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Question: Which one of Joran's friends infiltrated/snitched/talked?  (Voting closed: November 26, 2007, 01:20:25 PM)
Freddy - 12 (18.8%)
Jaime - 2 (3.1%)
Koen - 6 (9.4%)
Sander - 1 (1.6%)
Andre - 0 (0%)
Guido - 4 (6.3%)
Lorenzo - 8 (12.5%)
Steve Croes - 0 (0%)
Melody - 1 (1.6%)
None of the above - 30 (46.9%)
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« Reply #420 on: November 25, 2007, 09:36:53 PM »



Rob, just wondering if they are trying to keep this a secret how you got the information.  If it needs to be a secret is it a good thing for you to be stating that here?

Casa - there are more people than he can imagine that have witnessed him drugging girls. This one came forward.


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« Reply #421 on: November 25, 2007, 09:38:00 PM »


Rob it doesn't look like she had it on ????

O/T

I wonder if anybody has been able to come up with a fishnet that resembles the top that Natalee was wearing on the morning of May 30, 2005.

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Janet, here is a link to the front page that was done on the fishnet.

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2006/06/18/what-did-the-aruba-park-ranger-pick-up-at-boca-tortuga-area-fabric-that-matched-natalees-top/
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« Reply #422 on: November 25, 2007, 09:38:16 PM »

heheheheh..... K2 lawyer must be on crack

they have different lawyers

one lawyer doesnt know what the other lawyer knows or has  been told by DUTCH TEAM  Cool Laughing
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« Reply #423 on: November 25, 2007, 09:39:56 PM »


TS- Wouldn't you love to know who picked up the tab for Joran's press conference and send-off party to Holland? And who greased Judge Smid's palms?

Yes, I would love to know which alphabet group in Aruba paid for all of that.  ATA/ATHA or whatever those letters are.


Probably arranged by the now defunct Strategic Cover-up Task Force (SCTF) they saw fit to put together just days after Natalee disappeared. It is amazing how fast they knew they had a public relations dilemma on their hands. What is it that cheesy clairvoyant posted just a week after the night he supposedly helped the family find the Sloot house, " there will be far reaching implications"? Charles must have known there were some crooked sonuvabitches involved.
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« Reply #424 on: November 25, 2007, 09:44:13 PM »

mmmmmmmmmmm.....just thinking, I wonder if ny of this has to do with that (ALE) stolen laptop that was found in....ummmmm...dang, I forget where...remember??
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« Reply #425 on: November 25, 2007, 09:45:08 PM »


Thanks San

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« Reply #426 on: November 25, 2007, 09:46:16 PM »

mmmmmmmmmmm.....just thinking, I wonder if ny of this has to do with that (ALE) stolen laptop that was found in....ummmmm...dang, I forget where...remember??



AHHH...here it is
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2007/07/12/kpld-from-the-netherlands-computer-lap-top-stolen-recovered-in-dominican-republic/
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« Reply #427 on: November 25, 2007, 09:46:51 PM »

mmmmmmmmmmm.....just thinking, I wonder if ny of this has to do with that (ALE) stolen laptop that was found in....ummmmm...dang, I forget where...remember??

Venezuela I think.
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« Reply #428 on: November 25, 2007, 09:47:07 PM »

Here's one you can add, Rob:

New York (2) – In a decision that caused a federal judge to respond "I’ve never seen this before," a Brooklyn jury found Westley "The Kid" Paloscio guilty of two counts gambling, but deadlocked on a murder charge against him. Paloscio, described as a "Staten Island bookmaker" with links to New Jersey’s DeCavalcante Family, was accused of luring Joseph "Joey O" Masella to a parking lot where mob associate Anthony Grecco shot him to death. In 1999 Paloscio was one of 39 people arrested in a massive indictment of the DeCavalcante Family. So far he is the only one to stand trial. During jury deliberations the jury foreman allegedly told the other jurors that Paloscio’s attorney, Joseph Tacopina, was "wearing $2,000 suits and I wouldn’t be surprised if the mob is paying for his defense."
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« Reply #429 on: November 25, 2007, 09:48:07 PM »


TS- Wouldn't you love to know who picked up the tab for Joran's press conference and send-off party to Holland? And who greased Judge Smid's palms?

