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Looks like Rammstein hit the button on the nose.
Great article, I do have something bothering me that I have been wanting off my chest for a long time, I met Dave Holloway in Aruba and I do have to say he is a wonderful man, I helped get him medicine when he had a cold during after the first week, my heart felt for him as I approached him at Holiday Inn with antibiotics. I said to myself Dave seems like a real father who is caring and has a lot on his mind, a grieving dad wanting his daughter back and stopping at nothing to find her. What was going through my mind at that exact moment of handing the medicine was why would Beth have so much hatred for this man, " I want to make sure that Dave does not go on any TV programs, why did he have to show up, make sure he is far away from me and Jug, keep him busy by looking for Natalee around the island" these are the words of Beth Twitty on the very first day that the first media arrived, to be exact the day Jug & Angela went on Current Affair and Angela asked for the USA to please come and help find Natalee ( This is the first missing person for Aruba & many Arubans thought it would be necessary for the USA to take action). I also know that Julie Renfro helped out immensfully from the beginning. Yes, many of you think she was paid but why, she don't need the money she bent over backwards to help in every way to find Natalee and even got in trouble every day for not publishing anything in Aruba Today or Bondia newspapers of what was happening on the scene with H/T. For all you on this blog with mixed feelings or hate toward Julie than ask yourself why Jug on two weeks later after an interview on Fox  pushed Julie as she exited a resort while she was holding her 1 1/2 old daughter in hand. Truth be told because as a Twitty family member said " Jug is like a volcano, he errupts and does not cool off, there was many problems before coming to Aruba with the family and I really don't want to get into it but it had to do with Natalee wanting to spend more time at her fathers and much more".
Dave if you are reading this and I do make sense please let everyone know on this blog that I truly come on with intentions of loyalty and honesty and that I do know more than the media wanted captured. God Bless you and I hope everyone has a great weekend.
Natalee I am and always will be an angel looking for you, your mother was right when she put a smiley face next to my name and I pray you’re alive and well. My children till this day still pray for you and ask if you've been found.
I will not be coming back to this board but I do want everyone to know that Julie and I have from the beginning tried our utmost to solve this mystery and it seems like many of you just want us to shut up so Thank you for opening your hearts on this blog and criticizing two people who are not being paid by anyone but going this far to keep pushing the right buttons and keep up with finding clues to what happened to Natalee.  
Here are more things you can read and just maybe you can ask yourself were Angela & Julie only trying to help and were many others in Aruba doing there best at figuring out what possibly happened. I know in the good old USA, no one would have gotten away with many of the things Beth and her posy did on this island which was uncalled for. In the good old USA I believe it states innocent before proven guilty, Beth had the 3 boys guilty and hung on the cross before even stepping on Aruba ground. I guess I would of too but at least I would have all my leads first and try to figure out what could have happened and looked at many possibilities that were important but tossed out because someone said Nope that’s  not my daughter. How about if I told you all that I seen a video and I can swear on my life that Natalee was at the front desk after 2:50pm and Ruth Mcvey shortly after showed up a few feet away and was on the look out" maybe I am wrong but I was looking at the walk and the shoes which matched in pattern with the casino video" and a blue skirt that matched Natalee's and of course Blond hair but the only thing different was her shirt. Dave can you shed some light on this one please, and please tell me why it took about 25 minutes for Beth to walk right next door to her room at Holiday Inn and less than 2 minutes to look at the video and say no that is not my daughter but in that 25 minutes of other family and friends watching the video they were amazed that it could be Natalee.
 Dave did you know that Beth & Jug took a taxi to meet someone up at Alto Vista and to our surprise she came back with an envelope in hand and her & Jug were so happy that they almost made love in the back seat" Can you tell me Pearl what they were doing or who they were meeting down the hill with the Taxi's high beams on waiting for them and this happened a few times, am I right Pearl, you should know and so should everyone else on this blog. Gee I wonder what was in that envelope. Oh Pearl by the way don’t say she was praying or it was a holy spot because we know in Aruba its just not true. The doors are locked at chapel and the taxi drivers have written police reports.

