JonBenet Ramsey

[terryd270]

I have my thoughts of whats wrong with our own justice system.  We have judges that released these perverts to kill or sexually assault kids over and over again.. I think our justice system should be about the victims and not about the criminals anymore.. So the judges that sit on cases should have first hand knowledge about the type of case they are sitting on.. The jury should be madeup of a jury of the victims peers and not the criminal..  Thats how a  scum attorney like Joe T. can get his clients off so easy..  How can someone give justice on the jury when the jury is a jury of the criminal peers and it seems that some of our judges are the same..

[terryd270]

I don't want to punish the criminals family but they shouldn't profit from the crime that one of their family members commited.. I was never one to sit for long waiting to see what would happen, I usually jump into whatever and made it happen.. "I lots rather be wrong then doubtful".. You can live with your mistakes but not knowing is the worsed...

[mrs. red]

Well, I can see both sides... I agree with SunFreak... and what if the story helps find the real killer?  

This woman on Nancy Grace, she sounded just like OUR Anna!!

Remember it was Larry Garrison that told us about Julia's book... and like SunFreak said  just because you have the rights doesn't necessarily mean you will ever even write the book....

The thing is this... books, etc. are a business - if we have an issue with Larry, then do we have an issue with every pundit?  I dunno... I'm not that upset with it at this point... I don't think I have enough information.....

[Jacqueline]

I don't see how writing a book is going to help find the killer.

This guy is a delusional nutcase.

There is plenty of coverage on this case, there is no need for it to get out to the people by writing a book on this guy.

And even the idea that this sick pervert's family might even profit from the death of this child is sickening to me.

I thought that is what the SON OF SAM law was all about.

I have to side with Terry on this one....

Too many rights and privelages given to the criminals, and not the victims.

[terryd270]

I guess this case and so many other things in life are like design meetings that I have been to.. Just too much discussing and nothing is ever done.. Will we be discussing this case 10 years from now?  The sad fact is the longer it takes the less chance you have of ever finding the person or persons that committed the crime.. I know there are rare cases but these cases are like "Recently a two-headed calf was born at a farm in Russia’s Vologda region. Unfortunately, farmers failed to save its life."  They are rare and I go with the odds that the longer it takes the more difficult the case is to convict or solved..  Witnesses die and peoples memory is not as sure of things then they are 10 years before..  This is my opinon and I know its not what people like to hear.. I been a consultant too long to tell you what you want to hear..

[Jacqueline]

I guess this case and so many other things in life are like design meetings that I have been to.. Just too much discussing and nothing is ever done.. Will we be discussing this case 10 years from now?  The sad fact is the longer it takes the less chance you have of ever finding the person or persons that committed the crime.. I know there are rare cases but these cases are like "Recently a two-headed calf was born at a farm in Russia’s Vologda region. Unfortunately, farmers failed to save its life."  They are rare and I go with the odds that the longer it takes the more difficult the case is to convict or solved..  Witnesses die and peoples memory is not as sure of things then they are 10 years before..  This is my opinon and I know its not what people like to hear.. I been a consultant too long to tell you what you want to hear..

It is rare Terry...you are so right.

Recently in my home state a man was caught and arrested for a murder he committed as a child (13) 30 years ago!

I posted an article earlier on this , on this thread.

And believe me it is a big deal indeed that after all this time and arrest was made.  This case had no publicity compared to the magnitude of JoNbenet and Natalee....but somehow they did make an arrest.

Now the dilemma is do they try him as an adult, or a child.

First hearing he was in Family Court, cause he was just a child when this happened.

Very strange indeed.

[Jacqueline]

And what kind of nutcase family offers up their relatives life story just to make money?

Most people would be embarrassed as hell if their relative was involved in something like this, and these people are trying to make money out of it.

Sick. Sick. Sick.

[terryd270]

I guess another hazzard of litigation is that the crime that he committed 10 years ago is that the people that he hurt are no longer here, or the people that knew the case are gone and only notes are left.. Its really hard to reverse engineer something someone else did a long time ago..A decade our values changed, I mean when I was a kid you wouldn't see what we see on normal tv or hear on the radio the songs they sing.. So every 10 years our values do change and I'm not sure if that is good or bad.. I guess its something to do with survival..  Anyway if they don't have any DNA on this creep, then shut him up and throw away the key..  He has nothing of value to say..

