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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #684 10/3 -
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Reply #300 on:
October 04, 2007, 08:48:06 PM »
Quote from: Buckeye on October 04, 2007, 08:35:22 PM
Quote from: klaasend on October 04, 2007, 08:21:29 PM
Quote from: Buckeye on October 04, 2007, 08:16:29 PM
From Jonathon45 at scrux
The investigation to clearify the missing of Natalee Holloway will be closed and the suspect status of Deepak, Satish and Joran will end within 30 days if there are no further [new] developments during this month.
That was a message on Dutch television this evening. [RTLboulevard - crime journalist John van den heuvel]
???
I'll check the website but I think November has already been mentioned as the month when ALE/KLPD will decide whether or not to bring the case to trial.
I was just wondering if Robert or anyone has posted. It's not a huge surprise if true.
I checked website but have a hard time navigating. Will check a couple other places.
In case anyone is interested, you can go to Google News then pick Netherlands then enter search terms. Of course you then have to translate what you find. Aruba and Holloway and Sloot do turn up some hits.
There's a short video. I suspect that's where they mention it. Part of the video is Greta so it's in English:
http://www.rtl.nl//actueel/rtlboulevard/video/2007_week40.xml
04-10: Boek 3 over Natalee Holloway
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #684 10/3 -
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October 04, 2007, 08:50:23 PM »
Quote from: klaasend on October 04, 2007, 08:48:06 PM
Quote from: Buckeye on October 04, 2007, 08:35:22 PM
Quote from: klaasend on October 04, 2007, 08:21:29 PM
Quote from: Buckeye on October 04, 2007, 08:16:29 PM
From Jonathon45 at scrux
The investigation to clearify the missing of Natalee Holloway will be closed and the suspect status of Deepak, Satish and Joran will end within 30 days if there are no further [new] developments during this month.
That was a message on Dutch television this evening. [RTLboulevard - crime journalist John van den heuvel]
???
I'll check the website but I think November has already been mentioned as the month when ALE/KLPD will decide whether or not to bring the case to trial.
I was just wondering if Robert or anyone has posted. It's not a huge surprise if true.
I checked website but have a hard time navigating. Will check a couple other places.
In case anyone is interested, you can go to Google News then pick Netherlands then enter search terms. Of course you then have to translate what you find. Aruba and Holloway and Sloot do turn up some hits.
There's a short video. I suspect that's where they mention it. Part of the video is Greta so it's in English:
http://www.rtl.nl//actueel/rtlboulevard/video/2007_week40.xml
04-10: Boek 3 over Natalee Holloway
Maybe this website:
http://www.elsevier.nl/nieuws/nederland/artikel/asp/artnr/51768/index.html
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #684 10/3 -
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Quote from: klaasend on October 04, 2007, 08:44:30 PM
Janet
- FYI, someone on Greta's blog has used your nickname. I just wanted YOU to know that I KNOW it's not you.
I know also. Anyone that's read here at all, would know it's not you.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #684 10/3 -
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October 04, 2007, 09:01:35 PM »
Quote from: klaasend on October 04, 2007, 08:48:06 PM
Quote from: Buckeye on October 04, 2007, 08:35:22 PM
Quote from: klaasend on October 04, 2007, 08:21:29 PM
Quote from: Buckeye on October 04, 2007, 08:16:29 PM
From Jonathon45 at scrux
The investigation to clearify the missing of Natalee Holloway will be closed and the suspect status of Deepak, Satish and Joran will end within 30 days if there are no further [new] developments during this month.
That was a message on Dutch television this evening. [RTLboulevard - crime journalist John van den heuvel]
???
I'll check the website but I think November has already been mentioned as the month when ALE/KLPD will decide whether or not to bring the case to trial.
I was just wondering if Robert or anyone has posted. It's not a huge surprise if true.
I checked website but have a hard time navigating. Will check a couple other places.
In case anyone is interested, you can go to Google News then pick Netherlands then enter search terms. Of course you then have to translate what you find. Aruba and Holloway and Sloot do turn up some hits.
There's a short video. I suspect that's where they mention it. Part of the video is Greta so it's in English:
http://www.rtl.nl//actueel/rtlboulevard/video/2007_week40.xml
04-10: Boek 3 over Natalee Holloway
You are definately the best. I was lost in "whatever" land. Maybe Robert or someone will see the link and update us.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #684 10/3 -
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Quote from: klaasend on October 04, 2007, 08:44:30 PM
Janet
- FYI, someone on Greta's blog has used your nickname. I just wanted YOU to know that I KNOW it's not you.
Klaas ... could you please provide me with the link.
When I post on Greta's blog ... Tamikosmom automatically come up in the comment section. I cannot understand unless nicks can be used more than once.
Thanks for the heads up.
Hey ... I have happy you finally have in your possession LOVING NATALEE. Now you only have to make time for youself to read it. Please do that.
