Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 - 9/30/2007

[sb]

Anna, it hasn't been proven yet that Luis Mansur is actually guilty of doing anything yet. I am fully aware that ALE is known to arrest the wrong people, Mickey John and Abraham Jones can tell us about that. So yes the political retribution factor is large in my thinking too.

What DEEPLY troubles me is that KLPD was in on it too. Not. Good.

This implies that they are complicit w/ALE, and if so, that's the ballgame, folks. 

[sb]

Going to head out for the evening... been a while since our Cage has been a' hoppin' like this! Everybody take a deep breath and all keep hanging in there.

[Anna]

America's Most Wanted Drug Smuggler Diego Montoya Caught in Colombia
Monday, September 10, 2007

BOGOTA, Colombia  —  America's most-wanted drug trafficker has been captured in Colombia, dealing a major blow to the country's largest remaining cocaine cartel, the government said Monday.

Diego Montoya, who sits alongside Osama Bin Ladin on the FBI's 10 most-wanted fugitives list, allegedly leads the Norte del Valle cartel, Colombia's most powerful and dangerous drug organization. The FBI says the cartel has exported many tons of cocaine to the United States from the world's No. 1 cocaine-producing nation.

The FBI had offered $5 million for information leading to the arrest of Montoya, who put up no resistance as he was captured by the army on a small farm in the cartel stronghold of Valle del Cauca state, said Mario Iguaran, Colombia's chief federal prosecutor.

Colombians see Montoya's capture as the biggest victory in the drug war since Medellin Cartel leader Pablo Escobar was killed in a 1993 shootout.

Authorities have been closing in on his cartel since last year, when the army killed eight members of a private army believed to be protecting Montoya, but a wide network of cartel informants frustrated the search by police and soldiers.

Better known as "Don Diego," Montoya has been in a bitter turf war with the Norte de Valle cartel's other leader, Wilber Varela, who goes by the nom de guerre "Jabon," or "Soap," and is reported to be living in Venezuela.

Hundreds have been killed in battles between their rival armed militias along Colombia's Pacific coast.

A U.S. indictment filed in 2004 against Montoya and Varela said that in the previous 14 years, their cartel had exported more than 1.2 million pounds -- or 500 metric tons -- of cocaine worth more than $10 billion from Colombia to Mexico and ultimately to the United States for resale.

Montoya's brother, Eugenio Montoya, was captured in Colombia in January. Another top Montoya associate, Juan Carlos Ramirez Abadia, was captured in Brazil last month. It was unclear however, whether that arrest led to Montoya's capture.

The Norte del Valle cartel rose in the mid-1990s from the ashes of the Medellin and Cali cocaine cartels, paying for drugs and protection from both far-right paramilitaries and leftist rebels.

Montoya has been in the headlines recently as another scandal grows over his cartel's alleged infiltration of Colombia's army and navy.

Since taking office in 2002, President Alvaro Uribe, a key U.S. ally in Latin America, has approved the extradition of more than 540 Colombians to the United States, the majority on drug-trafficking charges.
For his aggressive stance, the United States has awarded Colombia with more than $700 million in annual anti-narcotics and military aid.

Most of those extradited are suspected of being low or midlevel drug traffickers, however.

High-profile extraditions have included Gilberto and Miguel Rodriguez Orejuela, brothers who helped found the Cali cartel.

Colombia is the source of 90 percent of the cocaine entering the United States. Supply has remained robust despite record extraditions and eradication of coca crops.

The Norte del Valle cartel appeared to learn from the successes and failures of earlier cartels. Escobar and the Rodriguez Orjuela brothers seemed comfortable in the limelight that eventually brought them down. This newer generation of traffickers sought a lower profile, and learned to use unrestrained violence at the slightest provocation.

One high-ranking Norte del Valle cartel member, Victor Patino, who decided to testify in the U.S. saw at least 35 family members and friends slaughtered in retaliation for his betrayal.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296303,00.html?sPage=fnc.world/americas


And is somebody singing?  This reminder was compliments of Jamie at BFN.  Had forgotten about this Big Fish arrest just a few days back.

[Angiex911dsptchr]

BTW, speaking of bookstores (and books), I have been aggravated to find that here in Natalee's hometown, so far the local Wal-Mart has yet to stock Beth's book. At least in the part of town I live in. They were slow on the draw with Dave's book, too. Sad.

