Natalee Case Discussion #686 10/14 - 10/22

[IBE]

To Refugees:

Just because Dr. Phil's discovery documents asking for EMAILS from Deepak it does not necessarily mean these particular emails.

The HE that has the original emails (according to WW) would be Dr. Hodges that wrote the book, not Dr. Phil.  Why would Dr. Phil ask for something he already has?

Would think Dr. Phil would have a keen interest in these e-mails to help build his case against Deepak as a liar and obstructor of justice.

I'm certain Dr. Phil already has a copy of these Deepak emails.  We can always make sure though 

Right on!

[klaasend]

Is Betty and WW the same person? 

Not unless Betty is a fake name.  I know WW's real name and it's not Betty. 

[Lala'sMom]

Is Betty and WW the same person? 

Not unless Betty is a fake name.  I know WW's real name and it's not Betty. 

Whew! thought I had lost it there for a minute. 

[klaasend]

Is Betty and WW the same person? 

Not unless Betty is a fake name.  I know WW's real name and it's not Betty. 

Whew! thought I had lost it there for a minute. 

LOL 

[Anna]

Is Betty and WW the same person? 

Not unless Betty is a fake name.  I know WW's real name and it's not Betty. 

She once told Darlene of Alabama that her name was Darlene, too.  Maybe it's Betty Darlene, lol!

[Lala'sMom]

So what is the skinny on the van Loon guy?  Is the drug supplier or not?  Was he a decoy?  I am confused about him even though I remember us discussing him before...with Bondia.

[klaasend]

So what is the skinny on the van Loon guy?  Is the drug supplier or not?  Was he a decoy?  I am confused about him even though I remember us discussing him before...with Bondia.

I don't think he had anything to do with the case.  I think he was more likely a decoy than Lorenzo. 

Lorenzo I do feel could be peripherally involved in the case. 

[klaasend]

Is Betty and WW the same person? 

Not unless Betty is a fake name.  I know WW's real name and it's not Betty. 

She once told Darlene of Alabama that her name was Darlene, too.  Maybe it's Betty Darlene, lol!

Good point although I do know WW's last name isn't Darlene or Betty.  I suppose her name could be Betty Darlene XXXXXXX

[Anna]

I think both von Loon and Lorenzo are decoys put out by scubajap and Renfro at around the same time to deflect from Joran.  I have never seen any proof that either are connected to Natalee's disappearance in any way.

JMO

[Lala'sMom]

Well back to Loon...I to think we need to look into him some, since Beth did mention him and Jacobs did try to overlook him and obviously knew who he was from the beginning.  I just can't seem to place him in any of the early conversations from the FP. 

[klaasend]

Well back to Loon...I to think we need to look into him some, since Beth did mention him and Jacobs did try to overlook him and obviously knew who he was from the beginning.  I just can't seem to place him in any of the early conversations from the FP. 

It was Bondia/Glenda that mentioned Von Loon here in the forum.  She's the one who posted pics of him.  He's a beach bum kind of guy and used to have a boat.  He was at the Soul Beach Festival with his sailboat and alot of people. 

It was not Bondia/Glenda that introduced Lorenzo, it was Arubagirl and Nativelingo and it was LONG before we heard of Von Loon or Van Loen or however the correct spelling of his name is.

[Observer]

Well back to Loon...I to think we need to look into him some, since Beth did mention him and Jacobs did try to overlook him and obviously knew who he was from the beginning.  I just can't seem to place him in any of the early conversations from the FP. 

Don't know much about the guy but the way he acted with Beth he leads me to believe he is totally innocent. It seemed like a hot tip the first week with his yellow truck,rubber boat and oil barrel in back called into the tip line..Most likely a decoy called in by Renfro and ANita..I did find it interesting that his first words to Beth were "Im sorry about Natalee" and Beth also stated that she found out he was related to the sloots. I dont think the guy is involved but he probably has some good info from what he has heard from his connections in Aruba.

