Lala's, asking that does not make you seem like a Joran supporter. Only someone seeking the truth.
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klaasend
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June 24, 2006, 09:44:46 PM »
Quote from: "wreck"
Quote from: "wreck"
Just another observation.......
Do you all remember when they first tried to "drain the pond"? They brought in huge pumps (from Valero, if I recall). They put the drain hose directly into a "spillway" VERY similar to the one in the pic. This "spillway" supposedly drained directly back to the sea. Could we be talking about the same one??
This got rushed right before "The Line-Up" came on. Any thoughts???
Not sure, I don't think so but it's possible:
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Frijole
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June 24, 2006, 09:44:48 PM »
Quote from: "Easywriter"
My engineering background is really having a problem with this constant reference to a spillway. A concrete box is not a spillway! It is an inlet and it will collect anything that is carried by water.
Thank you! This is a drainage ditch.
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Easywriter
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June 24, 2006, 09:47:40 PM »
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "wreck"
Quote from: "wreck"
Just another observation.......
Do you all remember when they first tried to "drain the pond"? They brought in huge pumps (from Valero, if I recall). They put the drain hose directly into a "spillway" VERY similar to the one in the pic. This "spillway" supposedly drained directly back to the sea. Could we be talking about the same one??
This got rushed right before "The Line-Up" came on. Any thoughts???
Not sure, I don't think so but it's possible:
That is a winged-wall inlet. A spillway would allow water to cross over the surface.
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LouiseVargas
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June 24, 2006, 09:48:18 PM »
Thank you, Justins, for trying to answer my nagging questions.
Hotshot, if you saw such (if not THE) spillway in Aruba, is that the only spillway in Aruba? Hotshot, did you personally take the pics we are now looking at online?
Are spillways hidden or out in the open?
Sorry for nagging but no one is saying how many spillways Aruba has and if they are hidden or out in the open.
Once I can get my questions answered, then I can contemplate further on the bag in the spillway.
In my year here at Scared Monkeys, I have never before nagged you to death about any issue.
I live near a big dam, the William Mulholland / Hollywood Reservoir dam. It is huge. But I'm a moron when it comes to spillways.
Somebody please help me.
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Hotshot
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June 24, 2006, 09:49:13 PM »
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "Hotshot"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
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What does everyone make of this body that was just found in Aruba? Does the location fit with a boat, or raft drifting toward the island?
What is the location EASY? That I didnt get to see.
I'm sure I have the spelling wrong, but it was in the Ariwok(?) area I believe.
If it is Ariwok, or Arikok they are both on the bad side of the island, near natural bridge. Boats dont go out there, it's too rough, and columbia is totally across the Island to the south/west. So it's kind of hard to believe she washed up there then. Just another thing to think about.
That's what I was thinking. The location doesn't sound right for an accidental death while trying to make it to the island. Isn't the same area where Pitbull was found?
Yes!! Only he made it at least into a cave.
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Frijole
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June 24, 2006, 09:50:18 PM »
Anyone else find it weird that Dave said he doesn't even know if the condom has been turned in?
Wonder if he meant:
to ALE
to Holland
???
We've heard that an item is being tested in Holland ... could it be:
pipe,
clothing
condom
or .... maybe they just put it in the file drawer.
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lexie
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June 24, 2006, 09:50:58 PM »
Thanks for all the hard work getting the forum back up. Have a question, perhaps Easywriter can address.
Last month, JQK said on Greta that KJ said she was NOT leaving next month, and would be there into next year. Jossy said in the DP interview that KJ was "still leaving next month" and they had not talked to the man who was replacing her.
Is this KJ's annual 2 week vacation to Holland? Or is she leaving for good? Did she lie to JQK? Or to Jossy? Why?
Thanks.
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klaasend
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Reply #515 on:
June 24, 2006, 09:52:05 PM »
Quote from: "Easywriter"
My engineering background is really having a problem with this constant reference to a spillway. A concrete box is not a spillway! It is an inlet and it will collect anything that is carried by water.
I'll help you out Easy - it is a DRAINAGE INLET, not a spillway:
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Hotshot
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June 24, 2006, 09:52:16 PM »
Quote from: "wreck"
Quote from: "wreck"
Just another observation.......
Do you all remember when they first tried to "drain the pond"? They brought in huge pumps (from Valero, if I recall). They put the drain hose directly into a "spillway" VERY similar to the one in the pic. This "spillway" supposedly drained directly back to the sea. Could we be talking about the same one??
This got rushed right before "The Line-Up" came on. Any thoughts???
The one we saw when they drained the pond was huge compared to the one the bag is in though.
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SunFreak2
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June 24, 2006, 09:52:21 PM »
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Does anyone remember how dark it was that night on the beach? Was there any moonlight? I want to know how far away that witness actually was. I think it would be difficult to identify Joran as the person unless the witness was very close to him. There are several people that have been mentioned that could easily look like Joran on a beach in the early morning hours. ( Geez! Now I sound like I am on Joran's side.)
May 30 - The ARUBA sky is partly cloudy. Temperature is 84.2 degrees. Dew point is 77 degrees. Humidity is 79%. Wind is out of the east at 13.8 mph. Ground visibility is perfectly clear at 7 miles to horizon.
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Frijole
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June 24, 2006, 09:52:23 PM »
Quote from: "lexie"
Thanks for all the hard work getting the forum back up. Have a question, perhaps Easywriter can address.
Last month, JQK said on Greta that KJ said she was NOT leaving next month, and would be there into next year. Jossy said in the DP interview that KJ was "still leaving next month" and they had not talked to the man who was replacing her.
Is this KJ's annual 2 week vacation to Holland? Or is she leaving for good? Did she lie to JQK? Or to Jossy? Why?
Thanks.
Great question!
I sat there wondering why the hxxx Greta didn't do a follow up question on that.
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klaasend
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Quote from: "LouiseVargas"
Thank you, Justins, for trying to answer my nagging questions.
Hotshot, if you saw such (if not THE) spillway in Aruba, is that the only spillway in Aruba? Hotshot, did you personally take the pics we are now looking at online?
Are spillways hidden or out in the open?
Sorry for nagging but no one is saying how many spillways Aruba has and if they are hidden or out in the open.
Once I can get my questions answered, then I can contemplate further on the bag in the spillway.
In my year here at Scared Monkeys, I have never before nagged you to death about any issue.
I live near a big dam, the William Mulholland / Hollywood Reservoir dam. It is huge. But I'm a moron when it comes to spillways.
Somebody please help me.
Louise, this particular Drainage Inlet is out in the open. Take a look at the satellite photo I've posted:
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=3
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