Yes, I would love to know which alphabet group in Aruba paid for all of that.  ATA/ATHA or whatever those letters are.


Probably arranged by the now defunct Strategic Cover-up Task Force (SCTF) they saw fit to put together just days after Natalee disappeared. It is amazing how fast they knew they had a public relations dilemma on their hands. What is it that cheesy clairvoyant posted just a week after the night he supposedly helped the family find the Sloot house, " there will be far reaching implications"? Charles must have known there were some crooked sonuvabitches involved.

Ugh!  Charles Croes!  What a slimeball!!!  I think he was involved in tipping off the Sloots.

I think Aruba is very familiar with how they want to handle any disgruntled tourist.  They mistreated the families of Max DeVries and Buddy Larson.  They had planned to do the same with Natalee's family, but apparently all the elements didn't fall into place quick enough because Beth showed up way to soon.
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« Reply #430 on: November 25, 2007, 09:48:14 PM »

Ok... Just making a post & run... May even be Off / Topic

During my Nap  I had the nightmare of nightmares...

Joran was not held over for the 8 days... the K's appeal was granted because of it and the Dutch threw in the towel by Friday.

Case is NOT closed but there are no longer any "suspects" as defined by Dutch law.  Case file is still & will reamain open so no details of the investigtion can be released until the investiagtion is closed.

This was worse than any Hitchcock movie I ever saw.

I do hope / pray  that by Wed/Thur.  that seveal more are detained... But we are talking about Aruba... where everyone knows everone  and brick walls are being built, again.

Later Monkeys
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« Reply #431 on: November 25, 2007, 09:49:27 PM »

Janet....here is a photo of REAL fishnet
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« Reply #432 on: November 25, 2007, 09:50:46 PM »

Ok... Just making a post & run... May even be Off / Topic

During my Nap  I had the nightmare of nightmares...

Joran was not held over for the 8 days... the K's appeal was granted because of it and the Dutch threw in the towel by Friday.

Case is NOT closed but there are no longer any "suspects" as defined by Dutch law.  Case file is still & will reamain open so no details of the investigtion can be released until the investiagtion is closed.

This was worse than any Hitchcock movie I ever saw.

I do hope / pray  that by Wed/Thur.  that seveal more are detained... But we are talking about Aruba... where everyone knows everone  and brick walls are being built, again.

Later Monkeys
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my dream is totally opposite

so, things are back to even

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« Reply #433 on: November 25, 2007, 09:50:54 PM »

mmmmmmmmmmm.....just thinking, I wonder if ny of this has to do with that (ALE) stolen laptop that was found in....ummmmm...dang, I forget where...remember??

Dominican Republic IIRC
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« Reply #434 on: November 25, 2007, 09:51:56 PM »

mmmmmmmmmmm.....just thinking, I wonder if ny of this has to do with that (ALE) stolen laptop that was found in....ummmmm...dang, I forget where...remember??



AHHH...here it is
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2007/07/12/kpld-from-the-netherlands-computer-lap-top-stolen-recovered-in-dominican-republic/

should have known you would have found the answer...lol Very Happy
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« Reply #435 on: November 25, 2007, 09:53:01 PM »

Quote from: Rob on Today at 04:09:55 PM
"you'll be shocked who this is when I reveal it at the end of the case. The very very end... When Joran and his crew can not harm him / her."

Rob, are you kidding?  The last time around you said you had all the answers and all the connections but it turned out you were wrong. Now you've found a secret source again?!

