Natalee Case Discusstion #692 11/24 - 11/25/2007

[crazymom]

Crazymom? I'm not sure there's anything really new.................anybody?

Thanks CBB.  I am reading the media thread right now.

[Dihannah1]

GOODNIGHT ALL - SEE YOU TOMORROW!

Nite Klaas,  it's 2:11am here on the east coast and I SHOULD be in bed.

Sweet dreams!

[crazymom]

Robots......are you being bad again?

[crazymom]

Nite to all those that are leaving.

[Observer]

Haha..I listened to another Pitbull interview on ABC(Top Video). First she couldnt think of PVDS name so she called him the judge. Then in the middle of her spin she said the police car tapes were doctored and is part of the rumor and speculation..

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3902216&page=1

[Dihannah1]

Crazymom? I'm not sure there's anything really new.................anybody?

Thanks CBB.  I am reading the media thread right now.

Nothing new, that I am aware of.  Probably not until Monday, unless something breaks tomorrow, but doubt it.   In fact, I hope they continue to keep things quiet for the right reasons.  To get the job done RIGHT for a change.  I guess, we'll see tomorrow. Go ahead and rest until then   Monday will be the big day, when Joran goes in front of the judge, but still don't see much new coming out...

[Anna]

Igs,

MF has gone silent?  For real?

MF has not posted today at RU after she said she was leaving.  Time will tell if it's for good. 

I suspect there are still some people posting at FOB2

I would be embarrassed to be posting how the truth lies in MB and all that other crap some of those people are constantly going on about with the lead Prosecutor in Aruba saying he has Joran on tape telling how Natalee died. 

But then I think it is morally wrong to stalk anybody who has no connection to this disappearance just for the hell of it.  But that's just me.  Others feel differently, obviously.

MO

[crazybabyborg]

I'm in the East with you Dihannah, and it's 2:20am. I'm going to brush teeth, and all that get ready for bed stuff. If I'm not sleepy when I get done, I'll be back.

If not, Have a great nite Monkeys! It's SO good to see everyone! 

[Anna]

OK, now I changed my vote to None of the Above as I think it is someone in The Netherlands who has infiltrated.  Joran wouldn't be saying all this long distance I don't think but could be wrong about that.  I think he was chatting with someone local in Holland when he said all that was incriminating, someone we don't know anything about as yet.

[Kat_Gram]

Ok, here's a scary scenario :
Joran speaks to Anita on the phone. KLPD has it taped.
OR :
Joran talks to Mumma via email, KLPD finds it when they scoop the computer out of the sweaty house in June.
Wouldn't that be DELICIOUS !
or have I stayed up too many hours in a row.
I like that scenario. Let's vote for that one !

[crazymom]

Ok, here's a scary scenario :
Joran speaks to Anita on the phone. KLPD has it taped.
OR :
Joran talks to Mumma via email, KLPD finds it when they scoop the computer out of the sweaty house in June.
Wouldn't that be DELICIOUS !
or have I stayed up too many hours in a row.
I like that scenario. Let's vote for that one !

Hey Kat Gram......I like your thinking but I think Joran got even more cocky and ran his mouth!

[wreck]

The key to this whole fiasco:
We are not dealing with mental giants here. J2K will dig their own graves.

The Aruban government could have ended this 2 1/2 years ago -- they eff'ed up.
All they had to do was to accept Van Der Stratten's offer to Joran of 90 days in a mental hospital.
Joran was 17 at the time of the crime. He would have gotten NOTHING (relatively).

By the way -- can they now try Joran as an adult??

[crazymom]

Wreck, I don't know the answer to your question. 

I am calling it a night to go and read Beth's book (a suprise from Hubby last night).  Be safe and see you monkeys tomorrow.

[Scandi]

Crazymom? I'm not sure there's anything really new.................anybody?

Thanks CBB.  I am reading the media thread right now.

Nothing new, that I am aware of.  Probably not until Monday, unless something breaks tomorrow, but doubt it.   In fact, I hope they continue to keep things quiet for the right reasons.  To get the job done RIGHT for a change.  I guess, we'll see tomorrow. Go ahead and rest until then   Monday will be the big day, when Joran goes in front of the judge, but still don't see much new coming out...

