Natalee Case Discussion #693 11/25 - 11/26/2007

[Nut44x4]

It sure seems to me that Karin Janssen made some bold statements and was not held accountable.

I like the one where she stated, they had "more than circumstantial evidence" against the 2.

And she meant the security guards.

COVER-UP QUEEN

Exactly...because she knew Paulus was involved in this over his eyeballs. Protect the ones you love 

[Nut44x4]

i think we should make a video and put it on youtube

thanking the DUTCH investigaotors

perhaps when all is said and done...too soon for that now.

[Helen Back]

It sure seems to me that Karin Janssen made some bold statements and was not held accountable.

I like the one where she stated, they had "more than circumstantial evidence" against the 2.

And she meant the security guards.

COVER-UP QUEEN

You said it!  We listen to the media reports that the THREE are being re-interviewed, as in additional questioning.  IMO they are being interrogated for the FIRST TIME.   They skated right through that ridiculous sham of an investigation 2 1/2 years ago.  If the Dutch are serious about this, they should be having a completely different experience regarding their "questioning".

I believe the re-analysis of evidence has much to do with the stupid text messages the perps sent to each other to try and establish their timelines.  I suspect a text message such as "I'm home", that pinged off a tower no-where near to home, are the contradictions the Dutch team have looked at.  They know exactly where the perps were that night, and Paulus too. 

I hope the Dutch have investigated the previous "investigators".

[truthseeker2]

It sure seems to me that Karin Janssen made some bold statements and was not held accountable.

I like the one where she stated, they had "more than circumstantial evidence" against the 2.

And she meant the security guards.

COVER-UP QUEEN

You said it!  We listen to the media reports that the THREE are being re-interviewed, as in additional questioning.  IMO they are being interrogated for the FIRST TIME.   They skated right through that ridiculous sham of an investigation 2 1/2 years ago.  If the Dutch are serious about this, they should be having a completely different experience regarding their "questioning".

I believe the re-analysis of evidence has much to do with the stupid text messages the perps sent to each other to try and establish their timelines.  I suspect a text message such as "I'm home", that pinged off a tower no-where near to home, are the contradictions the Dutch team have looked at.  They know exactly where the perps were that night, and Paulus too. 

I hope the Dutch have investigated the previous "investigators".

If the original investigators were on top of things they would have known right away that Paulus did not pick Joran up at 11:00 because Joran was home on the computer at 10:33.  I think Joran left that casino with Paulus and I also believe that can be proven when looking at the casino security tape.  I think Paulus was right there at that table with Joran and the MB kids that night.

[Puzzler]

It sure seems to me that Karin Janssen made some bold statements and was not held accountable.

I like the one where she stated, they had "more than circumstantial evidence" against the 2.

And she meant the security guards.

COVER-UP QUEEN

You said it!  We listen to the media reports that the THREE are being re-interviewed, as in additional questioning.  IMO they are being interrogated for the FIRST TIME.   They skated right through that ridiculous sham of an investigation 2 1/2 years ago.  If the Dutch are serious about this, they should be having a completely different experience regarding their "questioning".

I believe the re-analysis of evidence has much to do with the stupid text messages the perps sent to each other to try and establish their timelines.  I suspect a text message such as "I'm home", that pinged off a tower no-where near to home, are the contradictions the Dutch team have looked at.  They know exactly where the perps were that night, and Paulus too. 

I hope the Dutch have investigated the previous "investigators".

If the original investigators were on top of things they would have known right away that Paulus did not pick Joran up at 11:00 because Joran was home on the computer at 10:33.  I think Joran left that casino with Paulus and I also believe that can be proven when looking at the casino security tape.  I think Paulus was right there at that table with Joran and the MB kids that night.

I heard on FOX News that the three suspects are being interrorgated all weekend long.   

[AZLady]

Woo hoo!  I hope they do interrogate them all weekend.  We will have bawling and broken babies by Monday morning.  The truth will be out of their own mouths, then.  I do think the reanalysis of evidence might have included new forensic analysis of Deepak's car.  What do wanna bet the cleaning fluid and chocolate turned back into blood? 

[Lala'sMom]

Someone will have to help me here...I have been reading those Deepak emails again and for the life of me can not see how there is any confession hidden in them...they seem so benign...maybe I should analyze them line by line...but it still eludes me at this time.  Has anyone else found what they think is the confession and location of a body?  I know I read that Hodges claimed that in his book or maybe not.