1/29/06 [""Faith is the answer"]Compact Header|Full Message View Angela Munzenhofer.
Beth and Angela via email-
It has been along time and I wish things could be different and you could hold your daughter in her arms. I did not mean to hurt you in any way. I have been asked numerous times to go on as a journalist and I told them Natalee is a part of me and I made a promise that I would bring her home. Beth do you remember when I told you about Brian's prediction well if you opened the attachment you could see that there may be some truth and I promise you I won't let Natalee go until I've searched every aspect. It talks about the 3 men, I personally know that JJ is from Venezuela and blond hair blue eyes, I hate to say this but Natalee bought marijuana with her friends from him. Brian could never of known that since I have no connection with JJ or Brian. I went straight to the police with it, Dennis Jacobs was on the phone calling Baranquilla Colombia to find if such a place exists, Beth it does and there is a room no# 162. I really need you not to say anything to the press because the police there are investigating if word gets out they'll move her. I promise on my life we will bring her home. She is alive I feel it, just like I told you in spirit with the 3 spiritual people I have been working with, they say the same. Maybe you should do what Brian says and tell her you love her as she already knows. At 18 I thought I knew it all but now I look back and say what the heck I was thinking. Times have changed and not for the better. I went to church at St. Anna today and a prayer went out to Natalee. I hope and pray that she will here my prayer and you will be blessed with your daughter safe and sound. Remember things I said are true, I never lie its not in me, you hurt and it hurts me to see your pain. Don't think for a moment I forgot. Julie has been on this even stronger than you can imagine. I also got to the  tapes from the Holiday Inn the night she went missing, at one point I screamed and said that's her, not by her hair or how she dressed but her distinctive walk and we looked at different videos and I was surprised no one caught this. Your daughter is alive, I’m not giving you hope its my gut feeling and i'll always be your angel with a smiley face next to my name. I PROMISE. Beth please what ever you feel, as a friend in helping to find Natalee i will always be there.

Hi Angela,
 It was good to hear from you...hard to believe it's been 8 months since we began. Hope everything is going well with you and your family. I would love to talk with you anytime you get a chance...there have been many times I wanted to call but not sure if I should.
Would you let me know if it's OK if I call....... I still have your number with the smiley face beside it.
Warm regards,
Beth

6-16-05 ["HELP ME"]Compact Header|Full Message View Angela Munzenhofer .
Angela emails a cop in Alabama to find out who is William "Beth talks about a message that was left on Williams phone from Natalee that night after she left CNC and went missing, but no one not even Dave got to listen to that phone call, not even the police". I asked Beth on her birthday when I was going to do an interview with Rivera if I can bring up William and she insisted "NO" ( I still ask myself who is this mysterious boy William, I know it was someone very special in Natalee's life).
This is the email I sent:
I have one name that I think you can help me with if you are in Alabama center, WHO IS WILLIAM he has the key to the missing link. He is a friend of Natalee's from school someone she trusts. She talked to him last on the night she went missing. Please understand he is important to me and i don't want any problems with the police but maybe you can find out who he is . I am desperate
 "Till today I still heard no reply, so help me bloggers in figuring out who he is, maybe opus can help since he can figure out my whole name and what I do for a living".

On 6-3-05 this email was sent to Aruba today
[ No Subject]Compact Header|Full Message View Angela Munzenhofer

I have some info about the reward and it can not go up on the website until tomorrow but it can be published for tomorrow’s newspaper.10,000 from the government, 10,000 from the family and 10,000 from the Aruba Hotel and Tourism assoc. grand total 30,000 dollars.
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Kidnapped poster 15- Hootie posters were made by Beth Twitty and signed Reward by Beth Twitty and I forgot the phone number on that poster was also by Beth Twitty including Hootie which we in Aruba don't know what their nicknames are. Yes they were made in Aruba that same night and taken down the next day when I asked why would you write "I really want to talk to you",was there a problem before she arrived on the island and why wouldn't you put a police number and how did you get that local phone number so fast and why didn't you add Missing, I told Beth the letter was to personal almost as she knew that Natalee was running away or not coming home.
The most important part is that Julie & I told Beth the first day of June at the Holiday Inn search party that we were going to fly into Alabama and get some info from the girls and chaperones on what happened during their stay, (I would of asked- who they met, who they bought drugs from , who they hung out with and why weren't the chaperones filling in the log as they did every night, why was it unreported that night and the next day ASAP and why wait until you reach the airport, was it because the chaperones did not do there job correctly )  (:ooh I forgot to mention that the chaperones were on the beach drinking wine at that time.)  
Anyway its late and I have to say my prayers and I know God almighty is proud of me tonight because I let out a lot of misery that lurked inside for to long because I was to nice to hurt a grieving family but who am I to say that just maybe something can come out of all this. Thanks everyone for reading my post, I will not come on anymore since I do not take criticism to well. I feel better now that I spoke, good night Dave and please forgive me if I was harsh in anyway it was not my intentions.
from sunny Aruba,
Angela Munzenhofer Dilorenzo-

