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Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #679 8/26 - 8/31/2007 (Read 270060 times)
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #679 8/26 - 8/29/2007
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DANG! Is anyone else impressed? Someone has a question about when the Internet Cafe closed, and Kermit posted the actual sign on the door!
You guys are GOOD!!
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Quote from: crazybabyborg on August 30, 2007, 11:42:31 AM
DANG! Is anyone else impressed? Someone has a question about when the Internet Cafe closed, and Kermit posted the actual sign on the door!
You guys are GOOD!!
I'm impressed that a frog knows how to use photobucket
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Thank You, Kermit. 10PM closing is in line with Satish' 5/31, 6/10 and 6/11 PVs. Wonder why Deepak says 11PM.?
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Was reading Hammer's recent post in Theories thread and then started to look around. Found some older posts on visitaruba guestbook, which I'm sure I read long ago....noticed that June 22, 2005 was last message, then it starts again in July and continues....some were deleted, I am sure. Anyway, I found a Hammer posted there.
http://www.visitaruba.com/guestbook/guests2005.html
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #679 8/26 - 8/29/2007
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Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on August 30, 2007, 11:55:49 AM
Was reading Hammer's recent post in Theories thread and then started to look around. Found some older posts on visitaruba guestbook, which I'm sure I read long ago....noticed that June 22, 2005 was last message, then it starts again in July and continues....some were deleted, I am sure. Anyway, I found a Hammer posted there.
http://www.visitaruba.com/guestbook/guests2005.html
also from this site was a post about the Allegro, which I thought was closed for renovation, but the post says only a portion was under construction....not sure how factual (also think he meant he was there 4/3/05):
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05 May 2005
19:29:30
yes allegro is remoleding on the 6&7 floor on the beach front all you can hear is jackhammering all day,i just got bach on 4/3/04 i'm not at all happy i call down there to see if there was any work going on they told me no. so if you going to allegro go to south tower side you will be ok
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #679 8/26 - 8/29/2007
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Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on August 30, 2007, 12:05:32 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on August 30, 2007, 11:55:49 AM
Was reading Hammer's recent post in Theories thread and then started to look around. Found some older posts on visitaruba guestbook, which I'm sure I read long ago....noticed that June 22, 2005 was last message, then it starts again in July and continues....some were deleted, I am sure. Anyway, I found a Hammer posted there.
http://www.visitaruba.com/guestbook/guests2005.html
also from this site was a post about the Allegro, which I thought was closed for renovation, but the post says only a portion was under construction....not sure how factual (also think he meant he was there 4/3/05):
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05 May 2005
19:29:30
yes allegro is remoleding on the 6&7 floor on the beach front all you can hear is jackhammering all day,i just got bach on 4/3/04 i'm not at all happy i call down there to see if there was any work going on they told me no. so if you going to allegro go to south tower side you will be ok
roflmfao, and you had expected an honest answer to that question? look at these pictures of a beautiful bridge i'm having to sell to pay for my mother's hernia operation.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #679 8/26 - 8/29/2007
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Does anyone know if it's possible that if the KLPD is working with the FBI that in November they may concurrently close the case and immediately extradite the suspects to the U.S. for trial?
I read that this is possible under some treaty arrangement that makes this possible. Does anyone know?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #679 8/26 - 8/29/2007
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August 30, 2007, 12:39:17 PM »
Quote from: dennisintn on August 30, 2007, 12:11:25 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on August 30, 2007, 12:05:32 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on August 30, 2007, 11:55:49 AM
Was reading Hammer's recent post in Theories thread and then started to look around. Found some older posts on visitaruba guestbook, which I'm sure I read long ago....noticed that June 22, 2005 was last message, then it starts again in July and continues....some were deleted, I am sure. Anyway, I found a Hammer posted there.
http://www.visitaruba.com/guestbook/guests2005.html
also from this site was a post about the Allegro, which I thought was closed for renovation, but the post says only a portion was under construction....not sure how factual (also think he meant he was there 4/3/05):
ed
eddiejjohnson@aol.com
05 May 2005
19:29:30
yes allegro is remoleding on the 6&7 floor on the beach front all you can hear is jackhammering all day,i just got bach on 4/3/04 i'm not at all happy i call down there to see if there was any work going on they told me no. so if you going to allegro go to south tower side you will be ok
roflmfao, and you had expected an honest answer to that question? look at these pictures of a beautiful bridge i'm having to sell to pay for my mother's hernia operation.
dammitdennis
I found this posted about the Allegro. It was posted on June 5th, 2005.
