Natalee Case Discussion #684 10/3 - 10/7/2007

[NYC_lover]

Good morning all 

Does somebody know who this persons been?
Thank you.
Part1
http://youtube.com/watch?v=he9wdCA11QU
Part2
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rsO1GpS056Q

The maker of the video is Pietjezz who I believe is in that video. He is a Aruban living in Holland and he knows a couple of the people that were questioned in this case(Lorenzo and Max)

Ok thank you *******. Pietjezz is Chris from yadoneknow.com right?

[Rob]

June 21, 2005 Covers all the search areas of Aruba

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3k6EI2KLqCE

Other's involved in Max's case.

Adolf Cruz from Search and Rescue - 297 - 962 - 1380

V.D. Stuater. (Appears to be a cop, phone number - 297 - 587 - 0009 Polis Station.)

Debra Bolten - U.S. Council.

Mr. Vera - Hotel Security.

Beach Patrol - 297 - 586 - 3003

[Observer]

Good morning all 

Does somebody know who this persons been?
Thank you.
Part1
http://youtube.com/watch?v=he9wdCA11QU
Part2
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rsO1GpS056Q

The maker of the video is Pietjezz who I believe is in that video. He is a Aruban living in Holland and he knows a couple of the people that were questioned in this case(Lorenzo and Max)

Ok thank you *******. Pietjezz is Chris from yadoneknow.com right?

Correct..

[NYC_lover]

Good morning all 

Does somebody know who this persons been?
Thank you.
Part1
http://youtube.com/watch?v=he9wdCA11QU
Part2
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rsO1GpS056Q

Are you referring to the person that posted the videos? PietjeZz? He's in Holland. He left me some messages on my You  Tube account a few months ago.

Yes Rob, and who is in that video. That boy is so cute. And his music..... whahah very good, that I become crazy of that very good music.

[Observer]

June 21, 2005 Covers all the search areas of Aruba

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3k6EI2KLqCE

Other's involved in Max's case.

Adolf Cruz from Search and Rescue - 297 - 962 - 1380

V.D. Stuater. (Appears to be a cop, phone number - 297 - 587 - 0009 Polis Station.)

Debra Bolten - U.S. Council.

Mr. Vera - Hotel Security.

Beach Patrol - 297 - 586 - 3003

Sounds like he is a expert in searching on that island..And when asked where he would hide a object..He said Land..

[NYC_lover]

Good morning all 

Does somebody know who this persons been?
Thank you.
Part1
http://youtube.com/watch?v=he9wdCA11QU
Part2
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rsO1GpS056Q

The maker of the video is Pietjezz who I believe is in that video. He is a Aruban living in Holland and he knows a couple of the people that were questioned in this case(Lorenzo and Max)

Ok thank you *******. Pietjezz is Chris from yadoneknow.com right?

Correct..

Thanks again.
Your Welcome

[Rob]

June 21, 2005 Covers all the search areas of Aruba

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3k6EI2KLqCE

Other's involved in Max's case.

Adolf Cruz from Search and Rescue - 297 - 962 - 1380

V.D. Stuater. (Appears to be a cop, phone number - 297 - 587 - 0009 Polis Station.)

Debra Bolten - U.S. Council.

Mr. Vera - Hotel Security.

Beach Patrol - 297 - 586 - 3003

Sounds like he is a expert in searching on that island..And when asked where he would hide a object..He said Land..

"It's not the first time they've found bodies in the dunes here on the North Shore"

HUH???

look at the caption. This is roughly 10-11 days after the Aru-bay videos were posted. What is he truly saying here?

[Rob]

Good morning all 

Does somebody know who this persons been?
Thank you.
Part1
http://youtube.com/watch?v=he9wdCA11QU
Part2
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rsO1GpS056Q

Are you referring to the person that posted the videos? PietjeZz? He's in Holland. He left me some messages on my You  Tube account a few months ago.

Yes Rob, and who is in that video. That boy is so cute. And his music..... whahah very good, that I become crazy of that very good music.

LOL

[Anna]

Off to read more in the book.  I am reading slowly and making it last.  Already when this ordeal is over, I am hoping Beth will write another on the conclusion which I hope is a just one.

G'nite!

.

yes, I hope Beth will write another going into more depth and writing in more details and areas where now wouldn't be the best time to do it.

Anna, an interested in how you use each color of pencil to organize your thoughts in your book reading. I have always wanted to do that but never knew how to start

The book would be extra colorful at the end and you could make a beautiful rainbox.

IBE,

I will use the colors something like this but on second reading only:

Red = anything new I have not read before

Blue = strong inspirational to remember or re-read in hard times

Green = something I have questions about (Green for Go as in go ask questions)

Yellow = Things that incriminate the known suspects since they are such cowards

And so forth.

[NYC_lover]

Good morning all 

Does somebody know who this persons been?
Thank you.
Part1
http://youtube.com/watch?v=he9wdCA11QU
Part2
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rsO1GpS056Q

Are you referring to the person that posted the videos? PietjeZz? He's in Holland. He left me some messages on my You  Tube account a few months ago.

Yes Rob, and who is in that video. That boy is so cute. And his music..... whahah very good, that I become crazy of that very good music.

LOL

Rob do u know, when there is lol and fun, when I invisted him, or boy what look like on him, at my home.
That is the hell complete.  ....lol..

