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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 -
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September 25, 2007, 10:27:56 PM »
Quote from: klaasend on September 25, 2007, 10:22:20 PM
Quote from: igsigs on September 25, 2007, 10:18:53 PM
Quote from: klaasend on September 25, 2007, 10:08:53 PM
Wonder if Chamaly is one of those detained? Doesn't Chamaly own Arubatoday and Bondia?
I believe he does. So we have an initial match? I am gonna hafta read back...
H.R.M.O. (41 aña) - I'm wondering if this is an Oduber
R.R. (45 aña)
L.E.M. (63 aña)
M.V.C. (68 aña)
R.A.B.M. (28 aña)
F.R.A. (50 aña)
M.K.K. (28 aña)
J.A.C. (36 aña)
(but the myspace says he's 34)
These guys from SA are always a couple of years older than they say. Just ask reps from the Little League World Series.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 -
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Quote from: Rob on September 25, 2007, 10:14:56 PM
Quote from: klaasend on September 25, 2007, 10:10:49 PM
Rob
- do you have a reliable source that KJ had an affair with PVDS?
TJ Ward.
If they can prove that this is true this is the type of information that would shock the world. To have a prosecutor who is having an affair with a married man whose son murdered an 18 year old girl and not remove herself from the case is a criminal act to me.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 -
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J.A.C. - The initials match!
Quote from: klaasend on July 30, 2007, 04:49:20 PM
Quote from: Dayhiker on July 30, 2007, 04:43:59 PM
DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD:
CHEMALY, MICHELLE ZEYNA;
Residing in L.G. SMITH BLVD. 536, NOORD, ARUBA
Born in ARUBA on 31 JANUARY 1972
Nationality DUTCH
Position PROXY
Effective 7 MAY 2003
Authority RESTRICTED
CHEMALY, JOHN ALFRED (JR);
Residing in ROOI SANTO 5-D, APT. 9-B, NOORD, ARUBA
Born in ARUBA on 28 JUNE 1973
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 -
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on September 25, 2007, 10:27:27 PM
Quote from: Rob on September 25, 2007, 10:19:05 PM
I remind everyone here TJ was in the FBI for 25 years. The person that gave him the informants (4) is the same person missing in Kish Iran and worked Natalee's case until they were shut out on Aruba. This person tracked a killer to Kish responsible for the murder of an Iranian dissident in Maryland... look it up if you don't believe me. It won't be hard to prove I am telling the truth.
FACT
Rob ... I realize that this rumor has been circulating Natalee forums since very early on in the investigation. I have googled and googled and googled (sounds obscene) but ... have been unable to come up with any credible backup and ... nobody else has been able to provide me with any backup. However ... today you put a name to the source of the rumor. I would appreciate if you could provide a link to the words conveyed by TJ Ward in regards to an alleged affair between Paulus and Karin Janssen.
Rob ... if this is true ... as Beth Holloway Twitty would say ...
"Greta this is huge".
Janet
There are no links to a telephone conversation.
I normally do not give info from a source. However, It is a fact according to TJ and to the person abducted in Kish.
Have Dana ask him.
I feel confidant he will tell what he has told me. I fear nothing!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 -
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Yeah, what percentage of MySpace pages have the persons real age?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 -
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Glenda Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:30 pm
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I'm 100% sure that John Chemaly has not been arrested.
How about John A. Chemaly
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 -
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Quote from: klaasend on September 25, 2007, 10:28:07 PM
J.A.C. - The initials match!
Quote from: klaasend on July 30, 2007, 04:49:20 PM
Quote from: Dayhiker on July 30, 2007, 04:43:59 PM
DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD:
CHEMALY, MICHELLE ZEYNA;
Residing in L.G. SMITH BLVD. 536, NOORD, ARUBA
Born in ARUBA on 31 JANUARY 1972
Nationality DUTCH
Position PROXY
Effective 7 MAY 2003
Authority RESTRICTED
CHEMALY, JOHN ALFRED (JR);
Residing in ROOI SANTO 5-D, APT. 9-B, NOORD, ARUBA
Born in ARUBA on 28 JUNE 1973
Nationality DUTCH
Position MANAGING DIRECTOR
Effective 1 MAY 2003
Authority FULL
YES
Is he not the guy seen in the photos with Julie? He sure looks like him.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 -
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September 25, 2007, 10:33:52 PM »
Quote from: Rob on September 25, 2007, 10:31:02 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on September 25, 2007, 10:27:27 PM
Quote from: Rob on September 25, 2007, 10:19:05 PM
I remind everyone here TJ was in the FBI for 25 years. The person that gave him the informants (4) is the same person missing in Kish Iran and worked Natalee's case until they were shut out on Aruba. This person tracked a killer to Kish responsible for the murder of an Iranian dissident in Maryland... look it up if you don't believe me. It won't be hard to prove I am telling the truth.
FACT
Rob ... I realize that this rumor has been circulating Natalee forums since very early on in the investigation. I have googled and googled and googled (sounds obscene) but ... have been unable to come up with any credible backup and ... nobody else has been able to provide me with any backup. However ... today you put a name to the source of the rumor. I would appreciate if you could provide a link to the words conveyed by TJ Ward in regards to an alleged affair between Paulus and Karin Janssen.