<
otherad...@yahoo.com
> wrote in message
> It could be that there is a connection between the 3 men and the
> security guards... maybe something happened on the beach and the guards
> helped them dispose of the body? But that seems unnecessarily
> complicated.
> If there was no connection, maybe she wandered over to the other hotel
> to use their casino? The Allegro was only a few minutes away and
> despite the renovations the casino was open. It seems unlikely that
> she would have just been grabbed off the street in front of her hotel
> right after being dropped off.
> They said something on Fox about witnesses alerting police to
> suspicious activity at the Allegro after her disapperance, people
> coming and going even tho it was closed.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #679 8/26 - 8/29/2007
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Quote from: Frank on August 30, 2007, 12:18:13 PM
Does anyone know if it's possible that if the KLPD is working with the FBI that in November they may concurrently close the case and immediately extradite the suspects to the U.S. for trial?
I read that this is possible under some treaty arrangement that makes this possible. Does anyone know?
Frank -- Art Wood (or maybe Dave, referencing Art Wood) implied something about a treaty and it may be along these lines. It may even have been mentioned during an interview on SM/Dana radio.
It is on my long list of things to find and check out when I can. (Unless klaas or Dana remember what I am referring to and can point me to the statement)
Sorry I'm not more of a help.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #679 8/26 - 8/29/2007
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Art Wood Part 2 Of Our Discussion On the Holloway case.
http://bruinfan.sasktelwebsite.net/
Saturday, July 8, 2006
PRE-SHOW Questions from Callers:
Caller #1- Where comment that blood in K2 vehicle came from - what is the proof?
Caller #2- Ask about ATM redrawals that Paulus supposedly made?
Caller #3- When Jossy was on, he commented about a 7 year old boy at painted rocks area - did not add up as painting was a year ago - ask Art about the painted rock.
Caller #4- You are doing a great job, we appreciate what you are doing.
Caller #5- There was the letter asking that KJ and Dompig be replaced - what is the follow-up. (Dana will ask Art's thoughts about Dompig leaving the police force).
Caller #6- Plastic bag in video #24 - does he know if it was retrieved and what the contencts were.
Caller #7- Asked abouth the 8 1/2 minute phone call between Joran and Deepak - could have that been a video transmission.
Interview:
Dana: Asked about comments on Dompigs' departure
Art: Current chief is retiring, there is bitter feelings, some have let him down. When Art was there to interview Carlos, there was word that Dompig was going to be fired. So unknown if it is actually retirement or if he was fired.
Dana: Analyists with experience are flabergasted with lack of professionalism, etc. in investigation.
Art: They have some fine police officers there, but thinks was sabatagoged from within, was done on purpose. Look to who is remaining on the case to figure it out.
Dana: is this a case where a fresh group of investigators could get some answers.
Art: Evidence distroyed or misplaced or no longer can be obtained for the case . Under Aruban law, you can't even talk to them, new LE could not re-interview without the prosecutor and judges agreeing. If FBI could interview they could bring out a different resolve. Once Aruba closes this case I believe the FBI has jurisdiction and can investigate. At least 5 involved in this case, it just takes one to talk.
Dana: When can FBI come in and investigate?
Art:
US has treaty with all kinds of countries, share information. Once case is closed, the FBI can conduct an investigation if there is a violation of the civil rights . Treaty requires that you share the evidence and allow access to the witnesses. It would require the state department and attorney general to be condusive to require the FBI to conduct this investigation
.
Dana: How difficult would it be for a fulltime private investigator like yourself or whoever to go there and work on this case in Aruba and fulltime and take the evidence to the police department that is needed for an arrest and conviction
Art: Believes they have the right suspects, they were the last to be seen with Natalee. Follow the lies and solve the crime. A private investigator doesn't have access to the evidence. What the Aruban authorities have is not going to be shared with a private investigator, I can tell you that. You can do this work from the internet as easily as in Aruba - it is all right there - the statements, etc. are all right there - the statements of these kids, the statements of witnesses . Would really like the FBI to take a look at the case. Knows an FBI agent that threw his hands up at the interviews of one of these suspects by the lead investigator in this case, and that should tell you a lot .
Dana: What about the ATM witdrawal.