If those previous statements are so contradictory, and we have pointed out the inconsistencies, then how can you give any credit to those emails which, to me, seem to echo the same story line as the PVs? I need help understanding it all, please.

[Anna]

Interrogated all weekend and Joran doesn't go before the judge until next week.  He will be a mess by then.  I hope.

[Helen Back]

It sure seems to me that Karin Janssen made some bold statements and was not held accountable.

I like the one where she stated, they had "more than circumstantial evidence" against the 2.

And she meant the security guards.

COVER-UP QUEEN

You said it!  We listen to the media reports that the THREE are being re-interviewed, as in additional questioning.  IMO they are being interrogated for the FIRST TIME.   They skated right through that ridiculous sham of an investigation 2 1/2 years ago.  If the Dutch are serious about this, they should be having a completely different experience regarding their "questioning".

I believe the re-analysis of evidence has much to do with the stupid text messages the perps sent to each other to try and establish their timelines.  I suspect a text message such as "I'm home", that pinged off a tower no-where near to home, are the contradictions the Dutch team have looked at.  They know exactly where the perps were that night, and Paulus too. 

I hope the Dutch have investigated the previous "investigators".

If the original investigators were on top of things they would have known right away that Paulus did not pick Joran up at 11:00 because Joran was home on the computer at 10:33.  I think Joran left that casino with Paulus and I also believe that can be proven when looking at the casino security tape.  I think Paulus was right there at that table with Joran and the MB kids that night.

You're right Truthseeker.  I would make one change:  The investigators DID KNOW that Paulus was not where he said he was.

[Katysmom]

Someone will have to help me here...I have been reading those Deepak emails again and for the life of me can not see how there is any confession hidden in them...they seem so benign...maybe I should analyze them line by line...but it still eludes me at this time.  Has anyone else found what they think is the confession and location of a body?  I know I read that Hodges claimed that in his book or maybe not.

If those previous statements are so contradictory, and we have pointed out the inconsistencies, then how can you give any credit to those emails which, to me, seem to echo the same story line as the PVs? I need help understanding it all, please.

I don't take a lot of stock into what Hodge's says.  Anyone can read into anything and see what they want to see.  Like going to a phsyciatrist; all they are good for is to give their own opinion.  You can go to 5 different ones and come up with 5 different diagnosis

[truthseeker2]

Someone will have to help me here...I have been reading those Deepak emails again and for the life of me can not see how there is any confession hidden in them...they seem so benign...maybe I should analyze them line by line...but it still eludes me at this time.  Has anyone else found what they think is the confession and location of a body?  I know I read that Hodges claimed that in his book or maybe not.

If those previous statements are so contradictory, and we have pointed out the inconsistencies, then how can you give any credit to those emails which, to me, seem to echo the same story line as the PVs? I need help understanding it all, please.

Do we have all of the emails that Deepak sent to 'Betty'?  I have copies of two of them and I have to agree with you.  It's difficult to see anything in those.  The ones I have are when Deepak is telling the original lie and even says that Natalee approached Joran to win her money back which we now know was not the case.  The other email I have is about the arrest of the innocent security guards.  The only thing that stood out to me was where Deepak said "we are almost off the hook".  I just thought that sounded like someone who thought he was about to get away with something.

[KarmaRoundUp]

It sure seems to me that Karin Janssen made some bold statements and was not held accountable.

I like the one where she stated, they had "more than circumstantial evidence" against the 2.

And she meant the security guards.

COVER-UP QUEEN

You said it!  We listen to the media reports that the THREE are being re-interviewed, as in additional questioning.  IMO they are being interrogated for the FIRST TIME.   They skated right through that ridiculous sham of an investigation 2 1/2 years ago.  If the Dutch are serious about this, they should be having a completely different experience regarding their "questioning".

I believe the re-analysis of evidence has much to do with the stupid text messages the perps sent to each other to try and establish their timelines.  I suspect a text message such as "I'm home", that pinged off a tower no-where near to home, are the contradictions the Dutch team have looked at.  They know exactly where the perps were that night, and Paulus too. 

I hope the Dutch have investigated the previous "investigators".

If the original investigators were on top of things they would have known right away that Paulus did not pick Joran up at 11:00 because Joran was home on the computer at 10:33.  I think Joran left that casino with Paulus and I also believe that can be proven when looking at the casino security tape.  I think Paulus was right there at that table with Joran and the MB kids that night.

