Natalee Case Discussion #686 10/14 - 10/22

[Rob]

I vote Anita as an author.

Libelle interview June 2007:


“Twee jaar geleden, in mei, werd mijn oma negentig jaar. Ik was in Nederland om haar verjaardag te vieren. Kort voor ik weer terug zou keren naar Aruba, belde mijn man Paul me op en vertelde dat op Aruba een meisje werd vermist. En hij zei erbij: ‘Schijnbaar is Joran de laatste geweest die met haar samen was.’ Er ging onmiddellijk van alles door mijn hoofd, allerlei gedachten streden om voorrang. Heel verwarrend vond ik het dat er ook dingen in me opkwamen als: Potverdorie, zondagavond is hij dus blijkbaar uit geweest. Wij wisten van niets, hij moest het huis uit zijn geslopen.”

Two years ago, in May, my grandmother became ninety year.  I was in the Netherlands her birthday to celebrate.  Short for I prevent back would turn to Aruba, rung my man Paul me on and told that on Aruba a girl was missed.  And he said with it:  'Seeming is Joran the last one been that with her together was.' There immediately of everything through my head, all sorts of thoughts priorities fought went.  Quite confusingly found I it that it also compete in me came up as:  Potverdorie, Sunday evening is been he thus apparently out.  We knew had to be demolished by nothing, he it house out."

Buckeye
She would only admit what they know is going to be discovered through phone records. She has to admit there is a reason for the call. She is trapped. So she invents a subliminal reason and strikes first.

hey this *thought printing* is easy . . . come across.

[Nut44x4]

Anna >  NO

I am gonna wait for your summary.  Come across.

Lmao..just need to mention I have had some chuckles over the past few days w/ the 'come across' remarks, lmao. Reminds me a lot of Lieutenant General Russel L. Honore when speaking with the press in the aftermath of Katrina. After each sentence he says 'Over'...lol. Speaking of him, his other famous quote of STUCK ON STUPID fits well w/ FOBRU'ers too 
Loved the Dana show w/ Beth and I just finished her book...very powerful, as Rob put it. I will read it again.....and probably again, just like I did Dave's. Keep up the good work gang.

[igsigs]

The Deepak e-mail is vomitous anyway, and that explains the FOBRU hysterics. Not our Deepak! Pfffft...

The boo-hoo, woe is me act is all a freaking lie. And his willingness to identify the security guard...is pathetic.

[Buckeye]

I vote Anita as an author.

Libelle interview June 2007:


“Twee jaar geleden, in mei, werd mijn oma negentig jaar. Ik was in Nederland om haar verjaardag te vieren. Kort voor ik weer terug zou keren naar Aruba, belde mijn man Paul me op en vertelde dat op Aruba een meisje werd vermist. En hij zei erbij: ‘Schijnbaar is Joran de laatste geweest die met haar samen was.’ Er ging onmiddellijk van alles door mijn hoofd, allerlei gedachten streden om voorrang. Heel verwarrend vond ik het dat er ook dingen in me opkwamen als: Potverdorie, zondagavond is hij dus blijkbaar uit geweest. Wij wisten van niets, hij moest het huis uit zijn geslopen.”

Two years ago, in May, my grandmother became ninety year.  I was in the Netherlands her birthday to celebrate.  Short for I prevent back would turn to Aruba, rung my man Paul me on and told that on Aruba a girl was missed.  And he said with it:  'Seeming is Joran the last one been that with her together was.' There immediately of everything through my head, all sorts of thoughts priorities fought went.  Quite confusingly found I it that it also compete in me came up as:  Potverdorie, Sunday evening is been he thus apparently out.  We knew had to be demolished by nothing, he it house out."

Buckeye
She would only admit what they know is going to be discovered through phone records. She has to admit there is a reason for the call. She is trapped. So she invents a subliminal reason and strikes first.

hey this *thought printing* is easy . . . come across.