Art: There is absolutely no way to know if Paulus made a withdrawal or not. On May 30, Paulus told Beth, Jug and friends (at least 5 people) that he picked up Joran at 4 am - Beth has this written in her diary. When his statement was transcribed it comes back as 10 pm the night of the 29th. Paulus's statement has always been that he and Joran went to poker tournament. He was losing at about 8 pm, turned his hand to Joran and went home. Joran called between 9:30 and 10:00 and Paulus picked up at McDonalds. Beth has recorded all people, phone numbers, everything about the case. All (Beth, Jug, friends hear 4 am). Also at blackjack there is a player that looks like Paulus - that is totally contrary to every statement he has given. If it is him that is the first big lie that we know he has told.
Dana: As lying by a witness is considered an obstruction, why didn't this dictate charges agains Joran and K2?
Art: It should have dictated charges - they lied and there is no reason to fabricate the lie unless they know what happened. Evidence involves the lies that they tell. If you've ever read the statements of these kids when they are in the back of the patrol car (June) They all know what happened to her.
Dana: Any proof of blood in the back of the Kalpoe vehicle.
Art: Somewhere around the 8th - 11th of June, one of the assistant chief's announced that blood had been found - samples were to be sent to Holland and to the FBI. Art has a friend in the police force who said there was blood found. Blood in headliner and fabric, but report from Holland says chocolate and cleaning fluid. Unknown if FBI identified, but report said not blood. Don't know of any substances that show up as blood except a few where you can get a false reading (clorax bleach will give false reading in luminol test) . Police officer was told by forensics that there was blood in that car. If listeners believe that there was a sabatago of the case from within, there are only a few that could have sabataged. Jan Van der Straaten was involved from the beginning, Beth wanted to see him from the time she got there. Ends up as Paulus' best friend, has said "how can I do this to my best friend's son"
One of the problems Art has with the case is the statments. All appear to be incomplete, all appear to take the focus off Joran. Statements taken by Dennis Jacobs are incomplete. Van der Straatten, Dennis Jabobs and possibly Dompig sabatoged. Joran confessed June 9, transcriptions done June 13 incomplete. It wasn't a professional investigation or witness statement, that is for sure. When Dave and Art were there in October they saw Van der Straatten meeting with Dennis Jacobs and Dompig - why as he was no longer involved in the case. They talked to police office (the pregnant one at desk job) and she indicated he comes in a couple of times a week.
Dana: Jossy, TES asked about the painted rocks. Visibility Team was painting supposedly because they found a 7 year old boy. What are the painted rocks about, and was that plastic bag ever analized
Art: Don't know, have looked at painted rocks and bag video. Also natural bridge area. A 7 year old child was found in the dunes, I believe was found prior to Natalee's disappearance. Person says he took video June 10-11 of 2005. Video could be critical piece of evidence. Have talked to Dave to talk to his FBI sources about this. Is about 50 yards from dunes where Art found the belt, also area where Dave say the police car on June 2 where they slammed the trunk without talking to him . Dave and Art met with the Prime Minister and the assistant prosecutor who quit the case Analiss (?) Flanagan - they were impressed with her, but she quit the case. They met with her for hours late at night (she had the permission of the attorney general). They explained that they wanted the prosecution team replaced. She told them that she saw the testimony of Koen Gottenbos who she said concocted a story that he had a tennis match with Joran at the tennis club. Was found to be a lie, she wanted re-interviewed but police and KJ resisted him being re-interviewed. Word by students was that they borrowed Koen family boat on May 30. Also had solid evidence from friends of the Gottenbos' , that Koen was ready to crack. He was afraid of being arrested, slept with mother as afraid. They went to Dompig to try to get interviewed. Koen's father who got a lawyer and Koen was not interviewed.
Dana: Complicity from the top right accros the board - will heads ever roll?
Art: I kinda doubt it. Politically it is real difficult for Arubans to push for the truth as it will make their administration look bad, but they will have to live with it. If you have friends in high places in Aruba you can get things done (example of illegal work permits). Aruban citizenry deserves better than what they have. The police department deserves a better reputation than what the 3 police officers are giving them. If there are any Aruban citizens there that are listening, it must come from within. Talk to Bernadino who is retiring - he says he is dicgusted with the ways things are going - he knows a lot about why it failed.
Dana: Asked about the 8 1/2 minute cell call.