Janet
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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Blue Moon
Nice link. Thanks. Didn't see a Natalee or Aruba story on current front page.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #684 10/3 -
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October 04, 2007, 09:06:07 PM »
Quote from: Tamikosmom on October 04, 2007, 09:03:22 PM
Quote from: klaasend on October 04, 2007, 08:44:30 PM
Janet
- FYI, someone on Greta's blog has used your nickname. I just wanted YOU to know that I KNOW it's not you.
Klaas ... could you please provide me with the link.
When I post on Greta's blog ... Tamikosmom automatically come up in the comment section. I cannot understand unless nicks can be used more than once.
Thanks for the heads up.
Hey ... I have happy you finally have in your possession LOVING NATALEE. Now you only have to make time for youself to read it. Please do that.
Janet
The comment on the following link is mine. I think it is typical Tamikosmom style.
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/10/03/wed-10pm-show-post-your-comments-right-here/
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #684 10/3 -
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Quote from: Buckeye on October 04, 2007, 09:05:40 PM
Blue Moon
Nice link. Thanks. Didn't see a Natalee or Aruba story on current front page.
when I click on the link it has a "Missing" poster of Natalee and a story on Holloway.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #684 10/3 -
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October 04, 2007, 09:09:36 PM »
Quote from: Buckeye on October 04, 2007, 08:57:27 PM
Quote from: klaasend on October 04, 2007, 08:44:30 PM
Janet
- FYI, someone on Greta's blog has used your nickname. I just wanted YOU to know that I KNOW it's not you.
I know also. Anyone that's read here at all, would know it's not you.
Link please.
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #684 10/3 -
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October 04, 2007, 09:10:12 PM »
Quote from: Tamikosmom on October 04, 2007, 09:03:22 PM
Quote from: klaasend on October 04, 2007, 08:44:30 PM
Janet
- FYI, someone on Greta's blog has used your nickname. I just wanted YOU to know that I KNOW it's not you.
Klaas ... could you please provide me with the link.
When I post on Greta's blog ... Tamikosmom automatically come up in the comment section. I cannot understand unless nicks can be used more than once.
Thanks for the heads up.
Hey ... I have happy you finally have in your possession LOVING NATALEE. Now you only have to make time for youself to read it. Please do that.
Janet
Nicks can be used more than once it seems. Whoever used your nickname would have a different email address and Greta's people could see that. Very hard to control the nicknames people use on Blogs. We have people using other peoples nicknames on the front page of SM all the time.
Here is the post - REMINDER, this is not OUR Janet:
Comment by Tamikosmom
October 4th, 2007 at 7:44 pm
KLAASEND a/ka/ klaasshole is one of those “devotees” that sells anything Natalee, from cookbooks wth the poor girls picture on it to coffee mugs with the poor girls face on it to fridge magnets with the poor girls face on it. Totally penny ante leech and parasite peddling junk to make a few dollars of the poor girl.
Pretty gross and indecent.
All hiddent behind the facade of “care” and “justice”
FYI - none of the above post is true. We have never sold items at SM, either cookbook or mugs or anything with Natalee's picture or name on it unless someone happened to use a pic of Natalee as their avatar.
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Janet
- so that you know, I did post on Greta's blog that the person was not you, they were impersonating you. When Greta processes my post I'll show you what I said.
Edited to add the link to Greta's post where these particular comments are:
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/10/04/did-beth-sneak-natalee-out-of-aruba-on-a-plane/#comment-23163
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Quote from: klaasend on October 04, 2007, 09:10:12 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on October 04, 2007, 09:03:22 PM
Quote from: klaasend on October 04, 2007, 08:44:30 PM
Janet
- FYI, someone on Greta's blog has used your nickname. I just wanted YOU to know that I KNOW it's not you.
Klaas ... could you please provide me with the link.
When I post on Greta's blog ... Tamikosmom automatically come up in the comment section. I cannot understand unless nicks can be used more than once.
Thanks for the heads up.
Hey ... I have happy you finally have in your possession LOVING NATALEE. Now you only have to make time for youself to read it. Please do that.
Janet
Nicks can be used more than once it seems. Whoever used your nickname would have a different email address and Greta's people could see that. Very hard to control the nicknames people use on Blogs. We have people using other peoples nicknames on the front page of SM all the time.
Here is the post - REMINDER, this is not OUR Janet:
Comment by Tamikosmom
October 4th, 2007 at 7:44 pm
KLAASEND a/ka/ klaasshole is one of those “devotees” that sells anything Natalee, from cookbooks wth the poor girls picture on it to coffee mugs with the poor girls face on it to fridge magnets with the poor girls face on it. Totally penny ante leech and parasite peddling junk to make a few dollars of the poor girl.
Pretty gross and indecent.
All hiddent behind the facade of “care” and “justice”
FYI - none of the above post is true. We have never sold items at SM, either cookbook or mugs or anything with Natalee's picture or name on it unless someone happened to use a pic of Natalee as their avatar.
Thanks Klaas
Another avenue for the trolls to further their cruel campaign that is denying justice for Natalee.
