Natalee Case Discussion #686 10/14 - 10/22

[Observer]

Both are tall and the hair is styled the same...

[Rob]

Picture on right flipped to have the two women looking in the same direction.

[klaasend]

Picture on right flipped to have the two women looking in the same direction.

So who do we think she is?

[Observer]

Does anyone have a picture of the reporter that hung herself? She looked like this woman. But then again, they're all Dutch and you know the saying 

Hard to say since someone hung her over a wall with a blanket covering her. Her partner the camera man wasnt as camera shy when he was hung

[klaasend]

Does anyone have a picture of the reporter that hung herself? She looked like this woman. But then again, they're all Dutch and you know the saying 

Hard to say since someone hung her over a wall with a blanket covering her. Her partner the camera man wasnt as camera shy when he was hung

I have her photos someplace.  She's blonde but other than that she really doesn't look like this gal.

[Rob]

Wasn't the other reporter that committed suicide working on a drag racing story? Could that have involved Race Junkies?

[Observer]

Wasn't the other reporter that committed suicide working on a drag racing story? Could that have involved Race Junkies?

When I researched her that was all I could find,was her reporting a story on Drag Racing in Curacao. Shortly afterwards was that fight in one of the Aruban Bars with one of the Racing teams..Shortly after that she was hung.

[wreck]

Wasn't the other reporter that committed suicide working on a drag racing story? Could that have involved Race Junkies?

You are probably right!  (I always assumed "Race Junkies" referred to Horse Racing.) ( I never really delved into those posts)

[wreck]

I guess I just assumed it was an offshoot of gambling in Aruba (i.e. the sports books there)

[Tamikosmom]

I find it strange that I cannot find David Kock's Interview anywhere(Video or transcript) where he says they stopped at another bar after C&C and Deepak ran in and came out a few minutes later. It was never mentioned again by anyone even after all the disecting of the time-lines and Joran's face to face interview with Greta..I think David Kock slipped when he told us about this little stop and they were either stalling for the date rape drug to take affect or they were letting someone know at that bar that they had Natalee. If the stop was irrelevent then why not talk about it after disecting everything after C&C?

Also not talked about are the 2 phone calls reported to be from Natalee. Yes one of them Charles Croes had listed to with Beth over and over..Strange that was never brought up again 

Birmingham News
June 9, 2005

Satish Kalpoe's attorney, David Kock, said his client told him that van der Sloot asked the Kalpoe brothers to pick him up Sunday night so he could meet up with Holloway and her classmates at Carlos'n Charlie's, a popular watering hole in the capital, Oranjestad.

"They said they left the bar around 1:30 a.m. with van der Sloot and an intoxicated Holloway in the back seat, then stopped briefly at another restaurant about a block away before heading out of town", Kock said.

http://www.al.com/news/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/news/1118481459238090.xml&coll=2

[Observer]

Picture on right flipped to have the two women looking in the same direction.

So who do we think she is?

I think she is a close relative if she is traveling with them to  Holland and the U.S..My guess would be Paul's or Anita's neice. Maybee she came to NY to look after little Sebastian?

[wreck]

Picture on right flipped to have the two women looking in the same direction.

So who do we think she is?

I think she is a close relative if she is traveling with them to  Holland and the U.S..My guess would be Paul's or Anita's neice. Maybee she came to NY to look after little Sebastian?

The pic on the right has a little family resemblence to Anita (IMO)

[Observer]

I find it strange that I cannot find David Kock's Interview anywhere(Video or transcript) where he says they stopped at another bar after C&C and Deepak ran in and came out a few minutes later. It was never mentioned again by anyone even after all the disecting of the time-lines and Joran's face to face interview with Greta..I think David Kock slipped when he told us about this little stop and they were either stalling for the date rape drug to take affect or they were letting someone know at that bar that they had Natalee. If the stop was irrelevent then why not talk about it after disecting everything after C&C?

Also not talked about are the 2 phone calls reported to be from Natalee. Yes one of them Charles Croes had listed to with Beth over and over..Strange that was never brought up again 

Birmingham News
June 9, 2005

Satish Kalpoe's attorney, David Kock, said his client told him that van der Sloot asked the Kalpoe brothers to pick him up Sunday night so he could meet up with Holloway and her classmates at Carlos'n Charlie's, a popular watering hole in the capital, Oranjestad.

"They said they left the bar around 1:30 a.m. with van der Sloot and an intoxicated Holloway in the back seat, then stopped briefly at another restaurant about a block away before heading out of town", Kock said.

http://www.al.com/news/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/news/1118481459238090.xml&coll=2

Tamikosmom:

You have been lookin hard for that..Havent ya?? Nice find..In the interview on TV he gave a reason why Deepak ran in and Im pretty sure it was to talk to a friend...So what Bar/Restraunt was that? Is it possible it was Choose-A-Name? Mambos?

[2NJSons_Mom]

I may be facing combat but that young woman could also be the person we were thinking Astrid...jmho....(same coloring/hair, etc.) 

[klaasend]

I may be facing combat but that young woman could also be the person we were thinking Astrid...jmho....(same coloring/hair, etc.) 

Hmmmmm, good point

I have that photo saved somewhere but can't put my hands on it right now.  Will try to do a comparison by tomorrow. 

[Tamikosmom]

I find it strange that I cannot find David Kock's Interview anywhere(Video or transcript) where he says they stopped at another bar after C&C and Deepak ran in and came out a few minutes later. It was never mentioned again by anyone even after all the disecting of the time-lines and Joran's face to face interview with Greta..I think David Kock slipped when he told us about this little stop and they were either stalling for the date rape drug to take affect or they were letting someone know at that bar that they had Natalee. If the stop was irrelevent then why not talk about it after disecting everything after C&C?

Also not talked about are the 2 phone calls reported to be from Natalee. Yes one of them Charles Croes had listed to with Beth over and over..Strange that was never brought up again 

Birmingham News
June 9, 2005

Satish Kalpoe's attorney, David Kock, said his client told him that van der Sloot asked the Kalpoe brothers to pick him up Sunday night so he could meet up with Holloway and her classmates at Carlos'n Charlie's, a popular watering hole in the capital, Oranjestad.

"They said they left the bar around 1:30 a.m. with van der Sloot and an intoxicated Holloway in the back seat, then stopped briefly at another restaurant about a block away before heading out of town", Kock said.

http://www.al.com/news/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/news/1118481459238090.xml&coll=2

Tamikosmom:

You have been lookin hard for that..Havent ya?? Nice find..In the interview on TV he gave a reason why Deepak ran in and Im pretty sure it was to talk to a friend...So what Bar/Restraunt was that? Is it possible it was Choose-A-Name? Mambos?

 

******* ... the article was dated June 9, 2005.  The day that Joran, Deepak and Satish was detained.  Deepak and Satish did not mention this "quick stop" in their May 31, 2005 official witness statements ... they did not mention it in subsequent revealed suspect statements.  ******* ... I do believe your speculation is right on ... David Kock let something slip.

Janet

[2NJSons_Mom]

I may be facing combat but that young woman could also be the person we were thinking Astrid...jmho....(same coloring/hair, etc.) 

Hmmmmm, good point

I have that photo saved somewhere but can't put my hands on it right now.  Will try to do a comparison by tomorrow. 

Thank you...I don't have it. natch...

[Tamikosmom]

Good Night Monkeys



Janet

9:00 PM

[2NJSons_Mom]

G'nite all...time to retire for the night...

[klaasend]

Nite Janet and 2NJ