 
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Dave if you are reading this and I do make sense please let everyone know on this blog that I truly come on with intentions of loyalty and honesty and that I do know more than the media wanted captured. God Bless you and I hope everyone has a great weekend.
Natalee I am and always will be an angel looking for you, your mother was right when she put a smiley face next to my name and I pray you’re alive and well. My children till this day still pray for you and ask if you've been found.
I will not be coming back to this board but I do want everyone to know that Julie and I have from the beginning tried our utmost to solve this mystery and it seems like many of you just want us to shut up so Thank you for opening your hearts on this blog and criticizing two people who are not being paid by anyone but going this far to keep pushing the right buttons and keep up with finding clues to what happened to Natalee.  
Here are more things you can read and just maybe you can ask yourself were Angela & Julie only trying to help and were many others in Aruba doing there best at figuring out what possibly happened. I know in the good old USA, no one would have gotten away with many of the things Beth and her posy did on this island which was uncalled for. In the good old USA I believe it states innocent before proven guilty, Beth had the 3 boys guilty and hung on the cross before even stepping on Aruba ground. I guess I would of too but at least I would have all my leads first and try to figure out what could have happened and looked at many possibilities that were important but tossed out because someone said Nope that’s  not my daughter. How about if I told you all that I seen a video and I can swear on my life that Natalee was at the front desk after 2:50pm and Ruth


 
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Lets be honest look at how many unsolved cases there are in Alabama about missing poeple.  Now that a kid is lost or better siad ran away from her parents in Aruba.  You guys are making a big fus about it.  How many americans have been lost in Cancun, Jamaica, you name it.  And there has been no media coverage like the one here in Aruba,  Is it maybe because they have ties with the vice President.  I still think that this is an insurance fraud.  Time will tell believe me.  And for all you out there that Angela is SCUBAJAB you are wrong.  She is a very good person very good harted and has helped the Twitty and Holloways when they were in Aruba.  But as a person that has been in involved with the search for Nataly you will find many question marks to this puzzle.  There is a vidoe that was taken in the Hollyday Inn were Nataly was seen at the front desk at 2.30 am.  Beth was asked to come and check out the video it took her 45 minutes to get from her room to were they were viewing the video.
Now if it was my kid missing I would run to see if it is my kid and not take 45 minutes.  Also why when she was on Dr. Phill togher with other famalies that lost thier kids who were crying and sobbing and she was there with a cool face she did not eve shed a tear.  And why did they not let the Arubian authority's interogate the shaparons and students that were here with her.  Who,s DNA did they find on the tooth brush?  And why did Beth go to Alto Vista Chapel at 1.30am ?  And why wasent the media allowed to take thier pictures why they were drinking and laughing and partying?  You see you all want to give Aruba the fault bud were is the saying that you guy's love to use inocent until proven guilty.  Time will tell the truth will come out sooner or later.  O dont forget that Nataly has ran away several times already.  

 

 
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« Reply #282 on: July 05, 2007, 01:16:15 PM »  

For your information and your toughts the poster was made by a well know printing company in the US of which we have the name and we will make it public as soon as we get the copy of the invoice.  Also the phone number on that poster does not belong to J.R..  You see the problem is that everybody is speculating what happend the case is not even closed it is still in investigation.  I will give you another hint go read the article in the vanity Fair is that what you call a mother in mourning of her lost having a big party with her friends in her kitchen or is it just to get attention from the media.

 
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Dave if you are reading this and I do make sense please let everyone know on this blog that I truly come on with intentions of loyalty and honesty and that I do know more than the media wanted captured. God Bless you and I hope everyone has a great weekend.
Natalee I am and always will be an angel looking for you, your mother was right when she put a smiley face next to my name and I pray you’re alive and well. My children till this day still pray for you and ask if you've been found.
I will not be coming back to this board but I do want everyone to know that Julie and I have from the beginning tried our utmost to solve this mystery and it seems like many of you just want us to shut up so Thank you for opening your hearts on this blog and criticizing two people who are not being paid by anyone but going this far to keep pushing the right buttons and keep up with finding clues to what happened to Natalee.  
Here are more things you can read and just maybe you can ask yourself were Angela & Julie only trying to help and were many others in Aruba doing there best at figuring out what possibly happened. I know in the good old USA, no one would have gotten away with many of the things Beth and her posy did on this island which was uncalled for. In the good old USA I believe it states innocent before proven guilty, Beth had the 3 boys guilty and hung on the cross before even stepping on Aruba ground. I guess I would of too but at least I would have all my leads first and try to figure out what could have happened and looked at many possibilities that were important but tossed out because someone said Nope that’s  not my daughter. How about if I told you all that I seen a video and I can swear on my life that Natalee was at the front desk after 2:50pm and Ruth



I would say, show me the the video. Wouldn't you?


