Natalee Case Discussion #679 8/26 - 8/31/2007

[klaasend]

This is actually pretty funny.  Glenda has finally posted over at RU and her post was immediately contradicted by an interview of Joe T.:   

Glenda wrote:

The ALE had no records from any of Natalee's Family. They asked for her Year Book with an official international request of help in investigation and are still in waiting.

Americans don't seem to understand, the Aruban Authorities had no access to anything from MB, much less very important phone records that they were denied and still waiting access to.

Trixie wrote:

But then why would Joe T. say that he had seen them?

Bubbles wrote:

He not only saw them, he had them in his hands at one time when speaking.

AC wrote:   :wink:

Joe

I don't know, it shows the state of their investigation. they're looking at the speculation about the possiblity of an overdose. They're asking in this letter about that, phone calls from Twitty to Natalee

Greta:

She's asking about the trip that Beth Twitty made while Natalee was in aruba, all the phone calls made and received from her phone line and cell phone

Joe

We have phone records that reflect something quite contrary to what she's been saying about calls to/from her daughter.

Greta:

Extraordinarily perplexing...why a certified copy of Natalee's year book?

JOe

they are looking into the prospect she's a runaway, the students had talked about it...it sounds like I'm throwing things out, but these are Karin's words, they ask did Natalee ever run away from home when did it happen, did she make plans to meet a boy in Aruba.

Greta:

[sb]

Plus, the newspaper reporting from the island has a very poor track record of accuracy. The article simply means NOTHING.

A handful of people, up against a sovereign nation, will always have a VERY hard time trying to win the day. Natalee's family has always faced long odds in this fight. The full weight of a nation sold over to the Mafia and to the worldwide drugs-porno-gambling machine has been brought to bear on this case. And I repeat again that the Dutch are NOT, NOT, NOT on the side of Natalee's family here, they will find NO help there. As much as I want to be like robots and think that the Dutch will help, I know deep down that they won't and have never had any intentions of doing so. The KLPD thing is a diversion.

[igsigs]

   @ Glenda    >  Did the maroons thank her yet? I love that...

Glenda posts: J2K are no longer suspects!

Idiot #1: Thank you Glenda!

Idiot #2: Why are they digging up the Sloot compound?

Glenda:  

Siddalee: The dig is to exculpate Joran!

Idiot chorus: That make sense! Glenda was right! Thank you!  

Glenda:  

[klaasend]

 @ Glenda    >  Did the maroons thank her yet? I love that...

Glenda posts: J2K are no longer suspects!

Idiot #1: Thank you Glenda!

Idiot #2: Why are they digging up the Sloot compound?

Glenda:  

Siddalee: The dig is to exculpate Joran!

Idiot chorus: That make sense! Glenda was right! Thank you!  

Glenda:  

The problem with Glenda is that people aren't affraid to prove her wong now, even at RU 

[igsigs]

ALE can't deny KLPD's return, say they don't need them...and then close the case.

There's an indication! What do y'all think? Any buyers?

[klaasend]

ALE can't deny KLPD's return, say they don't need them...and then close the case.

There's an indication! What do y'all think? Any buyers?

Not sure what ALE or the Prosecutor's office will TRY to do.  I can tell you this, if they do try to tell the KLPD to "bug off" and close the case against the KLPD's recommendation, they will be unleashing a storm.

[robots]

ALE can't deny KLPD's return, say they don't need them...and then close the case.

There's an indication! What do y'all think? Any buyers?

Not sure what ALE or the Prosecutor's office will TRY to do.  I can tell you this, if they do try to tell the KLPD to "bug off" and close the case against the KLPD's recommendation, they will be unleashing a storm.

 

[igsigs]

ALE can't deny KLPD's return, say they don't need them...and then close the case.

There's an indication! What do y'all think? Any buyers?

Not sure what ALE or the Prosecutor's office will TRY to do.  I can tell you this, if they do try to tell the KLPD to "bug off" and close the case against the KLPD's recommendation, they will be unleashing a storm.

I think we agree, kinda.

One thing i look forward to...never having to read an Aruban paper again. It's brutal!

[NYC_lover]

ALE can't deny KLPD's return, say they don't need them...and then close the case.

There's an indication! What do y'all think? Any buyers?

Not sure what ALE or the Prosecutor's office will TRY to do.  I can tell you this, if they do try to tell the KLPD to "bug off" and close the case against the KLPD's recommendation, they will be unleashing a storm.

Well, I think what KLPD and ALE does is very strange, ALE give KLPD the research and what in the Netherlands, this case get to be silent. And just come in Opsporing Verzocht was come with a bit facts. Hello ALE AND KLPD we talk about A DISAPPEARED CASE and not about spoliation.

[klaasend]

ALE can't deny KLPD's return, say they don't need them...and then close the case.

There's an indication! What do y'all think? Any buyers?