Art: Not sure the 4 am call ever happened. Knows that the cell phone records were never turned over to Beth, Dave or their attorneys. Art saw the cell log of Deepak, Satish and Joran of the night of May 30. Only 4-5 calls. Koen G has a little brother that was interviewed also - when they asked him about his cell phone he says it was stolen at school on May 29, 2005.
Dana: Data from Natalee's computer - was it ever analyized.
Art: Not that he is aware of. No laptop with her, shared computer with her mother and brother Matt. She had cell phone that she left in her room. Joran accessed porn site (under his password anyway) at 4 am. He told police it takes him a case of beer to get tipsy. We are not talking about a cub scout here.
Dana: FBI agent in lobby of Holiday Inn?
Art: Not that he has heard. There have been a lot of rumors in inuendos.
Dana: Date rape drug by others?
Art: Girl as juvenile came forward and identified two others date raped by this group. Police took statements. One girl told an acquaintence that she changed her statement (Sept 2005) after harassment by Dennis Jacobs. Art was to meet with the girl through her attorney on two occasions and she chickened out. Attorney representing the girl told Art she was date raped by Joran and his friends.
Dana: About bones being found. Any truth?
Art: A number of bones were turned in to police in Aruba. When followed up, they did not turn in bones to medical examiner. One LE took upon himself to take to clinic where Dr said was a donkey bone. Saw pic in Venzuela paper where reported to be a human bone with fingers attached, was sent to Caracus where they said was a manquein. Jossy and Art are amazed as it was human.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #679 8/26 - 8/29/2007
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Quote from: JustMeT on August 30, 2007, 03:42:17 AM
Quote from: San on August 29, 2007, 08:07:45 PM
Quote from: KarmaRoundUp on August 29, 2007, 07:55:10 PM
Quote from: klaasend on August 28, 2007, 09:13:56 PM
From Deepak's June 9th statement:
According to me Joran said to her that we were at the hotel.
She got out
. I had not seen this.
I heard something fall
.
I heard Joran say in Papiamentu shit she has fallen down
.
Joran exited through the same car door as where she had fallen down to help her up. That was the right back door
.
I had seen the girl on the ground. I saw Joran help her. I saw that the girl turned around and pushed
Joran into the car
. I heard that she said something to Joran.
I was unable to hear what she had said to Joran. The car radio had been turned down somewhat, the volume was maybe at the nine level or something like that.
Joran looked surprised. She walked away from Joran. What I saw is that she was walking towards the lobby. I did not see her enter the lobby. I saw that she leaned against a pillar with one hand. Joran had gotten back into the car and was sitting behind Satish. In the lobby I saw a man walking up to the girl. I saw that he had a radio in his left hand. I assumed that he was talking into the radio because he held it closely in front of his mouth.
It was a dark coloured man
. He was fairly tall. He wore a black T-shirt and black pants.
Deepak in drivers seat,Satish in front passenger seat,Joran behind Satish on right of car,Natalee supposedly behind Deepak in left of car....did Natalee climb over big ole doofus Joran to exit from the right side of the car?
Also....for all of those from aol message boards who said Deepak did not ID a dark skinned man....he did.
Deepak just goes into too much detail. He even knows what the volume level of his car was on when Natalee pushed Joran. In another statement we have Deepak saying when they left in the car he had the volume up loud and he could not hear what they were talking about but then he heard the word Hitler. He then says he lowered the radio and he heard every word Natalee was saying which included the Hitler relation and her living on a plantation. He must have good eyesight also because he saw Natalee on the floor. I bet he did see Natalee on the floor because he was present when Joran beat her.
Deepak is FOS. The volume on the radio was pumped up to the max so no one would hear Natalee's screams. I hope Deepak and Satish have nightmares for the rest of their life for what they did.
I thought Satish made these claims? I could be wrong. Deepak has never claimed to have heard the so called hilter bs...I thought. But yes you are right, he is definitely full of it.
Some people pay attention to detail. Im sure he knew what he had the volume on. Its his thang.
