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« Reply #520 on: July 09, 2008, 03:52:23 PM »

Prosecutor: DNA clears JonBenet Ramsey's family


Jul 9, 3:45 PM EDT

 BOULDER, Colo. (AP) -- Prosecutors say new DNA tests have cleared JonBenet Ramsey's family in the 1996 killing of the 6-year-old beauty queen.

Boulder County District Attorney Mary Lacy said Wednesday the tests point to an "unexplained third party."

She says prosecutors don't consider any member of the Ramsey family to be a suspect.

JonBenet's parents, John and Patsy Ramsey, were long said to be under an "umbrella of suspicion" in the girl's slaying.

Lacy apologized to the family on Wednesday, saying, "To the extent that this office has added to the distress suffered by the Ramsey family at any time or to any degree, I offer my deepest apology."

John Ramsey, a software entrepreneur, has said in interviews he believes the case will be solved.

Patsy Ramsey died June 24, 2006 of ovarian cancer at the age of 49 in Atlanta, where the family moved after JonBenet's death.

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« Reply #521 on: July 09, 2008, 05:04:22 PM »

Muffy you beat me to it. I am so glad they have finally been cleared. Glad there have been test that could prove it. I have long believed John  and Patsy were innocent.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-ap-jonbenet-ramsey,0,3064611.story


Prosecutor: DNA clears JonBenet Ramsey's family

By CATHERINE TSAI | Associated Press Writer
    3:31 PM CDT, July 9, 2008

BOULDER, Colo. - Citing new DNA tests, prosecutors on Wednesday cleared JonBenet Ramsey's parents and brother in the 1996 killing of the 6-year-old beauty queen and apologized to the family for casting the cloud of suspicion that hung over them for more than a decade.

Boulder County District Attorney Mary Lacy said the tests point to an "unexplained third party." She released a copy of a letter she sent to John Ramsey that said: "To the extent that we may have contributed in any way to the public perception that you might have been involved in this crime, I am deeply sorry."

Lacy said prosecutors don't consider any member of the Ramsey family to be a suspect.

For years after the slaying, checkout-aisle tabloids and crime shows went after the couple. News reports also cast suspicion on JonBenet's older brother, Burke. Lacy's predecessor as district attorney, Alex Hunter, said in 1997 that the parents were under an "umbrella of suspicion."

Lacy has previously expressed doubts that the parents were involved. In 2003, a federal judge handling a defamation lawsuit in Atlanta involving the Ramseys said evidence in the case was more consistent with the theory that an intruder killed JonBenet, not her parents, and Lacy said she agreed.

John Ramsey found his daughter's strangled and bludgeoned body in the basement of the family's home in Boulder on Dec. 26, 1996. Patsy Ramsey said she found a ransom note demanding $118,000 for her daughter.

John Ramsey, a software entrepreneur, has said in interviews he believes the case will be solved.

Patsy Ramsey died June 24, 2006, of ovarian cancer at the age of 49 in Atlanta, where the family moved after JonBenet's death.

"My first thought was obviously I wish Patsy Ramsey was here with us to be able to at least share vindication of her family," said L. Lin Wood, an attorney for the Ramsey family.

"There are many people in this country, if not around the world, that also owe John and Patsy Ramsey and Burke Ramsey (their son) an apology," he said.

Less than two months after Patsy Ramsey died, the case appeared to blow wide open with the arrest in Thailand of John Mark Karr, a sometime teacher obsessed with the little girl's slaying. Karr made bizarre, detailed confessions to the killing, but authorities said DNA evidence showed Karr did not commit the crime.

(This version corrects that previous DA, sted police, said parents were under umbrella of suspicion.)
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« Reply #522 on: July 09, 2008, 08:09:17 PM »

Nancy Grace covering this now CNN Headline News .....transcript available later. Wendy Murphy is on now.

I want to know if they tested Blake's DNA.
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« Reply #523 on: July 09, 2008, 10:34:16 PM »

Nancy Grace covering this now CNN Headline News .....transcript available later. Wendy Murphy is on now.

I want to know if they tested Blake's DNA.

NUT ~ hope you're still watching Nancy    Are you talking about Burke Ramsey, older brother?
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« Reply #524 on: July 09, 2008, 10:38:04 PM »

Whoa ~ check out this site ~ don't know how long it's been around ~ Titled: Did Burke Kill JonBenet?