Well, if Paulus really thought they dropped her at the HI, he wouldn't have told Anita that Joran was the last one with her.  He wouldn't have been the last one.  He knew the really story and consulted Anita, in Holland. The beginnings of the Dutch attorney.  IMA

[Dayhiker]

Deepak e-mail - June 5th

"...because when this all is over they will still be talks that were the 3 guys that had something to do with the kidnap of natalee..."

When this is over? On June 5th? This is a no/body no/case moment by Deepak.

Right on Igsigs. Implies intimate knowledge that she was disposed of and would not be found, and who would know better than Paulus? I think he and Anita penned the e-mail together.

We even have a statement from Deepak that says Paulus told them to get their stories straight and get on the internet to create an alibi.

[Dayhiker]

The Deepak e-mail is vomitous anyway, and that explains the FOBRU hysterics. Not our Deepak! Pfffft...

The boo-hoo, woe is me act is all a freaking lie. And his willingness to identify the security guard...is pathetic.

No matter what someone thinks of Hodges' scientific methods, he is a sharp person and would not likely base a book around Deepak's e-mail without first making sure it had passed the forensic sniff test.

[Buckeye]

Deepak e-mail - June 5th

"...because when this all is over they will still be talks that were the 3 guys that had something to do with the kidnap of natalee..."

When this is over? On June 5th? This is a no/body no/case moment by Deepak.

Right on Igsigs. Implies intimate knowledge that she was disposed of and would not be found, and who would know better than Paulus? I think he and Anita penned the e-mail together.

We even have a statement from Deepak that says Paulus told them to get their stories straight and get on the internet to create an alibi.

 

Even the made up lie "they will find her in the morning".  Why would someone say such a thing about someone left alive??  Find her??  Not she'll find her way back....she'll wake up with the son....but...they'll find her.....implies death.

[Dayhiker]

Right on Igsigs. Implies intimate knowledge that she was disposed of and would not be found, and who would know better than Paulus? I think he and Anita penned the e-mail together.

We even have a statement from Deepak that says Paulus told them to get their stories straight and get on the internet to create an alibi.

 

Even the made up lie "they will find her in the morning".  Why would someone say such a thing about someone left alive??  Find her??  Not she'll find her way back....she'll wake up with the son....but...they'll find her.....implies death.

Exactly Buckeye, that statement insinuates death, which Deepak would be aware of by June 5th even if he wasn't the night Natalee disappeared.

[Buckeye]

Dayhiker

I believe Deepak knew her fate that night.  I believe the Paulus heart to heart was by the pool that night.  Deepak has a vested interest....his car...perhaps his drugs.  No body goes to the length he does without being in it up to his eyeballs.

[igsigs]

Deepak e-mail time >

Sun,05 Jun 2005 00:33:15 + 0000

What is that?  12:33 am?  Aruba time?

[klaasend]

Link to when the Deepak email was posted by WW:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1539.msg222035#msg222035

Wonderwoman posted the Deepak email at SM on June 21, 2005.  WW explained she had the emails for a few days prior to posting.

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Yes it is an e-mail, from Deepak....


TO ALL:

I just received this had it for a few days, and not quite sure what to do, so I was hoping "we" could pick it apart....I had originally thought to bring to someone's attention but

a) Whose? and wouldn't they have it(confiscated computer)
b) It was not written to me. ( so I feel I need owners permission?)

Yet, now I feel like HERE!!! Take it, anything that could POSSIBLY Help!!

so, I am letting you all in on it, and maybe we can, as an intelligent group, figure out what to do with it.

[Nut44x4]

Deepak e-mail time >

Sun,05 Jun 2005 00:33:15 + 0000

What is that?  12:33 am?  Aruba time?

yes

[Nut44x4]

Posted at TFN by Faith today....
http://truth4natalee.s3.bizhat.com/truth4natalee-forum-66.html


Victor

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007

The Hague- PVDA member John Leerdam has asked States Secretary Bijleveld from Royal Relations and Internal Affairs some questions about the disappearance of the American student Natalee Holloway on Aruba. Reason is the (alleged- see questions-) request of some members of American House of Chambers to hold a hearing about the role the FBI played in the disappearance case.
According to old-police chief Gerold Dompig FBI agents have hindered the investigation, there would have been non cooperation and even threats made. Leerdam has asked Blijeveld for clarification about this.

