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« Reply #860 on: June 30, 2006, 06:23:17 PM »
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There is nothing indicating that this Columbian witness is a gardener of any kind.  It's been mentioned on other sites that he may be a construction worker.  

The original gardener witness has been accused of working for Jossy and JR.


 I thought we were talking about the original gardner.... I am confused...
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« Reply #861 on: June 30, 2006, 06:24:12 PM »
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There is nothing indicating that this Columbian witness is a gardener of any kind.  It's been mentioned on other sites that he may be a construction worker.  

The original gardener witness has been accused of working for Jossy and JR.


 I thought we were talking about the original gardner.... I am confused...


So am I, lol  Laughing  Laughing
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« Reply #862 on: June 30, 2006, 06:24:17 PM »
OK>.. I am really outta here.... bye monkeys

TTYL... keep the faith!
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« Reply #863 on: June 30, 2006, 06:27:14 PM »
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Mermaid, is that recipe for corn/blackbean salsa  in the Monkey cook book?

If not, can you post it?  I would love to make that.

Anybody seen Beans today?  I have a Runza-related question.

Pardon me for being off topic.


Heh girl -

I'm here for a few... gotta go to a barbeque.  Just got back into town... went to Lincoln.  Hope I can anwer it!!


How many of those loaves of frozen bread do I need for the 1 lb of hamburger?
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« Reply #864 on: June 30, 2006, 06:29:25 PM »
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There is nothing indicating that this Columbian witness is a gardener of any kind.  It's been mentioned on other sites that he may be a construction worker.  

The original gardener witness has been accused of working for Jossy and JR.


 I thought we were talking about the original gardner.... I am confused...


So am I, lol  Laughing  Laughing


Holy cow!  I thought it was just me.
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« Reply #865 on: June 30, 2006, 06:30:06 PM »
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You think you are confused...
my last post said Mr. Wards thread  could you please change that to
Mr. Woods thread Embarassed  Rolling Eyes
So Many players and no program card to follow and I get  Confused
TIA
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« Reply #866 on: June 30, 2006, 06:30:36 PM »
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Ok... some of us seem to recall that the gardner worked for Julia.... and some recall he supposedly worked for jossy....

but dang that makes the gardner credible if they were near there...  Shocked


Now, are we talking about the original gardner who said he saw the boys in the car that night?
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« Reply #867 on: June 30, 2006, 06:34:44 PM »
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Ok... some of us seem to recall that the gardner worked for Julia.... and some recall he supposedly worked for jossy....

but dang that makes the gardner credible if they were near there...  Shocked


Now, are we talking about the original gardner who said he saw the boys in the car that night?


that was what I thought... but in any event, the thing is that that map would make the first gardner a little more credible... IMO...

remember every single person assoicated with this has been "discredited" in soe way including Helen Ljuenez (sp) who was called mentally distrubed by julia... I mean at this point anything is possible..
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« Reply #868 on: June 30, 2006, 06:34:46 PM »
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Klaasend
You think you are confused...
my last post said Mr. Wards thread  could you please change that to
Mr. Woods thread Embarassed  Rolling Eyes
So Many players and no program card to follow and I get  Confused
TIA


Fixed  Laughing
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« Reply #869 on: June 30, 2006, 06:37:12 PM »
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Mermaid, is that recipe for corn/blackbean salsa  in the Monkey cook book?

If not, can you post it?  I would love to make that.

Anybody seen Beans today?  I have a Runza-related question.

Pardon me for being off topic.


Heh girl -

I'm here for a few... gotta go to a barbeque.  Just got back into town... went to Lincoln.  Hope I can anwer it!!


How many of those loaves of frozen bread do I need for the 1 lb of hamburger?


LOL  Looking... BRB   Laughing
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« Reply #870 on: June 30, 2006, 06:37:46 PM »
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Ok... some of us seem to recall that the gardner worked for Julia.... and some recall he supposedly worked for jossy....

but dang that makes the gardner credible if they were near there...  Shocked


Now, are we talking about the original gardner who said he saw the boys in the car that night?