  Dont feel bad SB.. I went to my local Wal~Mart before work today and they dont have it out yet either.. Pfffttt. i called the other one thats not REAL far form me where I grew up then.. NOPE.. not out there either.   I do have one ordered thru Amazon... But still going to keep checking our Walmart.
  ROB.. can you do me a favor?    Can you call your Walmart and ask if they have any left??   TY.

[wreck]

Anna, it hasn't been proven yet that Luis Mansur is actually guilty of doing anything yet. I am fully aware that ALE is known to arrest the wrong people, Mickey John and Abraham Jones can tell us about that. So yes the political retribution factor is large in my thinking too.

What DEEPLY troubles me is that KLPD was in on it too. Not. Good.

This implies that they are complicit w/ALE, and if so, that's the ballgame, folks. 

Just because KLPD is working with ALE on THIS issue -- doesn't mean they are complicitous on ALL ALE related issues. They would HAVE to have some cooperation with ALE to stage a bust of this magnitude. That doesn't mean they can't still bring the CORRUPT elements of ALE and the government. M.O.

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Going to head out for the evening... been a while since our Cage has been a' hoppin' like this! Everybody take a deep breath and all keep hanging in there.

 Good night and sweet dreams to you SB.

[klaasend]

Going to head out for the evening... been a while since our Cage has been a' hoppin' like this! Everybody take a deep breath and all keep hanging in there.

Nite SB

[klaasend]

Anna - interresting, maybe he is singing?

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Klaas?  Did your Wal~Mart get Beths book in yet?

[klaasend]

Klaas?  Did your Wal~Mart get Beths book in yet?

Last I checked NO.  From what I can tell a couple different stores in PA had it and a store in VA had it.  Also, you were able to order online from Walmart but it looks like those books aren't being shipped right away.

So to answer your question, NO.

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Klaas?  Did your Wal~Mart get Beths book in yet?

Last I checked NO.  From what I can tell a couple different stores in PA had it and a store in VA had it.  Also, you were able to order online from Walmart but it looks like those books aren't being shipped right away.

So to answer your question, NO.

 Bummer

Rob dont live all that far from me. Strange their store has it out and ours dont?   

[Anna]

Angie,
Neither of the Walmart Superstores in my area have it either so I ordered it from Walmart online.  Says it will arrive tomorrow but also says still processing the order so I doubt that it does.

[klaasend]

Klaas?  Did your Wal~Mart get Beths book in yet?

Last I checked NO.  From what I can tell a couple different stores in PA had it and a store in VA had it.  Also, you were able to order online from Walmart but it looks like those books aren't being shipped right away.

So to answer your question, NO.

 Bummer

Rob dont live all that far from me. Strange their store has it out and ours dont?   

Yeah, I don't know why some stores have had it and some not.

[MuffyBee]

I checked the greater Austin Walmart stores and a few surrounding ones, with no luck either

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Angie,
Neither of the Walmart Superstores in my area have it either so I ordered it from Walmart online.  Says it will arrive tomorrow but also says still processing the order so I doubt that it does.

 TY Anna.. and Muffy and Klaas.. Guess I am impatient waiting for Amazon .  lol
Have a great night everyone.  I try and keep up.. but been super busy with work..  and hubby not well again either.

[klaasend]

Angie,
Neither of the Walmart Superstores in my area have it either so I ordered it from Walmart online.  Says it will arrive tomorrow but also says still processing the order so I doubt that it does.

 TY Anna.. and Muffy and Klaas.. Guess I am impatient waiting for Amazon .  lol
Have a great night everyone.  I try and keep up.. but been super busy with work..  and hubby not well again either.

Sorry to hear about your husband Angie.  Nite

[igsigs]

Book

First night...

"The Holiday Inn night manager, Brenda, knows him by name. 'Oh! Yes...yes...Joran. He gambles in the Excelsior Casino here. He likes to prey on young female tourists. Especially the blonds. He is tall. Good looking boy. Like a Dutch marine'."

[klaasend]

Book

First night...

"The Holiday Inn night manager, Brenda, knows him by name. 'Oh! Yes...yes...Joran. He gambles in the Excelsior Casino here. He likes to prey on young female tourists. Especially the blonds. He is tall. Good looking boy. Like a Dutch marine'."

Thanks Igsigs

[igsigs]

Per book,  *bumped her head*, *hit her head*...came from the first night (Joran/Deepak) stories. 

[Frank]

They bashed her in the head after she was already dead. This to support a lie. Yes it was done in haste since this savages only get reruns of Hawaii 5-0 and know that whileGerold Dompig may be an actor, he ain't no Jack Lord.