Actually, had to go to Google and then the cached link ....weird

www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/7615/burke.html
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« Reply #525 on: July 10, 2008, 01:33:36 PM »

Yes.........silly me, I meant Burke.


NANCY GRACE TRANSCRIPT

New DNA Test Exonerates Ramsey Family in JonBenet`s Death

Aired July 9, 2008 - 20:00:00   ET

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0807/09/ng.01.html

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« Reply #526 on: July 10, 2008, 01:35:10 PM »

Whoa ~ check out this site ~ don't know how long it's been around ~ Titled: Did Burke Kill JonBenet?

Actually, had to go to Google and then the cached link ....weird

www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/7615/burke.html


ummmmmmmmm......how do I do that??
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« Reply #527 on: July 10, 2008, 01:38:56 PM »

Whoa ~ check out this site ~ don't know how long it's been around ~ Titled: Did Burke Kill JonBenet?

Actually, had to go to Google and then the cached link ....weird

www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/7615/burke.html


ummmmmmmmm......how do I do that??

Hi, Nut!  See you're on here perusing . . . hang on and I'll see if I can get that link . . . it is *really* interesting!  Be right back.
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« Reply #528 on: July 10, 2008, 01:44:25 PM »

Nut ~ I don't know what I'm doing wrong. 

Anyway, go to google and put in: "burkey ramsey" jonbenet    ~ Then, it should be the first item that shows up:  Burke killed JonBenet Ramsey   ~  Then, when you click it says it's not available, BUT, if you hit the *cached* link, it will take you to the page(s). 

I tried to save it last night, but my computer says it was too much info (17 pages).  You can tell I'm not a computer-person. . .

Let me know what you think  of this guy's article.
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« Reply #529 on: July 10, 2008, 01:46:35 PM »

NUT ~ Now when I click on that link from yesterday, it goes right to the article.  Who knows? 

Sorry I'm taking up so much space with my ramblings.
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« Reply #530 on: July 10, 2008, 02:16:51 PM »

Got it.....thanks.
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« Reply #531 on: July 23, 2008, 05:50:35 AM »

I want to know if they tested Blake's DNA.
Long, long ago.
ALL males of the Ramsey family have been excluded from having contributed to the dna-profile found under the fingernails or in PantyBloodSpotOne or PantyBloodsptTwo.

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« Reply #532 on: September 18, 2008, 06:51:54 PM »

Suspect in the JonBenet Ramsey murder arrested in Thailand

Breaking News from CNN: A suspect in the JonBenet Ramsey murder has been arrested in Thailand, Denver TV station KUSA reports. CNN working to confirm.



According to reports, the unidentified suspect has confessed to certain elements of the crime. However, the parts that have been confessed to would have been unknown to the general public. The Boulder County DA stated that the suspect will be brought back to the United States in the next couple of days.

Much more ...

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2006/08/16/suspect-in-the-jonbenet-murder-arrested-in-thailand/

John Mark Karr Leaves Atlanta, U.S.
Father Said Karr Felt Unwelcome

POSTED: 11:29 am EDT September 17, 2008

ATLANTA -- John Mark Karr's father says his son, feeling unwelcome in the Grant Park neighborhood near downtown Atlanta, has left the country, but did not say where he had gone.

Karr had implicated himself in the murder of 6-year-old JonBenet Ramsey, who was found dead in her Boulder, Colo., home on Dec. 26, 1996.

The 43-year-old Karr, who grew up in Hamilton in Marion County, Ala., was cleared of the Ramsey murder when his DNA did not match that found on JonBenet's body. He was cleared of the porn charges due to lack of evidence.

Wexford Karr said his son had moved to the Grant Park "where he was helping me with some of my properties."

The father said his son has "been treated like a criminal."
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« Reply #533 on: September 25, 2008, 09:51:23 AM »

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I hope this is not true....


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Oh brother.

This was one sloppy investigation.