Okay, the way I understand things:
1) The original person to see 3 boys in a car near the pond at the Racquet Club was a "gardner." Unclear who employed him -- either a Mansur or Julia Renfro
2) The recent "detainee" was a witness to Joran carrying and raping Natalee at the beach. He is a "Columbian", an "Illegal' and a "Construction Worker."
The 2 are unrelated.
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« Reply #871 on: June 30, 2006, 06:39:06 PM »
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Ok... some of us seem to recall that the gardner worked for Julia.... and some recall he supposedly worked for jossy....

but dang that makes the gardner credible if they were near there...  Shocked


Now, are we talking about the original gardner who said he saw the boys in the car that night?

Okay, the way I understand things:
1) The original person to see 3 boys in a car near the pond at the Racquet Club was a "gardner." Unclear who employed him -- either a Mansur or Julia Renfro
2) The recent "detainee" was a witness to Joran carrying and raping Natalee at the beach. He is a "Columbian", an "Illegal' and a "Construction Worker."
The 2 are unrelated.

Wreck
that is my take also...   thank you... Smile
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« Reply #872 on: June 30, 2006, 06:40:45 PM »
Beans, my frozen bread isn't rising fast enough.

For the casserole, it says bake at 300.  For how long?
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« Reply #873 on: June 30, 2006, 06:40:45 PM »
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Ok... some of us seem to recall that the gardner worked for Julia.... and some recall he supposedly worked for jossy....

but dang that makes the gardner credible if they were near there...  Shocked


Now, are we talking about the original gardner who said he saw the boys in the car that night?


that was what I thought... but in any event, the thing is that that map would make the first gardner a little more credible... IMO...


Well, if that's the case, I seem to remember the initial reports were he was employed by Jossy.  At least again...that's what I remember.  Anyone know any different?
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« Reply #874 on: June 30, 2006, 06:42:47 PM »
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Ok... some of us seem to recall that the gardner worked for Julia.... and some recall he supposedly worked for jossy....

but dang that makes the gardner credible if they were near there...  Shocked


Now, are we talking about the original gardner who said he saw the boys in the car that night?

Okay, the way I understand things:
1) The original person to see 3 boys in a car near the pond at the Racquet Club was a "gardner." Unclear who employed him -- either a Mansur or Julia Renfro
2) The recent "detainee" was a witness to Joran carrying and raping Natalee at the beach. He is a "Columbian", an "Illegal' and a "Construction Worker."
The 2 are unrelated.

Wreck
that is my take also...   thank you... Smile


Yeah, but now can't we pretty much eliminate the 2nd "witness" (who's admitted to lying) in this equation?  As far as I know, the gardner was never found to be lying...was he?
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« Reply #875 on: June 30, 2006, 06:43:46 PM »
but what if the Columbian did work as a gardner because he couldn't get anything else?  and if he did work for Julia... then it explains a lot...
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« Reply #876 on: June 30, 2006, 06:44:27 PM »
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Now, are we talking about the original gardner who said he saw the boys in the car that night?

Okay, the way I understand things:
1) The original person to see 3 boys in a car near the pond at the Racquet Club was a "gardner." Unclear who employed him -- either a Mansur or Julia Renfro
2) The recent "detainee" was a witness to Joran carrying and raping Natalee at the beach. He is a "Columbian", an "Illegal' and a "Construction Worker."
The 2 are unrelated.[/quote]

The original gardner witness was employed by Eric Mansur.  His SIL was vd Straatens secretary.
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« Reply #877 on: June 30, 2006, 06:45:36 PM »
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Yeah, but now can't we pretty much eliminate the 2nd "witness" (who's admitted to lying) in this equation? As far as I know, the gardner was never found to be lying...was he?


Well, they are SAYING he admitted to lying. Me? --- I wouldn't be so quick to believe ANYTHING they claim now. Was he "PURSUADED" to change his story????? Who Knows?!!!!?
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« Reply #878 on: June 30, 2006, 06:46:16 PM »
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Yeah, but now can't we pretty much eliminate the 2nd "witness" (who's admitted to lying) in this equation? As far as I know, the gardner was never found to be lying...was he?


Well, they are SAYING he admitted to lying. Me? --- I wouldn't be so quick to believe ANYTHING they claim now. Was he "PURSUADED" to change his story????? Who Knows?!!!!?


which is what I am getting at...
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« Reply #879 on: June 30, 2006, 06:48:07 PM »
no spell check... "persuade" maybe?
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