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Author Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 - 9/30/2007  (Read 224218 times)
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« Reply #340 on: September 26, 2007, 09:14:48 AM »

Maybe Hotshots still has the For Sale information on Astrid's house.  Must be positively huge to accommodate up to 250 at meeting with 8 bedroom suites of 700 sq ft each.
Hi guys, yes I do have pics, but I am not at home.  When I get home later I will post the pics for you.....

Do you have the sales advertisement?  Interested in the square footage being so large to accommodate 5600 sq ft of suites only plus dining, etc.

TIA

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« Reply #341 on: September 26, 2007, 09:15:04 AM »

RWV Archives

seedyrum - you've GOT to be kidding me
jaime does not look like lorenzo
Posted by: Melody | August 12, 2005 03:37 PM


Melody, so you do know who Lorenzo is, how is he related to Joran?
Posted by: cocomo | Friday, August 12, 2005 at 04:25 PM

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Melody did respond to this question and stated that as far as she knew, Joran did not have any half brother.  I just read it on a RWV thread the link posted by Pearl at BFN.

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Oh..Ok..I was scanning threw the RU archives on RWV..Looking mainly for the Aruban posters and never saw her response..Seem's like Dan erased alot of stuff over at RWV  Neutral
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« Reply #342 on: September 26, 2007, 09:26:11 AM »

Yes, I believe he did *******.  Many, many of my posts are gone but guess he does that when he bans somebody.
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« Reply #343 on: September 26, 2007, 09:28:57 AM »

Yes, I believe he did *******.  Many, many of my posts are gone but guess he does that when he bans somebody.
Wink How I didn't get banned still baffles me!  Laughing I blasted him both publicly and privately about his "source" - J ulia Renfro.
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« Reply #344 on: September 26, 2007, 09:30:27 AM »

So if Jossy and Luis Mansur own property togther and filed this suit together, I wonder if Jossy will be implicated in any of this latest spat of arrests?  So far, AFAIK, he has steered clear of any of the family shady dealings.  I sure hope he is not involved in any way as he does seem like such a nice person.
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« Reply #345 on: September 26, 2007, 09:36:55 AM »

Yes, I believe he did *******.  Many, many of my posts are gone but guess he does that when he bans somebody.
Wink How I didn't get banned still baffles me!  Laughing I blasted him both publicly and privately about his "source" - J ulia Renfro.

 Confused  I think his banning policies were based on pure whim, Wreck.     He particularly took offense to both me and Frank for some reason.  And of course Angelaberdina.  But before banning, he would just delete my posts.  I have suspected scubajap was also encouraging him to get rid of me as she didn't like my questions.   Very Happy
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« Reply #346 on: September 26, 2007, 09:38:50 AM »

Also, the properties posted by Selena at RWV turned out to be all the property listed by that Real Estate Agent.  None of it had any connection to PVDS other than the known property commonly referred to as the Sloot compound.

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Thanks Anna...I thought that's what I remembered, but went to the link anyway Laughing

Thanks to Ms Maples, *******, Janet, Klaas and everyone for all the link and posts thet bring over.  Been some interesting reading the last few days.
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« Reply #347 on: September 26, 2007, 09:40:18 AM »

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Did you get an order update from Walmart?

Your order has been delayed due to a delay in our fulfillment
process. Unfortunately, we were unable to ship the item(s)
you ordered below by the originally estimated ship date.


 
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« Reply #348 on: September 26, 2007, 09:41:37 AM »

Melody posted, and this is from memory so not exact, but pretty close something like the typical Aruban:

According to me, Joran doesn't have any half brother.

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So if looking through her posts, I am pretty sure it starts out with that "according to me" business.  If I had time, would try to find it again and will if opportunity presents itself later today.  Busy day around here as usual.
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« Reply #349 on: September 26, 2007, 09:44:37 AM »

Noticed in the article Ms Marple posted about the raid this morning that KLPD sniffer dogs from the Netherlands were used so I assume this has been in the planning stage for a while.
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« Reply #350 on: September 26, 2007, 09:45:44 AM »

Luis Mansur background from Harry Ho  Neutral There must be 2 Luis Mansurs as one of them is listed in Military school in 1984 and the other is 63 yrs old.

http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2005/11/harrytho_1106_n.php
Here's some background to "landlord" Luis Mansur with a connect with the Twittys via the Castle Heights Military Academy in Lebanon, TN.
The seller is Terminal Investment Corp. with President Jose Travieso Jr. and directors Luis Mansur and Jose Montiel.

Terminal Investment purchased the property in April 1985 for $12.5 million, or $51.15 a square foot. The property is currently assessed at $4.1 million, or $16.89 a square foot, according to Miami-Dade County property records. The sales price is undisclosed.
Terminal Investment is owned by the Bahamas-based Mendal Investments and the Cayman Islands-based Marine Investors, according to a document Silvers filed with the city of Miami Beach.

Comment: The fact that money from overseas (two tax havens with secret ownership) purchased the property in Miami at a huge premium, hints at the source of the funds as being illegal. It is common practice to launder money via real estate purchases. First, those who approved the sale of this property undoubtedly did so with the anticipation of some manner of clandestine remuneration. Second, those individuals (entities) administering the property are under some obligation to approve a lucrative use of the property some time in the future. Third, the fact that Luis Mansur is one of the three directors in this development, likewise, hints of money laundering.