Sad but true Jacq, and I agree with you...they were not equipped to handle an investigation of this magnitude even if the crime scene had not been compromised.
One Sloppy Investigation is RIGHT! They couldn't find anything or anyone, so all they could do was pin it on the parents... Yes they found a ransom note but that don't make the parents guilty.I mean they had two kids, why her? Just because she did beauty contest? That don't prove nothing. Her mom put her in them. We are all so quick to judge but god forbid IF this ever happened to one of us (which I pray it never does, I'm only using an example) And police find NOTHING and BOOM we are the suspect and WE KNOW, WE DID NOTHING WRONG. It would sucks to be accused, to have people pointing fingers at us, OR to know, WE MIGHT be going to jail...For something we did NOT do..Patsy has now passed on due to cancer and I believe she passed on from a broken heart. This case I don't think will ever be solved and I have a feeling that's the way Caylee Anthony's case is headed as well. But the monsters that put them babies where they are... I hope they rot in hell and get what's coming to them...
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« Reply #534 on: December 24, 2008, 10:45:19 AM »

updated 10:55 a.m. EST, Tue December 23, 2008
   JonBenet Ramsey: 12 years later and still a mystery

NEW YORK (CNN) -- It is one of the most notorious cold cases in recent memory. A 6-year-old girl, a child of beauty and privilege, was found dead in the basement of her home in Boulder, Colorado, on the day after Christmas 1996.

The strangulation of JonBenet Ramsey is also among the coldest of cases. Twelve years have passed, and again it is Christmastime, the season of JonBenet's death.

The investigation has taken many heartbreaking twists and turns, including a false confession and baseless suspicions cast for a time on the child's parents. After years of false starts, there are no solid leads.

For many, the images of this tragic story are indelible: A doll-like child smiling flirtatiously at the camera in flamboyant costumes, heavy makeup and grown-up hairstyles parading on a beauty pageant stage. A tiny, lifeless body, dressed in long johns, found on the basement floor by her father.  Watch how this case touched nearly everyone »

Just this past July, John and Patsy Ramsey were exonerated by police of having any role in their daughter's death. Patsy Ramsey died of cancer in June 2006.

FBI lab results confirmed that a man, yet to be identified, touched JonBenet's long underwear. This so-called touch DNA also was found in JonBenet's underpants, mixed with the child's blood.

Police believe the DNA belongs to the killer. They just don't know who he is. They are waiting for a match.

From the beginning, police focused their attention on Patsy Ramsey, placing the entire family under what authorities later would admit was a cloud of suspicion.

The investigators' working theory was that JonBenet's mother may have struck her in anger as punishment for bed-wetting, causing the little girl's death on Christmas night. Investigators theorized that a strangulation was then staged to direct suspicion toward an intruder or sexual predator.

Patsy Ramsey told police she awoke early December 26 and found a two-page, handwritten ransom note on a back staircase. It said JonBenet had been kidnapped by a "small foreign faction" and that she'd be executed if the Ramseys did not pay a $118,000 ransom.

The Ramseys checked JonBenet's room, discovered she was missing and immediately called 911.

When police arrived, they suggested that John Ramsey and a family friend, Fleet White, search the house. Shortly afterward, Ramsey and White found JonBenet's body in a wine cellar in the basement. The child's body was wrapped in a blanket, with duct tape across her mouth and white cord wrapped around her neck and wrists.

An autopsy showed the child had eaten pineapple shortly before she died. She'd been sexually assaulted, strangled by the cord and struck on the head.

Crime scene photos show two small burn-type injuries on JonBenet's head. Private investigators Ollie Gray and John San Augustin, working as consultants on the case, said the burns are consistent with marks made with a "stun gun."

Investigators also concluded that the paper the ransom note was written on came from a notepad in the Ramsey home, as did the broken paintbrush handle used to form the garrote.

However, the sources for the cord and duct tape were not found anywhere in the home.

Other nagging clues include an open basement window near where the child's body was found. A suitcase stood directly below the window, and appeared to have been used as a step. There was a scuff mark on the wall beneath the window. A footprint of a Hi-Tec hiking boot was found in the dust in the wine cellar and cannot be connected to anyone in the Ramsey family or their friends.

Police say they were initially suspicious of the Ramseys because there were no footprints in the snow outside the house.

Lou Smits, a lead police investigator on the case, resigned because, he said, the investigation "was misdirected and had developed tunnel vision, only focusing on the Ramseys as suspects and not following alternative leads."

The contradictory facts have caused problems in the case. Many experts have said they believe Boulder police botched the investigation by failing to preserve the crime scene properly.

When, for example, police arrived and directed John Ramsey to search his own home, Ramsey not only found his dead daughter but also picked her up and brought her upstairs, disturbing the crime scene. Police investigators, friends and family were allowed to walk in and out of the house freely, again contaminating evidence that could have been gathered.

The District Attorney's Office has taken over the investigation, said spokeswoman Caroline French.