You are correct JustMeT it was Satish.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2083.msg274227#msg274227
Klaasend wrote:
More from Satish's June 11th Statement
:
My brother then drove on. We then drove by way of the city center towards the boulevard near where the Sonesta Hotel is. When we got close to the Sonesta Hotel he turned right and drove towards the hotels. When we got to the intersection west of Royal Plaza, we saw that the people where no longer standing at the intersection. We drove on in a westerly direction. We were driving on the boulevard where the gas station is when the girl said she wanted to go see the sharks in the vicinity of the "lighthouse". Joran told the girl that there were no shark in the vicinity of the "lighthouse". Then the girl said that the "lighthouse" was the only place on Aruba that she had not yet seen. The girl said that she wanted to see the "lighthouse". Joran then told my brother to drive to the "lighthouse" if the girl wanted to go and see the "lighthouse". My brother then drove towards the "lighthouse". While my brother was driving towards the "lighthouse" Joran and the girl were talking in the back of the car. I could not hear what Joran and the girl were talking about.
The music in the car was on so loud that
we
could not hear what the people in the back of the car were saying.
During the drive I had at one point heard that the girl had said the word "hitler". I had turned down the music a little. I then heard the girl saying that she was related to "hitler" and that her mother was the sister of "hitler" (BS). I also heard the girl saying that she was from Alabama and that her parents owned a plantation there that had slaves working on the plantation (more BS). Joran had told me later that the girl had asked him if we were his slaves. But I had not heard that.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #679 8/26 - 8/29/2007
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C-Band Talk Network (Dana Pretzer)
Art Wood Part 2 Of Our Discussion On the Holloway case.
http://bruinfan.sasktelwebsite.net/
Saturday, July 8, 2006
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #679 8/26 - 8/29/2007
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Quote from: San on August 30, 2007, 01:36:20 PM
You are correct JustMeT it was Satish.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2083.msg274227#msg274227
Klaasend wrote:
More from Satish's June 11th Statement
:
My brother then drove on. We then drove by way of the city center towards the boulevard near where the Sonesta Hotel is. When we got close to the Sonesta Hotel he turned right and drove towards the hotels. When we got to the intersection west of Royal Plaza, we saw that the people where no longer standing at the intersection. We drove on in a westerly direction. We were driving on the boulevard where the gas station is when the girl said she wanted to go see the sharks in the vicinity of the "lighthouse". Joran told the girl that there were no shark in the vicinity of the "lighthouse". Then the girl said that the "lighthouse" was the only place on Aruba that she had not yet seen. The girl said that she wanted to see the "lighthouse". Joran then told my brother to drive to the "lighthouse" if the girl wanted to go and see the "lighthouse". My brother then drove towards the "lighthouse". While my brother was driving towards the "lighthouse" Joran and the girl were talking in the back of the car. I could not hear what Joran and the girl were talking about.
The music in the car was on so loud that
we
could not hear what the people in the back of the car were saying.
During the drive I had at one point heard that the girl had said the word "hitler". I had turned down the music a little. I then heard the girl saying that she was related to "hitler" and that her mother was the sister of "hitler" (BS). I also heard the girl saying that she was from Alabama and that her parents owned a plantation there that had slaves working on the plantation (more BS). Joran had told me later that the girl had asked him if we were his slaves. But I had not heard that.
DEEPAK 6/11/2005 STATEMENT and ADDENDUM (the same day)
To your question whether I can make detailed statements about the conversations that were happening while we were driving this route, I can say the following. I did hear some things. I heard the girl say something about sharks and “Lighthouse”. The comment she made about the videoclip. Joran had told me two days later that the girl had asked him whether me and my brother had been his slaves. The girl had told Joran that she was from Alabama, and that she didn't like people of dark colour and that they owned a farm and that the people working on their farm were all of dark colour.
To your question whether the girl had made racist comment to us, I can say the following. The girl made no comment like that to us.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #679 8/26 - 8/29/2007
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Not long ago we were in a discussion re: 5th suspect. Apparently Croes said PVDS was the 5th.
*In a statement, Croes called van der Sloot the
fifth suspect
in the disappearance of Holloway, who has been missing since March 31.