The questions Leerdam wants an answer to are:

1-Are you aware of a message that some members of the American House of Delegates have appealed for a hearing about the role of the FBI in the investigation of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway? (see attachment 1,).

2-Is it known if this hearing will take place and if so if old police chief Gerold Dompig also will be present at the hearing?

3- What is the current state of the investigation with regard to the second opinion that the KLPD is carrying out on the investigation of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway?

4-when can we expect results from this investigation?

http://www.scrux.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=677

[Tamikosmom]

Dayhiker

I believe Deepak knew her fate that night.  I believe the Paulus heart to heart was by the pool that night.  Deepak has a vested interest....his car...perhaps his drugs.  No body goes to the length he does without being in it up to his eyeballs.

Buckeye

I agree.  Deepak concedes that he attempted to create an alibi through chatting with John Charles Croes on the morning of May 30, 2005.  Why would he feel to the need to create an alibi ... Natalee Holloway had yet to be reported missing.

Janet

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Deepak Kalpoe
Suspect Statement
June 29, 2005

The purpose of the chat traffic was to help the police and the Office of the DA with regard to the investigation so that they could see that I was indeed home in the night from Sunday to Monday. But I have understood that they do not have the chat traffic from that night but that they do have the one from Tuesday. I know the technical procedure, so if they have the one from Tuesday than they should be looking for the one from Sunday to Monday. If I had anything to hide than I would have never told the police about John Charles CROES. Because that just worsened the situation. Even though this never happened, about the girl putting her hands in/down my pants, I would like to know what kind of crime this is. I am again saying this never happened, but it is just my question to the district attorney.

[klaasend]

Nut - thanks...I did post those and Victor's follow up posts last night in this thread. 

[Patti]

Excuse me, Klaas:

I have a couple of posts in my bucket.

Can you please see that they're posted?

TIA

[Buckeye]

Dayhiker

I believe Deepak knew her fate that night.  I believe the Paulus heart to heart was by the pool that night.  Deepak has a vested interest....his car...perhaps his drugs.  No body goes to the length he does without being in it up to his eyeballs.

Buckeye

I agree.  Deepak concedes that he attempted to create an alibi through chatting with John Charles Croes on the morning of May 30, 2005.  Why would he feel to the need to create an alibi ... Natalee Holloway had yet to be reported missing.

Janet

++++++++++++++++++

Deepak Kalpoe
Suspect Statement
June 29, 2005

The purpose of the chat traffic was to help the police and the Office of the DA with regard to the investigation so that they could see that I was indeed home in the night from Sunday to Monday. But I have understood that they do not have the chat traffic from that night but that they do have the one from Tuesday. I know the technical procedure, so if they have the one from Tuesday than they should be looking for the one from Sunday to Monday. If I had anything to hide than I would have never told the police about John Charles CROES. Because that just worsened the situation. Even though this never happened, about the girl putting her hands in/down my pants, I would like to know what kind of crime this is. I am again saying this never happened, but it is just my question to the district attorney.

and Janet....the sentence that preceded the one you posted, is also important:

On your question what made me think that the police would be monitoring our phones, I can say the following. I thought this might happen earlier and Joran had said the same thing to me on Tuesday May 31st 2005*.

Earlier than Tuesday??  Boy, "something real bad must have happened".

[klaasend]

Excuse me, Klaas:

I have a couple of posts in my bucket.

Can you please see that they're posted?

TIA

Patti - they did not go through for a reason and I don't have time to discuss in email right now. 

[Nut44x4]

Nut - thanks...I did post those and Victor's follow up posts last night in this thread. 

ahhhhh...k...guess I missed it.

[klaasend]

Nut - thanks...I did post those and Victor's follow up posts last night in this thread. 

ahhhhh...k...guess I missed it.

No problem..good to post again for others that may have missed it