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« Reply #140 on: August 27, 2007, 01:53:59 PM »

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« Reply #141 on: August 27, 2007, 02:05:24 PM »

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I talk to Koen G and he said yea that was him.
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On 7/21/2005, 9:14:48 PM, Gennifer wrote:

Hey...I was looking at some of my friend's pics and i asked her who the boy in the blue was with a drink and she said it was you...it was from a birthday party. I was just wandering if it was you if so i was just wanting to chat with you! Can't wait to here from you.

hey...yeah thats me..at my friends b-day party..so yeah if you wanna add me on hotmail its..koeng61@hotmail.com

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He already wrote me back...I am still working on him trying to get him to talk...

On 7/24/2005, 11:35:28, Gennifer wrote:

I bet you are tired of the attention your getting down there....Has it been rough on you? I seen you in some pictures with Joran too...I know that has to suck..you know haveing a buddy that you know didn't do anything...being the main suspect in everyone's eyes? I had the same thing happen with me and one of my friends..but of course it wasn't as major or all over the T.V. Well i got to go but if you ever want to talk to vent it out. Let me know...I almost think the whole thing is just silly. what about you?



yeah a little but now im in america doing fun thing to get my head out of this situation...but i would like to get to know you better and stuf...i also think its verry silly i know this guy for over 14 years now and he would never hurt any girl so i dont know why he's still locked up
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« Reply #142 on: August 27, 2007, 02:07:34 PM »

SILLY?  He thinks it's silly!
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« Reply #143 on: August 27, 2007, 02:18:21 PM »

SILLY?  He thinks it's silly!

Joran thought the boycott was stilly also. Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #144 on: August 27, 2007, 02:26:13 PM »

Silly, perhaps.  Did it work?  You bet your sweet a**.  We must keep the pressure to keep it working.  Let the Aruban rats and hagbags know we can outlast them.
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« Reply #145 on: August 27, 2007, 02:30:26 PM »

I think there are some clues throughout the investigation in the timing of events and who implicated who. I will always be suspicious of what happened to this man as well as Pitbull. Where is the PV of LVR on june 16th 2005?

Thursday, June 16
??? am............Steve G. Croes goes to police station and is questioned
???..................Steve G. Croes goes to work @ Tattoo boat
???..................Lorenzo van Rijn questioned by police
????................Max Arendsz questioned by police

Friday, June 17
6:30 am.........Steve Gregory Croes arrested

Saturday, June 18
8:00 am.........Rene van Heyningen found murdered “Columbian necktie”
.......................van Heyningen’s body dumped in government cemetery

???..................Paulus & Anita van der Sloot questioned by police for 5 hours
???..................Sergio Gomez reported missing
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« Reply #146 on: August 27, 2007, 02:41:11 PM »

My focus is, and shall remain, on the main suspects until there is some concrete evidence other than blog rumor to look elsewhere.

Those suspects remain J2K and are the ones to this day named by KLPD as the prime suspects.  I think Joran van der Sloot, the two Kalpoes and Paulus are the ones responsible for whatever happened to Natalee as well as her subsequent disappearance.

I think most things that take the focus off those suspects are diversions as I have looked for over two years and can't make a contact to anybody who is not named as a suspect, including the other PIMPS named as suspects.

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« Reply #147 on: August 27, 2007, 02:43:50 PM »

I hav no idea the involvement of anyone other than J2K, but appears there must be someone/something bigger involved, thus all the coverup.  No, I am not sure it stems from a rave party at LVR but it never hurts to leave no stone unturned.  There is a reason why all the island is defending these PIMPS and it is not because of Joran's good looks or the social standing of the Kalpoes.
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« Reply #148 on: August 27, 2007, 02:44:34 PM »

Silly, perhaps.  Did it work?  You bet your sweet a**.  We must keep the pressure to keep it working.  Let the Aruban rats and hagbags know we can outlast them.


I can't fathom any young man or boy using the word 'silly'. I know mine never has. I think it is weird.
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« Reply #149 on: August 27, 2007, 02:45:50 PM »

So are you guys thinking this DJ Andres is actually Andres Meneses?  It sure would make more sense.

It seems they all assume aliases, sign of a criminal culture, and I would not be surprised and suspect this is the case.
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« Reply #150 on: August 27, 2007, 02:46:03 PM »

Silly, perhaps.  Did it work?  You bet your sweet a**.  We must keep the pressure to keep it working.  Let the Aruban rats and hagbags know we can outlast them.


I can't fathom any young man or boy using the word 'silly'. I know mine never has. I think it is weird.

oops...4got to add...
Not that there is anything wrong with that ...  Wink Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #151 on: August 27, 2007, 02:51:46 PM »

My focus is, and shall remain, on the main suspects until there is some concrete evidence other than blog rumor to look elsewhere.

Those suspects remain J2K and are the ones to this day named by KLPD as the prime suspects.  I think Joran van der Sloot, the two Kalpoes and Paulus are the ones responsible for whatever happened to Natalee as well as her subsequent disappearance.

I think most things that take the focus off those suspects are diversions as I have looked for over two years and can't make a contact to anybody who is not named as a suspect, including the other PIMPS named as suspects.