Van der Sloot's 17-year-old son and two of the boy's friends, brothers Deepak Kalpoe, 21, and Satish Kalpoe, 18, were seen drinking with Holloway at Carlos 'n Charlie's bar on the night she disappeared. All three young men are being held at the island's correctional facility. A fourth* suspect, Steve Gregory Croes, 26, a disc jockey on a party boat that docked near Holloway's hotel, was arrested last weekend.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-06-23-aruba_x.htm
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Quote from: truthseeker2 on August 30, 2007, 02:30:33 PM
Quote from: San on August 30, 2007, 01:36:20 PM
You are correct JustMeT it was Satish.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2083.msg274227#msg274227
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More from Satish's June 11th Statement
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My brother then drove on. We then drove by way of the city center towards the boulevard near where the Sonesta Hotel is. When we got close to the Sonesta Hotel he turned right and drove towards the hotels. When we got to the intersection west of Royal Plaza, we saw that the people where no longer standing at the intersection. We drove on in a westerly direction. We were driving on the boulevard where the gas station is when the girl said she wanted to go see the sharks in the vicinity of the "lighthouse". Joran told the girl that there were no shark in the vicinity of the "lighthouse". Then the girl said that the "lighthouse" was the only place on Aruba that she had not yet seen. The girl said that she wanted to see the "lighthouse". Joran then told my brother to drive to the "lighthouse" if the girl wanted to go and see the "lighthouse". My brother then drove towards the "lighthouse". While my brother was driving towards the "lighthouse" Joran and the girl were talking in the back of the car. I could not hear what Joran and the girl were talking about.
The music in the car was on so loud that
we
could not hear what the people in the back of the car were saying.
During the drive I had at one point heard that the girl had said the word "hitler". I had turned down the music a little. I then heard the girl saying that she was related to "hitler" and that her mother was the sister of "hitler" (BS). I also heard the girl saying that she was from Alabama and that her parents owned a plantation there that had slaves working on the plantation (more BS). Joran had told me later that the girl had asked him if we were his slaves. But I had not heard that.
DEEPAK 6/11/2005 STATEMENT and ADDENDUM (the same day)
To your question whether I can make detailed statements about the conversations that were happening while we were driving this route, I can say the following. I did hear some things. I heard the girl say something about sharks and “Lighthouse”. The comment she made about the videoclip. Joran had told me two days later that the girl had asked him whether me and my brother had been his slaves. The girl had told Joran that she was from Alabama, and that she didn't like people of dark colour and that they owned a farm and that the people working on their farm were all of dark colour.
To your question whether the girl had made racist comment to us, I can say the following. The girl made no comment like that to us.
Interesting to see these together...Satish heard alot and Deepak didn't, but Joran told him
two
days later (6/1/05, when Anita returned???).....Satish said he turned down the music, to hear more...
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #679 8/26 - 8/29/2007
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Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on August 30, 2007, 03:34:20 PM
Interesting to see these together...Satish heard alot and Deepak didn't, but Joran told him
two
days later (6/1/05, when Anita returned???).....Satish said he turned down the music, to hear more...
It's even more interesting if you look at what happened in Deepak's interview the day before:
DEEPAK - JUNE 10TH STATEMENT
To your question as to what more he had said, I can state the following. I do not remember.
(comment reporting officer: at this moment, I, BURKE, asked the suspect D.S. KALPOE as to how it is possible that yesterday he could make statements about stuff that took place a week ago and that he now is unable to remember a conversation from the day before yesterday. The suspect D.S. KALPOE stated that he cannot remember anything, that they had only talked about the people from the media and about the video they were watching).
To your question whether I had ever been in an accident with my car, I can state the following. I had an accident once. I was a rear end collision. I had suffered no injury. The accident happened approximately one month ago.
(Comment reporting officer: the suspect was given a moment to think after I, BURKE, had had a conversation with the suspect "off the record" regarding his age and that he should think of his family and also about his future. After a few minutes the interview was continued. The suspect was asked if he had thought about it, to this he answered that he had been thinking and that he wanted to talk to his attorney first and after that make a more detailed statement. The suspect was prepared to continue with this interview/interrogation. The suspect was also asked to take of his shirt to ascertain that there were no wounds visible on him. None could be seen).
To your question as to how it is possible that there are contradictions in the statements given by me, Satish and Joran, regarding where exactly we stopped in front of the lobby of the hotel, I can state the following. I don't know, I have stated the place where I know I brought the car to a full stop.
(Comment reporting officer: the suspect was informed to take a minute to really think, he requested 2 minutes to have a conversation with his attorney, after which he would make a detailed statement. His request was granted.
(comment reporting officer: after the suspect spoke with his attorney, he stated that he would make a detailed statement tomorrow and that he would read through this statement but that he would not sign it.)
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GVC I believe at CnC on August 25, 2007:
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klaas,
It pains me to see picture of these pukes. I don't like wishing violence on others but these people, I do.
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I just want them to know we aren't forgetting.
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We arent forgetting..Nice score on the Pic Klaas of GVC..
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