Rob ... if this is true ... as Beth Holloway Twitty would say ...
"Greta this is huge".
Janet
There are no links to a telephone conversation.
I normally do not give info from a source. However, It is a fact according to TJ and to the person abducted in Kish.
Have Dana ask him.
I feel confidant he will tell what he has told me. I fear nothing!
Rob ... I misunderstood. I did not realize that TJ Ward had shared this information with you personally.
Janet
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 -
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can't wait to see where Patrick fits in!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 -
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September 25, 2007, 10:36:29 PM »
Quote from: Tamikosmom on September 25, 2007, 10:33:52 PM
Quote from: Rob on September 25, 2007, 10:31:02 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on September 25, 2007, 10:27:27 PM
Quote from: Rob on September 25, 2007, 10:19:05 PM
I remind everyone here TJ was in the FBI for 25 years. The person that gave him the informants (4) is the same person missing in Kish Iran and worked Natalee's case until they were shut out on Aruba. This person tracked a killer to Kish responsible for the murder of an Iranian dissident in Maryland... look it up if you don't believe me. It won't be hard to prove I am telling the truth.
FACT
Rob ... I realize that this rumor has been circulating Natalee forums since very early on in the investigation. I have googled and googled and googled (sounds obscene) but ... have been unable to come up with any credible backup and ... nobody else has been able to provide me with any backup. However ... today you put a name to the source of the rumor. I would appreciate if you could provide a link to the words conveyed by TJ Ward in regards to an alleged affair between Paulus and Karin Janssen.
Rob ... if this is true ... as Beth Holloway Twitty would say ...
"Greta this is huge".
Janet
There are no links to a telephone conversation.
I normally do not give info from a source. However, It is a fact according to TJ and to the person abducted in Kish.
Have Dana ask him.
I feel confidant he will tell what he has told me. I fear nothing!
Rob ... I misunderstood. I did not realize that TJ Ward had shared this information with you personally.
Janet
I'm sure Red will call him. And verify what I am saying! It's a FP!
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This is a few years old...not sure if it's the same Jr.
http://www.arubadining.com/newsletter/archives/newsletter_spring_04/newsletter_spring04.html
NEW AGA BOARD OF DIRECTORS 2004 ELECTED
The AGA elected its Board of Directors at the General Assembly held in early February. Members expressed satisfaction over the direction taken by the 2003 board under the leadership of Hubert Solagnier, General Manager of Amazonia Churrascaria, and re-elected them. The current board consists of President Hubert Solagnier, Vice President Roy Leitch (Waterfront Crabhouse), Treasurer Ann Brown (Tierra del Sol) and members at large Rudsel Maduro (Iguana Joe’s), Douglass Markus (Cuba’s Cookin’),
John Chemaly, Jr. (Valentino’s),
and Gerry Mans (La Cabana).
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just so everyone knows - In this conversation with TJ he revealed several thing (only one of which I posted on my blog).
The others I did not feel were relevant. I shared some of this info with Klaas at the time.
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I thought we already knew she was having the affair. I know I heard it here first...well maybe not here first...but I know we talked about it. I was here that day.
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Quote from: Lala'sMom on September 25, 2007, 10:39:42 PM
I thought we already knew she was having the affair. I know I heard it here first...well maybe not here first...but I know we talked about it. I was here that day.
Yes, I remember the discussion here at SM too.
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Quote from: MuffyBee on September 25, 2007, 10:41:18 PM
Quote from: Lala'sMom on September 25, 2007, 10:39:42 PM
I thought we already knew she was having the affair. I know I heard it here first...well maybe not here first...but I know we talked about it. I was here that day.
Yes, I remember the discussion here at SM too.
Thank goodness. I was worried I had been another dimension or something.
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Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
in LCD Archive
Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007 by AZLady
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asked Jossy about the Karen Janssen/PVDS affair? His response? ...
36.9% San July 26, 2007, 09:01:53 PM
Lively Case Discussion #665 7/25 - 7/26/2007
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Lively Case Discussion #665 7/25 - 7/26/2007 by sb
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a credible claim that yes indeed KJ and PVDS were having an affair.
That place is a ...
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By the way - the convo with TJ was at his digression.
HE CALLED ME
. He volunteered this info and I never even asked about it.
He was pissed off about the cocaine rumors and called me to see what I thought.
FACT
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Quote from: San on September 25, 2007, 10:28:06 PM
If they can prove that this is true this is the type of information that would shock the world. To have a prosecutor who is having an affair with a married man whose son murdered an 18 year old girl and not remove herself from the case is a criminal act to me.
San, we just don't understand their system.
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Quote from: Rob on September 25, 2007, 10:47:18 PM
By the way - the convo with TJ was at his digression.
HE CALLED ME
. He volunteered this info and I never even asked about it.
He was pissed off about the cocaine rumors and called me to see what I thought.
FACT
If true Rob, how credible does that make anything they ever did look? In fact, it just validates the corruption. What a bunch of slimeballs.
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