JMO

You have stated your opinion 1,000 times on LVR and it is noted. I also feel that JK2 and PVDS are the main suspect but I believe LVR is involved and I will always research every avenue I have with everyone and anyone who is involved with Natalees dissapearance. I dont think LVR is disinformation and if anything they have tried to distance him from this case.MO
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« Reply #152 on: August 27, 2007, 02:52:16 PM »

I think there are some clues throughout the investigation in the timing of events and who implicated who. I will always be suspicious of what happened to this man as well as Pitbull. Where is the PV of LVR on june 16th 2005?

Thursday, June 16
??? am............Steve G. Croes goes to police station and is questioned
???..................Steve G. Croes goes to work @ Tattoo boat
???..................Lorenzo van Rijn questioned by police
????................Max Arendsz questioned by police

Friday, June 17
6:30 am.........Steve Gregory Croes arrested

Saturday, June 18
8:00 am.........Rene van Heyningen found murdered “Columbian necktie”
.......................van Heyningen’s body dumped in government cemetery

???..................Paulus & Anita van der Sloot questioned by police for 5 hours
???..................Sergio Gomez reported missing


Interesting observation.  The timing is what makes it even more interesting.  I wish we had a pic of the macho woman who as able to lift a dead man's body into a truck and lift it out of the truck later at the cemetery.

I think Gomez was eventually located wasn't he?
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« Reply #153 on: August 27, 2007, 02:56:55 PM »

Many things throughout this case disturb me and just one more was added to the list today...Heli made a post a BFN. I am sure it is Heli from RU. That disturbs me.  just had to get that off my chest.
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« Reply #154 on: August 27, 2007, 03:08:23 PM »

is there a link to the codebreaker theory or whatever it is?  Sorry, but I have have looked here, there and everywhere..
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« Reply #155 on: August 27, 2007, 03:10:04 PM »

I think there are some clues throughout the investigation in the timing of events and who implicated who. I will always be suspicious of what happened to this man as well as Pitbull. Where is the PV of LVR on June 16th 2005?

Thursday, June 16
??? am............Steve G. Croes goes to police station and is questioned
???..................Steve G. Croes goes to work @ Tattoo boat
???..................Lorenzo van Rijn questioned by police
????................Max Arendsz questioned by police

Friday, June 17
6:30 am.........Steve Gregory Croes arrested

Saturday, June 18
8:00 am.........Rene van Heyningen found murdered “Columbian necktie”
.......................van Heyningen’s body dumped in government cemetery

???..................Paulus & Anita van der Sloot questioned by police for 5 hours
???..................Sergio Gomez reported missing


Interesting observation.  The timing is what makes it even more interesting.  I wish we had a pic of the macho woman who as able to lift a dead man's body into a truck and lift it out of the truck later at the cemetery.

I think Gomez was eventually located wasn't he?

Gomez was located and macho woman I believe implicated two other men who had helped but no one else was arrested. Both families complained to the media and after that arrests were made. Extremely suspicious murders..IMO
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« Reply #156 on: August 27, 2007, 03:14:36 PM »

is there a link to the codebreaker theory or whatever it is?  Sorry, but I have have looked here, there and everywhere..


It is easier to read like this, rather than at the site. It was posted at BFN.

Codebreaker @ BFN Natalee Holloway-Open Discussion
Reply #508 on: August 25, 2007, 11:41:34 AM
the bruise was caused by a wreck on his bike , while talking to 2ks, while returning from Flor's house at2{26am with a key, to take Natalee's body to.IMO.
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Reply #512 on: August 25, 2007, 04:15:48 PM
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I've never written on any blogs before, but I want to get my opinion on Natalee's murder and her location, based on facts only. I can tell you
now, she was in 4 different places, and I also know the addresses, and
buoy numbers, of these places.
She was murdered at Salinja Pond at around 1:20 am, then hided in barb bushes, jvds is the one that killed her with a rock to her head, she bled
profusely, this is how jvds got blood on his legs and shoes, and how he transfered blood in 2ks backseat area, that's why they stopped at Marriott
entrance, so jvds could wash off blood, 2ks waited for him, then dropped
jvds at home at1:45 am, 2ks got home at 2:05am, to pick up tools to bury
her with. but before they got to jvds's house, jvds disposed of shoes in
vicinty of Fermins Bar. When jvds told pvds what happen, pvds called Guido
at work, and hired him to get rid of the body, that's when guido called andre,
to bring his truck,they would be paid well, jvds called Flor to give him a key
to French's Steakhouse, 55 J.E.Irausquin blvd. this is in vicinity of Abhambra
pvds loaded jvds bike in back of jeep, and dropped jvds off at Flor's house with
bike, pvds headed for ATMs until 4:00am.. will continue later
codebreaker
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Bleachedblack asks: Can you please tell us more about the purpose of this key? Why would they need to go to this Steakhouse?
Reply #519 on: August 25, 2007, 06:39:31 PM
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because it was closed, and has a walk in cooler, plus most likey closed on mon.
also the body was removed mon. night.