 
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« Reply #252 on: July 05, 2007, 11:06:11 AM »  

Everybody listens to the US net works and think that they know it all.  Well they have to start looking to the close relatives and parents. Not that only why did the students and chaperon leave with out notifying the authority's.  And why were the Arubian authorties not allowed to interrogate the chaperon's and students.

Did you know that her ex-boyfriend was in Aruba with her 2 cousins.  Every body has taken this out of contest.  Have you ever thought about insurance fraud.  How is it possible that you come out of Alabama with posters in hand stating that they had kidnapped her daughter with a local cel pone number.
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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2007, 09:46:19 PM »

Skye a poster from BFN has asked these questions of Angela's motives:

Questions for you Angela.  

1.    Why did you post here to defend your lies and use an ID similar to a person that has posted here for a long time?  IMO, that also shows your dishonesty and discredits you.

2.     Who paid you and Julia to create the diversions during the first few weeks with false leads Julia called "tips from her sources " ?  

3.     Why did you and Julia start the rumor about a "blue eyed dutch boy" ?

4.     Where is the police report your other internet friends are ranting was filed stating that Jug pushed Julia?  Post it.

5.     Does Reina Beatrix airport know that (you and ) Julia wrote in your article that Reina Beatrix allowed a medjet to fly into their air space and land without authorization AND then the medjet is allowed to sit there without authorization for a couple of days without their knowledge  while planes  arrive and department with tourists??  How is that possible?

6.      What is it that you hope to gain for yourself ?
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2007, 06:48:45 PM »

could some one post the  names of the anti natalee  people from aruba who post here if you know.
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2007, 08:38:07 PM »

1st lie:     This is the first missing person in Aruba


     why, of course, it is...   no one ever missing before.  wow.  what a safe place.  if it were even remotely true

then the statement that beth had the three boys hanging from crosses and guilty before her jet hit the ground

she had no idea who they were before the jet hit the ground, but their own lies, lie after lie, when there was a missing girl that they were the last seen with, that got them hanging from crosses by their own words...nearly every law enforcement officer in the world also had them hung after the lies started pouring in, nearly every one involved with criminal justice placed them there to, because guilty people lie and innocent ones don't

and this is just the first paragraph...
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« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2007, 08:42:46 PM »

second verse, same as the first:

"How about if I told you all that I seen a video and I can swear on my life that Natalee was at the front desk after 2:50pm and Ruth Mcvey shortly after showed up a few feet away and was on the look out" maybe I am wrong but I was looking at the walk and the shoes which matched in pattern with the casino video" and a blue skirt that matched Natalee's and of course Blond hair but the only thing different was her shirt."


what would anyone care about a video that showed natalee at the front desk that afternoon?  and, now that i see it is in the p.m., i do believe angela muffinhopper when she swears she saw it
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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2007, 09:13:15 PM »

third verse, shifting to reverse:

"I went straight to the police with it, Dennis Jacobs was on the phone calling Baranquilla Colombia to find if such a place exists, Beth it does and there is a room no# 162."

after swearing natalee bought pot (how would she know that for certain?--while whining that we americans don't perceive of our own "innocent until proven guilty" system;  i guess that doesn't apply to arubans and drug felonies) she brings up the one thing that contains absolutely no facts whatsoever, which is brian's dream:  its a dream, angela----but wait, there is a country called columbia!!! wow! and they have a city there named Baranquilla!  triple wow!!! there's some facts that are indisputable...however, she goes on to substantiate brian's dream further because he had also seen natalee, with black, spiked hair, impossible to identify with this clever new look, going and coming out of an unnamed hotel in  ROOM 162

and guess what?  there is an unnamed hotel, several of them, possibly, and they all have a room 162 !!!!! and just for emphasis, here are three more exclamation points: !!!
well, what more evidence would you need that natalee was alive and well and partying up a storm in south america? that detective angela, what a gal...  just earth shattering; first, colombia actually exists--can you imagine the coincidence required for that factor to have also been in someone's dream?  then we find out there is an actual city named baranquilla... and, the most stunning and twilight zone fact of them all: there is a room in that city with the number 162 JUST LIKE IN BRIAN'S DREAM!!!  quadwow and a triple yazoo...so why would anyone doubt, she wants to know, especially beth, the vast validity of this dream, proving natalee is alive and well and hiding from hitler's sister?   well, angela, where might a sane fellow begin...

so, thanks greeneyedlady (those cool and limpid greeneyes), you have straightened me out by letting angela's logic prove that cartoons are not always just on television on saturdays...i needed the humor and the break from reality, or MOP6 for that matter

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