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Question: Which one of Joran's friends "infiltrated"?  (Voting closed: November 26, 2007, 11:41:37 PM)
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« on: November 24, 2007, 12:17:06 AM »

 
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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2007, 01:55:36 AM »

Since I'll probably be asleep when #691 reaches page 50 I'm unlocking this thread early  Wink
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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2007, 03:28:21 AM »

Today's my birthday!!!!! 24 on the 24th Razz
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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2007, 03:40:09 AM »

Today's my birthday!!!!! 24 on the 24th Razz

Enjoy your 20's they go fast!!  Razz Happy Birthday!!
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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2007, 03:55:49 AM »

Happy Birthday!

Klaas found this exploring the net... http://www.freelang.net/dictionary/papiamento.html
free Papiamento(u) dictionary to download as of March 2007.. windows based. Let me know if it works.
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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2007, 04:30:20 AM »

I found a new Toy for Klaas  Laughing

Last song and dance for Joran,Deepak and Satish

Here at SM we have never bought the PIMPS song and dance routine and it appears the Dutch Investigators and new Aruban Prosecutors and Court aren't either.This Holiday season it's time Natalee finally gets her justice. There will be no Sinterklaas and Eggnog for those that hurt Natalee and lied about it. Only a prison sentence.


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« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2007, 04:48:33 AM »

Joran van der Sloot arrives on Aruba, last night Dutch time 4AM. NY time 10PM.



Joran van der Sloot aangekomen op Aruba
 
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ORANJESTAD -  Joran van der Sloot, verdachte van betrokkenheid bij de verdwijning en dood van de Amerikaanse tiener Natalee Holloway, is zaterdagochtend rond vier uur Nederlandse tijd aangekomen op Aruba. Dat melden ooggetuigen op het vliegveld. De jongen is direct naar de gevangenis vervoerd.

Vlak na vier uur verlieten drie geblindeerde personenauto's met hoge snelheid de poorten van het vliegveld. Volgens beveiligingsmensen ter plaatse zat Van der Sloot in één van de wagens. Journalisten op de Antillen melden dat de Nederlander twee uur vertraging had opgelopen doordat hij op Curacao van vliegtuig is gewisseld.

Het Openbaar Ministerie (OM) op Aruba was niet bereikbaar voor commentaar. Naar verwachting wordt Van der Sloot maandag aan de rechter-commissaris op Aruba voorgeleid, die hem verder zal verhoren. Mogelijk komt dan ook de verlenging van de voorlopige hechtenis aan de orde.
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« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2007, 06:32:18 AM »

Paulus   Arrow  It's coming.

For all the different theories ALE has put forth regarding what the *something bad* was that happened - they have been consistent in the belief that J2K were present, and then recieved assistance. A second group.

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« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2007, 07:38:35 AM »

I found a new Toy for Klaas  Laughing

Last song and dance for Joran,Deepak and Satish

Here at SM we have never bought the PIMPS song and dance routine and it appears the Dutch Investigators and new Aruban Prosecutors and Court aren't either.This Holiday season it's time Natalee finally gets her justice. There will be no Sinterklaas and Eggnog for those that hurt Natalee and lied about it. Only a prison sentence.


No one is buying it!!

http://www.elfyourself.com/?id=9589437335

Thank you for that little day brightener!  Do not click on the above link with your mouth full unless you just NEED that new monitor.

I'm seeing a lot of coal in some wooden shoes this year.  Good morning.
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« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2007, 07:38:40 AM »

Anna Thanks for the update from Pearl at BFN that it is Judge Smid. I too would feel a lot better if it was one of the new judges. Is it intentional that it is just being reported as 'a judge'? If Greta's on her way maybe we should email her and she can verify.

******* Sander's phone could haave gone overboard off of the family boat. Igsigs...the second group.

Infiltration...sounds like a totally new person befriended someone. Could be a language thing . Personally I'm leaning to someone like Fabienne because of Joran's ego.

Red Thanks for the info on the upcoming search and in advance for the inside info.
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« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2007, 07:51:03 AM »

2:34 am May 30, 2005

From CNN 11/23/07 10:43 pm EST: "...The investigators used advanced techniques to re-examine existing information, including cell phone records and text messages exchanged the night Holloway disappeared. They found some discrepancies, Mos said.  As part of their work, investigators returned to the homes of the suspects to try to re-create transmissions.  The team also discovered that some existing evidence was improperly analyzed, he added.

At 2:34 am on May 30, 2005:

1. jvds disconnects from 8 minute cell phone call w/ deepak, at 2:34am

2. deepak disconnects from same 8 minute call w/ jvds, at 2:34 am

3. Valentijn vds logs on to sloot home computer and signs into hotmail account, at 2:34 am.  He remains logged in for 33 minutes, until 3:07 am.

Interesting set of coincidental digital activities, IMO.

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« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2007, 07:56:42 AM »

JQK said the other nite the new evidence was something you could "touch."  I guess you could touch wiretap results but I was hoping for physical evidence.  The missing drivers license has been on my mind the last few days along with the shed next to JVDS' apartment. 

It's a long time till Monday.
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« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2007, 07:59:39 AM »

Diario
http://www.diarioaruba.com/
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« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2007, 08:03:20 AM »

Hans Mos on FOX

- thinks Natalee is dead, and they can prove it.

- cannot comment on cause of death (context here connects knowledge of cause and new evidence).

- believes new evidence is of the type that the suspects must respond to.

- decision on criminal charges not made yet - nor the decision on all 3 facing same charges.
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« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2007, 08:11:55 AM »

  Best wishes  Spooky have a wonderful day  <g>
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« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2007, 08:12:26 AM »

Hammer - the beach story is history.

Maybe the questioning of Val forced Joran to call the Kalpoes and work up a new story.
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« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2007, 08:28:20 AM »

Observor, a friend sent that elf yourself to me last year and I made my son look pretty silly, I still remember sending it to Klaas and San  Laughing but I think it's too good for Joe T and K2  Laughing Elves are generally good peeps  Laughing

I think Joe T's been trying to get a primetime show on the cable networks for years now and Joran's been a means to an end for him in that regard.  Rolling Eyes So let's keep writing in to complain about him so his dream can't come true.

I would think that the only evidence that the dutch were privvy to in the beginning was what was forwarded to they or the NFI, in Janssen's trips across the pond. Just as we've always seen there was no logic nor best practices in what the ALE did, it had to be apparent to the KPLD if they intended to make this go away then they needed to re-examine for gaps in the ALE and Janssen. It may have been political too, between Jacobs and Stratten there certainly was enough opportunity and from those involved on Natalee's behalf, obviously it appears they were deliberately incompetent at times?

I would truly hope that after a year of effort that the KPLD would have turned over every rock, every hard drive, every cell phone, every possible informant. I think it will be political and tourism suicide if Mos makes these bold statements and then the whole case goes "POOF" again.

One would think the dutch realize this, hopefully Mos does and that the hearts and psyches of those who so loved Natalee can endure this one last roller coaster ride.

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« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2007, 08:41:40 AM »

remember when they were measuring (the DUTCH TEAM) at the SLOOOOOOOT house ?


measure twice -  lock the cell door once


they got em

its over

adios

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« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2007, 08:46:43 AM »

New Fox News Video

http://zoltanzion.blogspot.com/

HANS MOS - ARUBAN PROSECUTOR - NEW EVIDENCE - NATALEE NOT ALIVE

***ALL VIDEOS COURTESY OF CARPE NOCTEM***
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« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2007, 08:47:19 AM »

hope freddy uses some of the reward money to move off the sick island  Cool
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