Reply #532 on: August 25, 2007, 10:16:43 PM
When jvds was dropped off at Flor's house, he picked up a key and
rode his bike back, at 2:26am he called 2ks to meet him at the pond
at this time he had a wreck on the bike,this explains the static that dk heard plus the bruise seen next day by his classmates. sk was driving, when jvds pulled up on his bike, sk jumped in back so  jvds could tell dk the plan. and they can't go because his car was too noisy, at this time around 2:35am, the gardener
drove by, at 2:40am, guido and andre pull up, 2ks head for home, at 2:45am
the body is loaded.2:45am jvds sends textmsg to 2ks that they were on their
way(the barb bushes was reason for scratches) at 3:00am the 2ks get home.
at 3:05am dk gets textmsg that body was delivered, at 3:11am jvds sends
textmsg to Flor telling her same messg.
                    Meetings
The first meeting was held at the Racquet club at 6:00pm mon,,5/30/05,
with Koen,Sander,Flor,Freddy,Amanda, Gilayla, so they could get their stories
straight, and when they would be paid, Koen and Sander were told to help
pvds steal the Crab Trap from Fishermans Huts later that night.
The second meeting was 8:00pm that night at Radisson Casino,with DK,
guido, Andre,Beto, also to get stories straight, also when they get paid..
also after 11:00pm pick up Natalee's body, and return jvds's house.
This is when DK,pvds,jvds, were burying the body next to the house, that
they were interrupted by Beth& Jug, and were sent on a wild goose chase,
so Dk and pvds could get the car moved, so nobody would have an excuse
to enter the prop. when the body was buried next to his house the two dogs were
digging up the body, jvds didn't go to school next day, body had to be moved inside, and put in freezer, prepare for final place. this also explains
new patio cement work
                         Alibis and Movies
2ks were seen cleaning the car on 5/30/05 next morning, but couldn't
removed all blood, he took his car to Automobile enterprise, to get it
detailed and replace seats if needed, then he went back to Pond area.
and police the area, (he was seen doing this by a witness, for T.J. Ward)
he took the C&C logo cups placed by entrance Marriott, drove to Arahi beach
to mark his spot(urinate), then took her under pants,condoms, tape, and
wrappers from condoms to Bird Sanctuary, to mis lead police.
jvds protrays himself after Richard Kuklinski (the Ice Man of N.J.) when you read the police car tapes,he calls the 2KS Friend after each sentence, and
at the end tells them he's going to kill them. he also kelp bodies in freezers.
this was his MO. he also was a sociopath
S. Croes is not involved, when he heard pvds had deep pockets, and paying
all the Pimps, he jump on the bandwagon.
2ks don't know where's Natalee's body is at..
why did pvds send two younger sons to Florida, when he got arrested??
On 6/3/05 fri. at 9:00pm Beto, koen, Sander, met at jvds's apt., and eat
pizza, and played cards, getting ready for a boat ride,after midnight they
got to Container Harbour, they were at berth #5, this is were they unload
containers import,export all weekdays, they are left open on weekends. so
 they can park mega cruise ships if needed, it's 820 ft. long, water is 32 to
36ft. deep, her hands were put into 2.5gal. her head also was put into a 2.5
gal. bucket  the hands were dropped at center of this dock by marker#5.
they travel north est. 200ft.then dropped her head and still went north
and dropped her body #45 buoy or marker, this is a channel and protected
from waves, they could have used a small boat?? oars or ele. motor, very quite..
Beto works part time for Caribbean overseas, very familiar with area.
koen,sander have boating experience.
I hope no one gets offended
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Reply #538 on: August 25, 2007, 11:05:06 PM
the family was informed by me in dec. of this location, but I
didn't have the marker numbers, my in fo comes from the liar of aruba,
and even they can't lie without 10% truth, it's easier to search a channel
or dock than an ocean, if it was your daughter what would you do.
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THAT"S FLOR she is the weak link, without a doubt???
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Rtst1 asks...
According to your account, Beto, Koen & Sander are the ones who would have knowledge of the bouy or marker numbers.  Was anyone else with them at Container Harbor...?

Reply #545 on: Today at 12:16:19 AM » 

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only jvds that I know of..
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Anna states:
I don't think Joran wanting to be like the Iceman meant that he was a planned executioner, just that he admired this monster's detachment and ability to kill without emotion.

Sort of like doing so then going home and looking up soccer scores and watching porn, I guess.  Going to school next day and giving the appearance of total normalcy.

Also the use of cold storage.

The ability to dissociate from the crime.  Unfortunately for Joran, I think that is exactly how many see him.  I know I do.

Reply #589 on: Today at 01:40:11 PM
you hit the nail right on the head, this was a planned rape only..codebreaker
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« Reply #157 on: August 27, 2007, 03:17:30 PM »

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!
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« Reply #158 on: August 27, 2007, 03:21:10 PM »

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Dutch radio just said it's a 20 year old guy

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& Sander …………….


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« Reply #159 on: August 27, 2007, 03:25:34 PM »

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!


You're welcome. Going out 4 a while, bbl.
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