I have zero faith in what you say.
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« Reply #436 on: November 25, 2007, 09:53:24 PM »

Here's one you can add, Rob:

New York (2) – In a decision that caused a federal judge to respond "I’ve never seen this before," a Brooklyn jury found Westley "The Kid" Paloscio guilty of two counts gambling, but deadlocked on a murder charge against him. Paloscio, described as a "Staten Island bookmaker" with links to New Jersey’s DeCavalcante Family, was accused of luring Joseph "Joey O" Masella to a parking lot where mob associate Anthony Grecco shot him to death. In 1999 Paloscio was one of 39 people arrested in a massive indictment of the DeCavalcante Family. So far he is the only one to stand trial. During jury deliberations the jury foreman allegedly told the other jurors that Paloscio’s attorney, Joseph Tacopina, was "wearing $2,000 suits and I wouldn’t be surprised if the mob is paying for his defense."

nice find Dayhiker. And a possible (ahemmmm) link to a crime family. Sweet.
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« Reply #437 on: November 25, 2007, 09:55:12 PM »

http://www.tacopinalaw.com/pdfs/superlawyer.pdf

Joseph Tacopina is the founder of Joseph
Tacopina, P.C., a Manhattan-based firm
that focuses on criminal, civil, and securities
litigation. Fluent in Italian, Tacopina
has an international office in Milan, Italy.
According to USA Today, Tacopina is one
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attorneys who has risen to the “pinnacle
of prominence.” Tacopina’s courtroom
charm, slick lawyering, and handsome


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why does he need a office in Milan? and I also notice he only has 80 cases listed on that PDF. Also, he must have a Italian Law License. I'm not sure if some countries give a reciprocal license. I doubt it, he probably passed the bar.

http://tinyurl.com/2vxyfk

Here he is involved in the LOUIMA TRIAL - very high profile. Published: June 3, 1999

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A lawyer for Officer Wiese, Joseph Tacopina, said that another reason for Mr. Louima to make up the story about being beaten in the police car was that he was so angry over the torture that ''he wanted everyone or anyone who had anything to do with his arrest that night to pay.''

http://tinyurl.com/36uzhr

Here he is involved in also in the Louima trial

JOSEPH TACOPINA -- Mr. Tacopina, 32, represents Officer Thomas Wiese. He is a former assistant district attorney in Brooklyn who, in private practice, has represented defendants charged with white-collar crimes as well as police officers.

Sopranos actor trial - Published: October 17, 2007
 

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/10/17/arts/NA-A-E-CEL-US-Sopranos-Suspect.php

The statements were made shortly after the December 2005 shooting of Officer Daniel Enchautegui. Brancato, known for playing an aspiring mobster in HBO's "The Sopranos," is alleged to have told investigators co-defendant Steven Armento shot the officer, though Brancato urged him not to.

"You think I'm in a lot of trouble?" the actor allegedly asked after telling officers he did not have a gun.

His lawyer, Joseph Tacopina, said Brancato was sedated and "could barely speak" when he was questioned.

Rutgers Basketball suit - September 12, 2007

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09122007/news/regionalnews/imus_suit_dropped.htm

 A Rutgers basketball player who sued radio host Don Imus for calling her team "nappy-headed hos" has dropped the defamation case less than a month after filing it, The Post has learned.

Kia Vaughn gave no explanation in her "voluntary discontinuance" of the suit against Imus, his sidekick, Bernard McGuirk, and corporate radio and television partners, which she submitted Thursday in Bronx Supreme Court. Her lawyer could not be reached for comment, and Imus' lawyer declined to comment.

McGuirk's high-powered lawyer, Joseph Tacopina, said the suit had no chance of succeeding had Vaughn pursued it.

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http://www.reuters.com/article/fundsFundsNews/idUSN1516518320070315

U.S. stock analyst charged in property fraud case - NEW YORK, March 15 2007

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Spyro Contogouris was charged in U.S. district court with mortgaging a property belonging to his employers, who are unnamed in the indictment, and pocketing the money, the U.S. Attorney's office said in an indictment made public on Thursday.

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Contogouris's lawyer, Joseph Tacopina, said his client maintained his innocence.

http://tinyurl.com/2llkhk

Friday, March 23, 2007

Did Houdini fail to escape from murderous bunch?