[Jacqueline]

He has had his 15 minutes of fame.

15 minutes too long.

[Jacqueline]

Karr will be in Colorado next week.

His lawyers are upset with the wall of silence they are getting from the Boulder DA.

[mrs. red]

Sistah... I  just posted to you on the other thread...

I don't know if it's necessarily a bad thing that LG has the rights to this story... just because he has the rights doesn't mean that there will ever be a story -I just reserve judgment...until I have more information...

[terryd270]

I really hope they have some DNA to closed this case but I think not.. I would loved to be wrong on this one but I think not..  I don't think he is sick, I think he knows exactly what he is doing in his own twisted way..  I think he likes the attention..  He put himself around children and I just hope he never touched any of them but I believe he has..

[mrs. red]

I guess another hazzard of litigation is that the crime that he committed 10 years ago is that the people that he hurt are no longer here, or the people that knew the case are gone and only notes are left.. Its really hard to reverse engineer something someone else did a long time ago..A decade our values changed, I mean when I was a kid you wouldn't see what we see on normal tv or hear on the radio the songs they sing.. So every 10 years our values do change and I'm not sure if that is good or bad.. I guess its something to do with survival..  Anyway if they don't have any DNA on this creep, then shut him up and throw away the key..  He has nothing of value to say..

I was having a conversation about that earlier tonight... our values have totally changed...


and I am watching the taped conversation on Hannity on Colmes...

that was the most bizarre "conversation" or "confession" I heard...

I thought she was dead so I bashed her in the head?  WTF... why if she is dead would you bash her???  Makes no sense...

BTW, I do agree that this pervert should just be locked up...

and now Dr Baden is saying that the confession isn't true...

[Jacqueline]

Earlier in the conversation, it was stated that someone leaked the imminent arrest to the media....

Boulder DA would have preferred to have a quiet arrest then continue to investigate.

I'm leaning towards Dr. Badens opinion.

False confession.

LOVE YOU MY SISTAH>>>>>>>>

[mrs. red]

Earlier in the conversation, it was stated that someone leaked the imminent arrest to the media....

Boulder DA would have preferred to have a quiet arrest then continue to investigate.

I'm leaning towards Dr. Badens opinion.

False confession.

LOVE YOU MY SISTAH>>>>>>>>

Honey Hush... you know I love my sistah!!!
 I agree false confession ... but I guess what I want to know is why would you do that... make a false confession... and the tape didn't make sense to me... seems like this Karr guy has needed to say something to get caught even before now... so he's not an innocent school teacher...

[Carnut]

I guess another hazzard of litigation is that the crime that he committed 10 years ago is that the people that he hurt are no longer here, or the people that knew the case are gone and only notes are left.. Its really hard to reverse engineer something someone else did a long time ago..A decade our values changed, I mean when I was a kid you wouldn't see what we see on normal tv or hear on the radio the songs they sing.. So every 10 years our values do change and I'm not sure if that is good or bad.. I guess its something to do with survival..  Anyway if they don't have any DNA on this creep, then shut him up and throw away the key..  He has nothing of value to say..

Actually, if they can't get Karr on the JBR case, he'll most likely go free.

All California wanted him on was misdemeaner child porn charges that he skipped on.

[Carnut]

Earlier in the conversation, it was stated that someone leaked the imminent arrest to the media....

Boulder DA would have preferred to have a quiet arrest then continue to investigate.

I'm leaning towards Dr. Badens opinion.

False confession.

LOVE YOU MY SISTAH>>>>>>>>

Honey Hush... you know I love my sistah!!!
 I agree false confession ... but I guess what I want to know is why would you do that... make a false confession... and the tape didn't make sense to me... seems like this Karr guy has needed to say something to get caught even before now... so he's not an innocent school teacher...

That Sonoma tape wasn't really a confession it was a 'What if' theory thing about what the real 'killer' might have been thinking or would be doing.

[mrs. red]

Carnut... I was just seeing that.. I didn't hear the what if or how would you part before....

still that was a pretty twisted way of thinking....

[Carnut]

Carnut... I was just seeing that.. I didn't hear the what if or how would you part before....

still that was a pretty twisted way of thinking....

I think the Colo DA has stumbled big time.

The guy is such a wannabe.

[Carnut]

I'm pretty sure Karr is just fantasing his story from all the info he could get about the case.

Course I don't want to bet a very large amout on money that he walks, but....