I am sorry that you were dragged into this posters cruelty.
I have learned so much over the past 2 1/2 years in regards to the dark side of human nature that I never knew existed except in the headlines.
Nevertheless ...
I would still appreciate a link.
It is obviously not the comment section that I posted on this morning in response to the Beth/Greta Aruban video.
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/10/03/wed-10pm-show-post-your-comments-right-here/
Janet
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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From Scrux:
Jonathan45
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:50 pm Post subject:
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EPILOGUE IV
Joran's book hides the truth .......... Joran's book is a confession
It's time, now Joran has made his last statement, to ask Deepak and Satish again to tell their story with Joran's book on the table about what happened at the gate of the VDSresidence at 1.40am Monday may 30, 2005.
In his book Joran gave Natalee at that moment a tongue that brought her to the beach. Natalee:" I don't want to go to your house but to the beach" [page 87] after he admitted that he had the intention to have sex with her in his apartment and that after the sexual encounter he would call her a cab to let her bring back to the Holiday Inn.
Joran on page 84: It is her intention to have sex with me at my place. She didn't ask me that directly, but her bodylanguage told me that sex was her intention. Natalee doesn't speak to Deepak and Satish. Without asking me who they were, she got in the car.
It's time for Deepak and Satish to unseal their lips about 1.40am and their own lying truth in this 'no body no case' scenario on the night Natalee disappeared.
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EPILOGUE V
The investigation to clearify the missing of Natalee Holloway will be closed and the suspect status of Deepak, Satish and Joran will end within 30 days if there are no further [new] developments during this month.
That was a message on Dutch television this evening. [RTLboulevard - crime journalist John van den heuvel]
If this is true it is showing the incapability of the tactical team during this investigation. It is showing how Joran's 'mindf***ing' did succeed. It is showing the blindness of those who call themselves 'profilers'. It is showing that no body means no dumpspot, no remains, no traces to search for possible DNA and other forensic material. It is showing that the forensic team failed in their operations. It is also showing the pathogene web of double binds within the system, within the KLPD, within 'het OM'[ the prosecution] and within the Aruban and Dutch government.
The disappearance of Natalee Holloway will become a coldcase.
The system wants it to be a bunch of dusty files on a shelf.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #684 10/3 -
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Janet
- it's in this area. Greta hasn't processed my comment about it yet
Here's the link:
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/10/04/did-beth-sneak-natalee-out-of-aruba-on-a-plane/#comment-23163
FYI - I get dragged into it all the time by RUFOB. I'm used to it
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Evening Monkeys! Just returned from the ATL book signing. masmarples got a bouquet of beautiful yellow roses from the scared monkeys and a card we all signed. Enjoyed meeting msmarples, sunfreak and yapperz. I have photos . . .
Klass
should I post them here or would you prefer the book thread?
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Quote from: shadow on October 04, 2007, 09:29:54 PM
Evening Monkeys! Just returned from the ATL book signing. masmarples got a bouquet of beautiful yellow roses from the scared monkeys and a card we all signed. Enjoyed meeting msmarples, sunfreak and yapperz. I have photos . . .
Klass
should I post them here or would you prefer the book thread?
Very cool!! Please go ahead and post them here and I'll copy and post in the book thread myself.
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Beth's Book Signing in Atlanta
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Evening Monkeys
I also just got home & wanted to tell everyone who didn't get to join us, we had a wonderful time. Beth was very gracious & well spoken as usual. She is such an inspiration!!
I really enjoyed getting to meet Shadow & was great to see MsMarple & Sunfreak again.
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Quote from: klaasend on October 04, 2007, 09:14:25 PM
Janet
- so that you know, I did post on Greta's blog that the person was not you, they were impersonating you. When Greta processes my post I'll show you what I said.
Edited to add the link to Greta's post where these particular comments are:
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/10/04/did-beth-sneak-natalee-out-of-aruba-on-a-plane/#comment-23163
Thanks Klaas.
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #684 10/3 -
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October 04, 2007, 09:40:42 PM »
Quote from: Tamikosmom on October 04, 2007, 09:36:47 PM
Quote from: klaasend on October 04, 2007, 09:14:25 PM
Janet
- so that you know, I did post on Greta's blog that the person was not you, they were impersonating you. When Greta processes my post I'll show you what I said.
Edited to add the link to Greta's post where these particular comments are:
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/10/04/did-beth-sneak-natalee-out-of-aruba-on-a-plane/#comment-23163
Thanks Klaas.
Thanks again!
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To: Comment by Tamikosmom
October 4th, 2007 at 7:44 pm
#1 This person is attempting to impersonate a highly intelligent and thoughful poster by the name of Tamikosmom. I know THIS one is a fake.
#2 Please show me where I or Scared Monkeys has sold anything with Natalee’s name attached to it. You are 100% incorrect.
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
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High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
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=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
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Missing, Exploited and True Crime
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=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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Current Events and Musings
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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