On Luis Mansur, Aruba Facts - Aruba News Desk - Newsletter March 1-31, 2001

The Royal Cabana Casino was first open in 1992 and was operated by Luis Mansur and Blackjack Casino. At the end of 1995 the casino was taken over by Aruba Leisure & Gaming partners Norbert Aleman and Nathan Katz, both familiar operators on the island.
Bienvenidos a Regionnet
Luis Mansur is involved in the Central Industrial and Commercial entity in Argentina.
Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - Jossy in hospital with chest pains!LovelyPigeon
The school that several Mansurs, including Jossy, went to that was also attended by Jug and Jar Twitty was Tennessee Military Institute (TMI). None of them attended during the same years.
I have not heard that a Mansur son and Jug's son went to the same school and wouldn't know what school that would be.

TMI was renamed Tennessee Military Academy (TMA) in 1975, but is not longer in operation at all, having closed in 1988.

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Go to http://www.castleheights.com/ and look at Roll Call for names and years.
Jug Twitty '74
Farid Mansur '82
Serge Mansur '83
Luis Mansur '84
Eduardo Mansur '86

Castle Heights Military Academy in Lebanon,TN

Castle Heights Military Academy maintains an active alumni association that receives huge alumni donations.

Aruba - Matutino Diario - Diabierna - Staff y Personal

Director of the Diario, Jossy Mansur
Director in Absentia: Luis Mansur, Jossy Mansur, Eduardo Mansur, and Damilice Mansur.
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« Reply #351 on: September 26, 2007, 10:15:17 AM »

Noticed in the article Ms Marple posted about the raid this morning that KLPD sniffer dogs from the Netherlands were used so I assume this has been in the planning stage for a while.

Most definetly!! I saw in another article they found a million in cash at one of the property's...This is pretty Big!!
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« Reply #352 on: September 26, 2007, 10:23:13 AM »

Anna,

Did you get an order update from Walmart?

Your order has been delayed due to a delay in our fulfillment
process. Unfortunately, we were unable to ship the item(s)
you ordered below by the originally estimated ship date.


 


No, I didn't get that email but I went to check the status of my order and it still says "Processing" and not "shipped"!  So it will take at the least a couple of days after shipping happens.  Looks like next week for me.   Sad  And that's at the earliest. 
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« Reply #353 on: September 26, 2007, 10:26:11 AM »

There is this added detail on my book order:

Will arrive between Wednesday, 09/26/07, and Friday, 09/28/07

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So sounds like they are SAYING Thursday but I find that hard to believe if it didn't ship yet.
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« Reply #354 on: September 26, 2007, 11:21:02 AM »

Per MF at RU - first addressing the Arubatoday issue then the arrests:

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I heard that they might be having problem with the online version since they are starting (or already started) a new website for the newspaper. They will eliminate the cspnv.com site in the near future.

As of John Chemaly Jr. and his father John Chemaly, just like Glenda said, they are not in the arrested group. Of the 8 arrested, 7 will remain so till they appear next thursday infront of a judge of instructions. The eightth might be release (or has already been released) after her lawyers protested her detention.

In addition some 6 other people were also arrested in the raid, but this because they were staying illegally on the island.



The eightth might be release(or already  has been released) after HER lawyers protested HER detention.  Wonder which initials belong to the woman?
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« Reply #355 on: September 26, 2007, 11:44:23 AM »

Maybe Hotshots still has the For Sale information on Astrid's house.  Must be positively huge to accommodate up to 250 at meeting with 8 bedroom suites of 700 sq ft each.
Hi guys, yes I do have pics, but I am not at home.  When I get home later I will post the pics for you.....

Here ya go.  Hope it helps.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a118/kath8700/nats/janaruba229.jpg
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« Reply #356 on: September 26, 2007, 11:53:15 AM »

This is a video of the import / export area she owns.
http://s10.photobucket.com/albums/a118/kath8700/nats/?action=view&current=janaruba247.flv

I am now going to try to find that sign for you...
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« Reply #357 on: September 26, 2007, 11:55:27 AM »

Per MF at RU - first addressing the Arubatoday issue then the arrests:

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I heard that they might be having problem with the online version since they are starting (or already started) a new website for the newspaper. They will eliminate the cspnv.com site in the near future.

As of John Chemaly Jr. and his father John Chemaly, just like Glenda said, they are not in the arrested group. Of the 8 arrested, 7 will remain so till they appear next thursday infront of a judge of instructions. The eightth might be release (or has already been released) after her lawyers protested her detention.

In addition some 6 other people were also arrested in the raid, but this because they were staying illegally on the island.



The eightth might be release(or already  has been released) after HER lawyers protested HER detention.  Wonder which initials belong to the woman?

I just received an email suggesting the HER may have been Luis Mansur's wife.
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« Reply #359 on: September 26, 2007, 12:04:35 PM »

Doesn't say the footage.  sorry.  But you can see the name of the realtor, and number.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a118/kath8700/nats/lvrsign.jpg

Astrids house is here
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