[Helen Back]

Well, well, I see that Mr. Sam Redman still won't own up to his deceitful comment over at Amazon.com.  Klaas called him out for posting his own bogus travel website as Beth's.  Now he's got a pathetic story about his "honest" mistake.  Snipped from Amazon's reviews and comments:

    * Overall: 5

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klaasend
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You have posting the url link to the bogus site YOU created and have suggested it's Beth's site. This was not an honest mistake but a clear attempt to deceive.

The url to Beth's site is: http://www.internationalsafetravelsfoundation.org
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S. Redman
It was an honest mistake and not an attempt to deceive. The safetravels.org site was actually registered and then created several hours after this review was posted. What happened was that after I wrote the review, I typed it into my browser... trying to go there myself. When I couldn't... next, I went to a registrar to see if I could register it. I was able to and the rest is history (I created the new site on the fly). Then... I edited this review and changed that old website reference to reflect the actual name of the foundation (and now that "edit" has been "published". But, Amazon says, it will take 48 hours to show the edited version.)

Here is the edit I made:

"I came away convinced that Beth's reasoning in starting her safetravelsfoundation group really is the most logical avenue for her to accomplish some benefit to others from her own traumatic circumstances (and have a legal vehicle for managing various contributions)."

Plus, I did a screen cap of what Amazon shows as my edited version (in my profile)... and you can see that here until it appears:

http://safetravels.org/editedreview.jpg

So, I guess I will just have to wait for it. I could delete the review... but since these corrections have been made... there is no need for that.
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 :roll:some serious back-peddling going on!

[klaasend]

Well, well, I see that Mr. Sam Redman still won't own up to his deceitful comment over at Amazon.com.  Klaas called him out for posting his own bogus travel website as Beth's.  Now he's got a pathetic story about his "honest" mistake.  Snipped from Amazon's reviews and comments:

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klaasend
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You have posting the url link to the bogus site YOU created and have suggested it's Beth's site. This was not an honest mistake but a clear attempt to deceive.

The url to Beth's site is: http://www.internationalsafetravelsfoundation.org
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S. Redman
It was an honest mistake and not an attempt to deceive. The safetravels.org site was actually registered and then created several hours after this review was posted. What happened was that after I wrote the review, I typed it into my browser... trying to go there myself. When I couldn't... next, I went to a registrar to see if I could register it. I was able to and the rest is history (I created the new site on the fly). Then... I edited this review and changed that old website reference to reflect the actual name of the foundation (and now that "edit" has been "published". But, Amazon says, it will take 48 hours to show the edited version.)

Here is the edit I made:

"I came away convinced that Beth's reasoning in starting her safetravelsfoundation group really is the most logical avenue for her to accomplish some benefit to others from her own traumatic circumstances (and have a legal vehicle for managing various contributions)."

Plus, I did a screen cap of what Amazon shows as my edited version (in my profile)... and you can see that here until it appears:

http://safetravels.org/editedreview.jpg

So, I guess I will just have to wait for it. I could delete the review... but since these corrections have been made... there is no need for that.
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 :roll:some serious back-peddling going on!

He's a real piece of work and FOS.  I reported his post as inappropriate as well but I'm sure it will stand. 

[klaasend]

NEW FRONT PAGE POST:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2007/10/07/beth-twitty-in-aruba-loving-natalee-i-can-bear-the-pain-of-losing-natalee-if-i-can-save-another-life/

Beth Twitty in Aruba: ‘Loving Natalee’ … “I can bear the pain of losing Natalee if I can save another life”

[klaasend]

Beth Holloway Signs New Book Titled ‘Loving Natalee

Last Edited: Saturday, 06 Oct 2007, 6:22 PM CDT
Created: Saturday, 06 Oct 2007, 6:22 PM CDT

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (WBRC-TV MyFoxAL.com) -- Beth Holloway held a book signing on Saturday for her new book titled ‘Loving Natalee.’ The memoir recounts her harrowing days and years since the sudden disappearance of her daughter Natalee Holloway on her senior trip to Aruba.

http://www.myfoxal.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=4565274&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=3.2.1

Click on picture to watch video:

[klaasend]

From RU and Siddalee (Renfro's mom).  An example of how many in Aruba and their relatives think 


Siddalee Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:30 am   

After all, if Natalee had been a lady that night none of this would have happened. IMO.

 

[JusticeforNatalee]

Red and Klaas,

Thanks for always showing the utmost respect for Natalee and Beth.

Thanks for disallowing their known enemies to post here and for blocking disrespectful posts. You have provided a forum in which Natalee's supporters can be strongly united in the quest for truth and justice.

[JusticeforNatalee]

From RU and Siddalee (Renfro's mom).  An example of how many in Aruba and their relatives think 


Siddalee Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:30 am   

After all, if Natalee had been a lady that night none of this would have happened. IMO.

 

Wrong! If JORAN had been a REAL MAN that night, and had taken Natalee back to her hotel, this tragedy would never have happened.

[klaasend]

J4N - there is no doubt in my mind Natalee thought she was getting a ride back to her hotel.  That didn't happen.  That is kidnapping.  Where are the kidnapping charges?

[JusticeforNatalee]

The behavior in question is not Natalee's but that of Joran.

It was JORAN's poor choices that evening that caused this tragedy.

[Rob]

From RU and Siddalee (Renfro's mom).  An example of how many in Aruba and their relatives think 


Siddalee Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:30 am   

After all, if Natalee had been a lady that night none of this would have happened. IMO.

 

just what happened? Thought Beth removed her from the island and poured hot coffee on all the innocent Arubans that tried sooooooooooooooo valiantly to help.

what a load of ****

Maybe if Aruba had forced castration after the first of 20 times it happened none of this would have happened.