Wonder when/if Paulus will be arrested?Or will they claim not enough evidence against him?I think in the mean time they should at least pull his atty license and ban him from the court house.

[truthseeker2]

I expect Paulus to be implicated soon.  Let's hope it's very soon.

[Observer]

Congratulations to Natalee!! Sounds like they are indeed being interrogated for the first time..Sadly she deserved a real Investigation 30 months ago..I wish those Interrogators the best of luck and pray to god for a breakthrough..

[Nut44x4]

Someone will have to help me here...I have been reading those Deepak emails again and for the life of me can not see how there is any confession hidden in them...they seem so benign...maybe I should analyze them line by line...but it still eludes me at this time.  Has anyone else found what they think is the confession and location of a body?  I know I read that Hodges claimed that in his book or maybe not.

If those previous statements are so contradictory, and we have pointed out the inconsistencies, then how can you give any credit to those emails which, to me, seem to echo the same story line as the PVs? I need help understanding it all, please.

Thoughtprints Lala's. You really need the book to know what he means. I still have not been able to read it cover to cover...it is over my head, but I do 'get' the concept. Like talking in code. Saying one thing but it can be interpreted another way...hard to explain.

[MuffyBee]

I expect Paulus to be implicated soon.  Let's hope it's very soon.

I'm hoping for this too, but am a bit leery about that happening.  Since he wasn't brought in with the J2K, I'm hoping he is being left to sweat it out a while (literally!).  I wonder about when Anita and Val being brought in a couple of weeks ago for interviews.  It would seem that would be a tip off, but as arrogant as that family has been, maybe they thought things were just fine and the interviews were to wind things up for the end of the year.  (A false sense of security).  I hope no deal has been made for Paulus under the table. 

[Katysmom]

Congratulations to Natalee..Sounds like they are indeed being interrogated for the first time..Sadly she deserved a real Investigation 30 months ago..I wish those Interrogators the best of luck and pray for a breakthrough..

I so agree with you, *******.  This is long overdue, but at least it is finally happening.  For the past 2 1/2 years we have all come together to fight for justice; Natalee has become "our" daughter in a sense.  There hasn't been one day where I haven't thought of or prayed for Natalee, Beth and Dave at least once, and when this is all over everyone can finally have some sense of peace.  But it will never truely be over.  Natalee has wedged herself into our hearts and there she will stay for eternity.

[Lala'sMom]

Someone will have to help me here...I have been reading those Deepak emails again and for the life of me can not see how there is any confession hidden in them...they seem so benign...maybe I should analyze them line by line...but it still eludes me at this time.  Has anyone else found what they think is the confession and location of a body?  I know I read that Hodges claimed that in his book or maybe not.

If those previous statements are so contradictory, and we have pointed out the inconsistencies, then how can you give any credit to those emails which, to me, seem to echo the same story line as the PVs? I need help understanding it all, please.

Do we have all of the emails that Deepak sent to 'Betty'?  I have copies of two of them and I have to agree with you.  It's difficult to see anything in those.  The ones I have are when Deepak is telling the original lie and even says that Natalee approached Joran to win her money back which we now know was not the case.  The other email I have is about the arrest of the innocent security guards.  The only thing that stood out to me was where Deepak said "we are almost off the hook".  I just thought that sounded like someone who thought he was about to get away with something.

Glad I am not the only person that thinks this...the first statement by each of these guys is based on lies...okay, okay, there is a little truth interspersed, but I don't see any confession there.  It must be me. 

[klaasend]

What if the prosecutor has seen the proof now that Deepak did indeed admit to all of them having sex with Natalee from the Skeeters hard drive?

[Lala'sMom]

Someone will have to help me here...I have been reading those Deepak emails again and for the life of me can not see how there is any confession hidden in them...they seem so benign...maybe I should analyze them line by line...but it still eludes me at this time.  Has anyone else found what they think is the confession and location of a body?  I know I read that Hodges claimed that in his book or maybe not.

If those previous statements are so contradictory, and we have pointed out the inconsistencies, then how can you give any credit to those emails which, to me, seem to echo the same story line as the PVs? I need help understanding it all, please.

Thoughtprints Lala's. You really need the book to know what he means. I still have not been able to read it cover to cover...it is over my head, but I do 'get' the concept. Like talking in code. Saying one thing but it can be interpreted another way...hard to explain.

Well, pick a place and tell me where the thoughtprints are in the email and tell me how it is interpreted.  I want to understand this. Please.