NEW YORK — For all his death-defying stunts, Harry Houdini couldn’t escape the Grim Reaper: He died on Halloween 1926, apparently from a punch to the stomach that ruptured his appendix.

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Houdini’s family scheduled a news conference for today to give details on the plans. New York lawyer Joseph Tacopina is helping to clear any legal hurdles for the exhumation.

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http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/12/21/business/nydiamond.php

Leading diamond appraiser in bribery inquiry -  DECEMBER 21, 2005

NEW YORK: Federal prosecutors are gathering information about a bribery scandal at a Manhattan diamond-grading laboratory known as the United States' most trusted evaluator of precious gemstones, people close to the inquiry said.

Pincione's lawyer, Joseph Tacopina, said Monday that his client was in Saudi Arabia and unavailable for comment. Tacopina declined to discuss the case, other than to say that he was negotiating a settlement with the institute.
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Notable case load from Tacopina and Spiegel
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van der Sloot:
Commissioner Kerik:
Michael Jackson:
Abner Louima:
Melanie McGuire:
Lillo Brancato
NY Post Page Six Scandal:
Georgio Chinaglia:
Kodak Bribery Scandal:
Sticky Fingaz :
Mouseketeer Charged with Securities Fraud:
Sex Charges Dropped Against Karate Instructor:
Infamous Body Snatchers Case:
NYC Councilman Charged With Receiving A Bribe:
Salvador Dali Theft:
Brooklyn Judge Indicted:
Parmalat - Corporate Fraud:
Gym Teacher Sex Abuse:
Lexington Capital Securities Fraud:
First United Securities:
Doctors Cleared of Insurance Fraud:
MTA Plumbing Fraud Case:
Police Lieutenant Charged with RICO:
Police Officer Charged With Civil Rights Violations (Morgue Boys Case):
Staten Island Police Sergeant Cleared of Rape:
Lawyer Accused of Theft:
S.G. Cowen:
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Civil Cases:

Imette St. Guillen:

Diana Bianchi:

Discrimination Suit Against Time Warner:


GIA Bribery Scandal:


Suing Prominent Rabbi and Prestigious Synagogue:


Julie's Law:


Houdini Exhumation:

Suing Prestigious Jeweler:

Century 21:

Banana Republic:


Lesbian Police Officer Civil Rights Trial:

Stripper Civil Rights Action:


Waitresses Fired Because of Their Weight:

Bar Sued for Assaulting Patron:


Fasarakis:


Wrongful Death Lawsuit:
Family of New York City Department of Transportation worker files suit over the tragic death of their loved one. Read Article(pdf)

Motors Cristalli, S.R.L.:

Construction Worker Killed at Job Site:


Sexual Harassment Suit Against New York Methodist Hospital:


Kidnapping Lawsuit:
Representing brothers who were kidnapped at knife point by prominent member of New Jersey Community.

Infinity Radio Disc Jockey Lawsuit:
Representing station disc jockey in lawsuit against broadcasting giant.
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« Reply #438 on: November 25, 2007, 09:55:32 PM »

Quote from: Rob on Today at 04:09:55 PM
"you'll be shocked who this is when I reveal it at the end of the case. The very very end... When Joran and his crew can not harm him / her."

Rob, are you kidding?  The last time around you said you had all the answers and all the connections but it turned out you were wrong. Now you've found a secret source again?!

I have zero faith in what you say.

wanna give me an instance? so I may respond?

You seem to chime in when ever you have an issue with me.. so it's go time!
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« Reply #439 on: November 25, 2007, 10:01:58 PM »

Janet....here is a photo of REAL fishnet

Thanks Nut.

The color is very similar to the top of Natalee's dress ... maybe ... just maybe ... the park ranger was holding a some fishnetting.

On the other hand ... why would the park ranger even bother picking up any fishnetting?

When there is no longer trust ... even the truth is not believed.

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