Not sure what ALE or the Prosecutor's office will TRY to do.  I can tell you this, if they do try to tell the KLPD to "bug off" and close the case against the KLPD's recommendation, they will be unleashing a storm.

Well, I think what KLPD and ALE does is very strange, ALE give KLPD the research and what in the Netherlands, this case get to be silent. And just come in Opsporing Verzocht was come with a bit facts. Hello ALE AND KLPD we talk about A DISAPPEARED CASE and not about spoliation.

Keep in mind the only side we are hearing from is ALE via Bondia.  Both have been known to lie and make false statements.  I really don't place much importance on that Bondia article.

[crazybabyborg]

ALE can't deny KLPD's return, say they don't need them...and then close the case.

There's an indication! What do y'all think? Any buyers?

Not sure what ALE or the Prosecutor's office will TRY to do.  I can tell you this, if they do try to tell the KLPD to "bug off" and close the case against the KLPD's recommendation, they will be unleashing a storm.

 We'll call it Hurricane Natalee!

[crazybabyborg]

The date for Beth's Book release is October, right? There will be some interviews stemming from the release, I'm sure. The timing is good. If they try to drop this case, the circumstances will be fresh in everyone's mind.

Sounds like a perscription to hit tourism hard, to me. I hope that Aruba thinks this through.

[NYC_lover]

ALE can't deny KLPD's return, say they don't need them...and then close the case.

There's an indication! What do y'all think? Any buyers?

Not sure what ALE or the Prosecutor's office will TRY to do.  I can tell you this, if they do try to tell the KLPD to "bug off" and close the case against the KLPD's recommendation, they will be unleashing a storm.

Well, I think what KLPD and ALE does is very strange, ALE give KLPD the research and what in the Netherlands, this case get to be silent. And just come in Opsporing Verzocht was come with a bit facts. Hello ALE AND KLPD we talk about A DISAPPEARED CASE and not about spoliation.

Keep in mind the only side we are hearing from is ALE via Bondia.  Both have been known to lie and make false statements.  I really don't place much importance on that Bondia article.

I think u are right Klaasend. ALE, (and maybe KLPD) sees some disinformation.

[wreck]

ALE can't deny KLPD's return, say they don't need them...and then close the case.

There's an indication! What do y'all think? Any buyers?

Not sure what ALE or the Prosecutor's office will TRY to do.  I can tell you this, if they do try to tell the KLPD to "bug off" and close the case against the KLPD's recommendation, they will be unleashing a storm.

 We'll call it Hurricane Natalee!

I think many here still miss the point that the FBI is working WITH the KLPD. The "veil of secrecy" is broken. As much as Aruba may THINK they can sweep this under the rug -- they can't. I have no doubt Aruba will TRY to obfuscate -- but Pandora's Box is already open. ......... The most troubling aspect of all of this is it isn't gonna end by November  -- this is simply too big. 

[crazybabyborg]

Wreck? Do we know for sure that the FBI is working with the Dutch and to what extent they have been allowed to do so?

I'm not challenging your statement at all! I've just missed the specifics. TIA.

[wreck]

Wreck? Do we know for sure that the FBI is working with the Dutch and to what extent they have been allowed to do so?

I'm not challenging your statement at all! I've just missed the specifics. TIA.

I take Dave Holloway's word that he says the FBI is working WITH KLPD and he is getting weekly updates.

[igsigs]

Wreck? Do we know for sure that the FBI is working with the Dutch and to what extent they have been allowed to do so?

I'm not challenging your statement at all! I've just missed the specifics. TIA.

not wreck, but...

Dave H. said he gets weekly updates from the FBI, that they are working with the KLPD and that attempts to disrupt the relationship have not worked.

[wreck]

Wreck? Do we know for sure that the FBI is working with the Dutch and to what extent they have been allowed to do so?

I'm not challenging your statement at all! I've just missed the specifics. TIA.

not wreck, but...

Dave H. said he gets weekly updates from the FBI, that they are working with the KLPD and that attempts to disrupt the relationship have not worked.

If you take Dave's statements about the FBI involvement along with weekly updates -- add to this that Dave and Robin have sort of asked us to "stand down" -- and it supports my "hunch" that the family has been informed of the "outcome." I still think that the only "hold-up" is finalizing the "corruption" angle. That's why Aruba is "still in the dark." -- JMHO

[igsigs]

If you take Dave's statements about the FBI involvement along with weekly updates -- add to this that Dave and Robin have sort of asked us to "stand down" -- and it supports my "hunch" that the family has been informed of the "outcome." I still think that the only "hold-up" is finalizing the "corruption" angle. That's why Aruba is "still in the dark." -- JMHO

This all sounds good. The "stand down" thingy was confusing...considering Dave's pointed (& highly effective) accusations on Geraldo. Maybe that was just incident specific, though.

[crazybabyborg]

That IS encouraging. Thanks for reminding me! I had forgotten Dave's statements.