[Observer]

When I was researching HCGTV.NET I noticed there was a Wonderwoman and a Reality posting the very first week NH went missing. This Reality is also from South Africa but the Reality at BFN says its not him. WW used another name at this site and it wasnt Betty.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2022.0

[Lala'sMom]

If WW forwarded the email to Hodges, then she did not do Deepak any favors.  I thought from what I remember, she was always defending her buddy Deepak. Hmmmmm.

[klaasend]

When I was researching HCGTV.NET I noticed there was a Wonderwoman and a Reality posting the very first week NH went missing. This Reality is also from South Africa but the Reality at BFN says its not him. WW used another name at this site and it wasnt Betty.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2022.0

******* - help me out here so I don't have to read through it all.  What name did she use?  Mazrad?

[klaasend]

If WW forwarded the email to Hodges, then she did not do Deepak any favors.  I thought from what I remember, she was always defending her buddy Deepak. Hmmmmm.

According to WW it was Betty that forwarded the emails to Hodges.

[klaasend]

If WW forwarded the email to Hodges, then she did not do Deepak any favors.  I thought from what I remember, she was always defending her buddy Deepak. Hmmmmm.

According to WW it was Betty that forwarded the emails to Hodges.

[sirensong]

I was told at BFN, when I tried to make the point that Deepak might not be the author, only the sender, that it doesn't matter.  The fact that he planned and sent the email is evidence of his guilt.  Needing an alibi for that night.

Anita was called by Paulus very early with the concern that Joran was the last one with Natalee.  I have a Dutch interview she gave.

Kermit

I only find the Rudy Croes requesting KLPD and their terms for responding on the site you posted.  I couldn't find anything on Interpol and the FBI.

NETHELANDS TO TAKE OVER NATALEE HOLLOWAY CASE:
"Nederland moet Holloway-onderzoek opkrikken"
(Netherlands must revitalise Holloway-investigation)

Here:
http://www.nu.nl/news/810036/10/rss/Nederland_moet_Holloway-onderzoek_opkrikken.html

Aruba has requested Interpol's participation in the investigation.

In the letter, Minister Croes promised that the Dutch agents will get all the cooperation from the investigating-team and the management. Also in the letter it appears that the Minister also made an official request to the Interpol to review the dossier. "As requested by the PG, the Interpol is asked to try to get hold of the not yet released informations by the FBI", wrote the Minister.
http://www.amigoe.com/english/
===================================

If they had let the FBI do what they were ready to do, I am sure they would  know what info the FBI had without asking Interpol for it.  It sounds like Rudy wanted all info from FBI to give to the suspects, so they could change thier stories if needed.  it makes me sick that FBI and Interpol haven't been able to do anything to help this family, as well as the other families of missing people in Aruba.  It is a crime IMO that these agencies don't do something about what is going on in that hellhole. 

[Observer]

When I was researching HCGTV.NET I noticed there was a Wonderwoman and a Reality posting the very first week NH went missing. This Reality is also from South Africa but the Reality at BFN says its not him. WW used another name at this site and it wasnt Betty.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2022.0

******* - help me out here so I don't have to read through it all.  What name did she use?  Mazrad?

I forget..I showed you at the time but I didn't copy it to that thread..Maybee I can find it quickly in my email.. It wasnt Mazrad..

[klaasend]

When I was researching HCGTV.NET I noticed there was a Wonderwoman and a Reality posting the very first week NH went missing. This Reality is also from South Africa but the Reality at BFN says its not him. WW used another name at this site and it wasnt Betty.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2022.0

******* - help me out here so I don't have to read through it all.  What name did she use?  Mazrad?

I forget..I showed you at the time but I didn't copy it to that thread..Maybee I can find it quickly in my email.. It wasnt Mazrad..

Off the top of my head, the names I know she has used are WW, Mazrad, Darzam and Shizam