Hi Dihannah1,  Yea, Sunday might be a no news day.  I heard one TH on CNN tonight that made me so angry.  He was so down on everything about the news, had no hope that good positive things are now happening that might bring resolution to the case.  A round little fattsie guy, and I don't mean that to be very mean at all {  aHemmm,  }, but he needs to change his attitude.  I'll do without that negative stuff.

Tomorrow I think I might bone up on the basics and cool links, like the interview Greta had with Charlie Croes which had so much info.  It has been so long since this case was an everyday part of my life. Gotta go file the rust off    and get things back in perspective.    xox

PS:  It is nice to meet you, and I am still in a state of shock that what has come out at this time is really happening.  Like against all odds, right?

[Scandi]

Haha..I listened to another Pitbull interview on ABC(Top Video). First she couldnt think of PVDS name so she called him the judge. Then in the middle of her spin she said the police car tapes were doctored and is part of the rumor and speculation..

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3902216&page=1

Goodnight *******,  I see you are the one holding down the fort   I'm off to slumberland but so glad I joined today.  What a perfect place to learn and shoot the bull about what we see and think.  Tomorrow I'll be all dressed up for Christmas, and am holding out fervent hopes ******* that it might be a time for the truth to be shown to everyone.  For the family mainly so they can start their lives anew.  I heard Beth and Jug left for Aruba but they must be low-keying it now.  That is good.

See you later gater     xox

[Observer]

Goodnight *******,  I see you are the one holding down the fort   I'm off to slumberland but so glad I joined today.  What a perfect place to learn and shoot the bull about what we see and think.  Tomorrow I'll be all dressed up for Christmas, and am holding out fervent hopes ******* that it might be a time for the truth to be shown to everyone.  For the family mainly so they can start their lives anew.  I heard Beth and Jug left for Aruba but they must be low-keying it now.  That is good.

See you later gater     xox

Glad you joined also! Your right, Beth going to Aruba is Big News! Hopefully very soon Natalee gets her justice and is brought home and the Family has answers.  Goodnight!

[NYC_lover]

Guido

Hauled in under "heavy battery" charge.

In the Netherlands

Has enough power to have to be called Marco, in the Joran tales

Best attorney in Holland........

Maybe a witness deal...

No Guido has not the best attorney in the Netherlands.
Attorney meester Gerard Spong is a top attorney in the Netherlands.
The best top lawyer is meester Bram Moszkowicz, full name: Abraham Moszkowicz.
He is the son of jewish lawyer meester Max Moszkowicz sr.

Meester Mr. Moszkowicz was the lawyer of a person from one of the most great process in the Netherlands.
Bram Moszkowicz is my favorite lawyer.  And I see him gladly in the media, to talk about crimes, by RTL Boulevard and another programms.

[Sue]

OK, now I changed my vote to None of the Above as I think it is someone in The Netherlands who has infiltrated.  Joran wouldn't be saying all this long distance I don't think but could be wrong about that.  I think he was chatting with someone local in Holland when he said all that was incriminating, someone we don't know anything about as yet.

yup he was in drunkin, pot smokin stooper and blabbed his guts out

[Canary]

Klass:

By the way I never got an email that said my sign up was activated.  I only got the first email saying my application was being reviewed.  Yesterday, I took a chance and put in my name and password and it worked but I still have not received an email saying I was accepted.  I don't know if others have had this same problem or not.  Thanks

[KarmaRoundUp]

New Fox News Video

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JOSSY MANSUR - MANAGING EDITOR OF DIARIO - NATALEE DEAD - PROSECUTOR HAS EVIDENCE - DEFENSE DOES NOT KNOW EVIDENCE

***ALL VIDEOS COURTESY OF CARPE NOCTEM***

Thank you Rob and Carpe
So 2K did not have their attys in the court hearing yesterday?

Karma -
Doesn't look like it. Kalpoes alone . . . and a good indication why Taco still doesn't know the evidence.

Taco's associate Rosemarie Arnold said he would know Sunday what the evidence was.

My question is aren't they entitled to have their lawyer present?

Good morning,that's my question also....I'll read ahead to see if it's been answered.