"This case is still an open and active investigation," French said.

Prosecutors seek tips and ask anyone with information that could lead to the arrest and conviction of the person or persons responsible for JonBenet Ramsey's death to call 303-441-1636.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/12/23/grace.coldcase.jonbenet.ramsey/index.html?iref=24hours
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« Reply #535 on: December 27, 2008, 08:29:49 AM »

New Prosecutor Takes Look At JonBenet Ramsey Case

UPDATED: 9:42 am MST December 26, 2008

BOULDER, Colo. -- A new Boulder County district attorney plans to take a new look at one of the country's most high-profile cold cases -- the slaying of 6-year-old JonBenet Ramsey.

Incoming DA Stan Garnett said he'll decide what to do with the investigation in his first 30 days on the job, which he starts Jan. 13. His predecessor, Mary Lacy, publicly exonerated the Ramsey family this year in the Dec. 26, 1996, murder.

"I want to look very closely at the resources of the DA's Office and make a careful decision about what resources to continue to expend on the case," Garnett said.

He said he is thinking of sending the case back to the police. The DA's office took over the investigation in 2002 because of concerns about the police department's handling of it.

Garnett said the police department likely has more resources now and is better equipped to handle the investigation.

JonBenet was a 6-year-old beauty queen when she was found bludgeoned and strangled in the basement of her parents' Boulder home just after Christmas in 1996. The case has taken many twists and turns, starting with former DA Alex Hunter declaring soon after the murder that JonBenet's parents, John and Patsy Ramsey, were under "an umbrella of suspicion."

A grand jury was convened in 1998 to consider the case but adjourned a year later without issuing any indictments. Hunter decided not to run again and left office in 2001.

Lacy was elected to replace Hunter, and in 2002 her office took over the investigation from the police, promising to take a fresh look. She agreed with a federal judge in a defamation lawsuit involving the Ramseys that the evidence was more consistent with the theory that an intruder killed JonBenet.

Three years later, months after Patsy Ramsey died from cancer, the case made international news when John Mark Karr, an American teacher in Thailand, made a bizarre confession to the slaying.

He was whisked from Thailand to Colorado but was released after prosecutors concluded he couldn't have killed her.

Last July, Lacy cleared the Ramseys in the slaying and said new DNA tests pointed to an unknown outsider. Investigators hope to one day match crime scene DNA to a suspect in a growing national DNA registry.

Lacy couldn't run again because of term limits.

Denver defense attorney Larry Pozner said he believes turning the investigation back to the Boulder police is a bad idea.

"The Boulder police were neither fair, nor accurate, in their initial investigation, and there's no reason to think they should be trusted again," said Pozner, past president of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers.

Scott Robinson, a Denver defense attorney who has followed the case, said the Boulder Police Department is far different from more than a decade ago.

Robinson, though, said he's not sure there's much anyone can do in the absence of new DNA evidence or a verifiable confession from the killer.

"The case is as cold as cold can be," he said.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/18360626/detail.html?rss=den&psp=news
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« Reply #536 on: December 30, 2008, 08:54:24 PM »

I'm so glad this may go back to the police.  I don't agree that the "new" DNA absolves the Ramseys.  That DNA could have been on Patsy or John's clothing and transferred by them to Jonbenet.  Especially the DNA taken from her long johns. IMO.  An entirely new team should be assigned and allowed to work without interference from ANYONE's attorneys. IMO
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« Reply #537 on: December 30, 2008, 11:44:58 PM »

I'm so glad this may go back to the police.  I don't agree that the "new" DNA absolves the Ramseys.  That DNA could have been on Patsy or John's clothing and transferred by them to Jonbenet.  Especially the DNA taken from her long johns. IMO.  An entirely new team should be assigned and allowed to work without interference from ANYONE's attorneys. IMO
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« Reply #538 on: February 02, 2009, 04:20:25 PM »

Hi to all still following the JBR case.  The Boulder DA will be handing the case back to the police, they've just announced today.  Here's a link to an article with more information:

http://**/news/2009/feb/02/boulder-police-take-back-jonbenet-ramsey-case/

They're planning a press conference at 3:30 today, MST.  I'll post a link to a live stream as soon as one of the news stations puts it up.
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« Reply #539 on: February 02, 2009, 05:29:43 PM »

Ok then; here we go.  Just click on the link and then click on LIVE WEBCAST in the Live Stream box near the top of the page.

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