Natalee Case Discussion #695 11/27/2007

[Rob]

Here is the latest. Just linking it.

http://zoltanzion.blogspot.com/

As related to me.

[Frank]

Hey Buckshot,

You could at least credit where you got that article?

[BUCKSHOT]

FRANK:

SOURCE OF ARTICLE: http://www.arubadirtypolice.blogspot.com/

Aruba: Premeditated Paulus in Mos-hairs
If you're Hans Mos, you're not coming to Aruba to hunt 3 chipmunks like Joran and the Kalpoes. You're coming for bigger game.

Paulus van der sloot is bigger game.

Unless Joe Tacopina's story that Joran and the chipmunks cell phones just happen to drift 3-5 miles offshore and we're pinged and forensically proven, the 3 are about to know that knee buckling feeling when your done.

But it's Paulus Hans Mos is after. The court has already said he has lied, has had contact with Natalee on multiple occasions and is, in the court's view, likely responsible for her disappearance. He was arrested for the premeditated murder of Natalee Holloway.

Janssen as we've written was a tart, a person way over her head, a legal nanny. Mos didn't go to Aruba to babysit anything. He came to end the embarrassment that is Aruba and the van der sloots.

Joran and the Kalpoes are just the beginning. Mos is letting everyone up the chain have their poison. Fall on your own sword, or I'll do it for you.

Premeditated Paulus connects the dots to the adults in this vicious crime. But once Mos has bagged his big game, he'll be back to Holland hunting again.

Oduber, Croes and van der straaten will have different masters. Interest will fade, but the satisfaction of everyone who witnessed this crime will be sated.

Especially after we all sign the card sent to Paulus and Joran letting them know, that no matter what, if and when they every see the light of day again, we'll be waiting.
posted by DEETCH at 9:02 PM   

[private eye]

I have to say that I have never seen such a miracle as is evidenced by the endless dedication to the truth that the existence of this site and the participation of you posters represents. Whenever Beth has been too tired to speak or prohibited by the process to talk, this group has always, without fail, stepped up to the plate and pushed this process forward. Only the hand of God could have created the resources and dedication required to have accomplished this. Every member of this site should pat themselves on their back for a job well done. I am impressed, amazed, and in awe, not to mention forever thankful to each and every one of you as it is and has been a pleasure to watch the ferious protection you have provided Beth as it makes me believe in the existence of a God and the humanity of man.

That sincere thanks being expressed, I do have one brief comment I would like to make. I believe that the significant portions of the new evidence could well be old evidence that was never presented to the courts, such as the June 10 break down of Joran, or the tape recording of the boys in the patrol car. I think there may well be other new evidence, but I always felt that they had all of the evidence they needed to convict the boys as of June 10, 2005. Anyway, I do enjoy all of you and keep up the good work.

[BUCKSHOT]

JUST BROWSING AROUND. HERE IS ANOTHER ARTICLE: http://reallycreepypeople.blogspot.com/

Thursday, September 27, 2007
NATALEE HOLLOWAY~SOMEONE KNOWS THE TRUTH !


THE POST BELOW WAS LEFT AT ONE OF MY BLOGS THE OTHER DAY. COULD THIS BE THE REAL TRUTH ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO NATALEE HOLLOWAY THAT FATEFUL NIGHT ? I DO NOT KNOW WHO WROTE IT BUT THEY TOOK A LOT OF TIME TO WRITE IT ALL. IT IS QUITE LONG. READ BELOW. TO YOU NATALEE ~ MAY GOD KEEP YOU SAFE NATALEE. I KNOW YOU ARE WITH HIM NOW. NO ONE CAN EVER HARM YOU AGAIN. YOU ARE LOVED BY PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD. WE WILL NEVER FORGET YOU. ! ~

Anonymous said...
Joran van der Sloot may you rot in Hell.
Hello I am a cousin from Deepak I seen it all

Natalee Holloway had been at the casino, and had been drinking with the Joran Van der Sloot he is as guilty as hell the creep slime vampire bat . The two brothers one called Satish and Deepak and Joran Van der sloot, and I thinks a fellow named Steve all creeps , whom had been arrested about this case in 2006, had a plan. They had done this type of thing to so many other other girls in Aruba before. They were to give Natalee a last drugged drink to go, and Joran was to put a drug in her drink, I think a 'Date Rape Drug". He did. Natalee was not really so drunk when she left with Joran Van der Sloot, she was drugged! by all means Joran had asked her to go with him to see the Light House she was pulled to the car . Natalee was not sure about going and had refused at first , but with the drink and the drug in it, she followed him to the awaiting car like a sheep waiting to be slaugthered. It was just her and Joran Van der sloot, not the rest of the guys in the car , as has been reported by other withnesses. Joran started to drive to the Light House but Natalee passed out cold almost as soon as she got in the car! Joran then turned around and drove to a beach close to her hotel! He parked and dragged her out of the car onto the beach where the other three guys came out of hiding. The two brothers and the Steve guy. They all took turns raping her and when the last brother was nearly finished, Natalee woke up but was very groggy, and the second brother finished, as she started to fight them off. They were very angry and surprised, as one of them who gave Joran the drug, was supposed to give enough to keep her out, nearly all night!They all held her down, as Joran put his hands over her nose and mouth and hit her aswell until she died! Remember, Natalee was very drugged but still managed to fight them off, as best she could. She was a good girl but at the wrong place at the wrong time . She had been tricked and drugged. Other girls had been victims, as well waking up on beaches in the morning light, knowing something terrible had happened to them, but not actually remembering what it was.

The boys had not expected Natalee to wake up, so this was a surprise to them all! One of them quickly called someone the father of Joran van der Sloot and soon another car drove up to the parking spot on the beach. This person brought a black, zippered, coroner's, body bag. They then all helped put her inside. I couldn't see the face of the man who came with the bag, but thought it strange that someone could come up with a body bag so quickly! Next they put Natalee in the back seat of the car who's owner brought the body bag. Natalee was inside the bag and it was dark, so they thought no one would be able to see into the back seat, and I assumed that they did not have to drive far to hide the body.

But fortunate there were other withnesses as well . The first gardener that worked for the Van der Sloot family was said to have been deported he seen it aswell but was sent home to where he came from with some money to keep his mouth closed. He was forced and taken by a small plane, to an island not more than 5 or 10 minutes away, from Aruba, to a 'Compound" in the jungle. The 'People running drug things in Aruba, did not want him to talk since he saw something that night the father of joran van der sloot carrying a big black bag and surely something weird , as he had already spoke to someone, a reporter, I think, and they would have killed him aswell, but it would have looked to suspicious, so they just said he was "deported". The first gardener was from a group of poor people , and came to Aruba to work for the Van der Sloots, in order to earn money for their poor family.So some main "withnesses " gone the drugbarons at the aruba drug kartell, so authorities didn't make any attempt to find him, as they thought he would never tell and he couldn't be found anyway. If those same people thought he had talked about what he saw, they would not hesitate to kill the entire poor family, so that no one would be left to talk! It would be mass genocide! He, however, did talk what he really saw that night to some guards that night , and some other people know about what actually happened. I have to say that at least two of the young men that raped Natalee, and killed her, went straight home after the beach to set up alibi's the bastards.
The First Gardener got up around 4 AM to 4:30 AM, or when ever his usual morning work begins, and that is when he saw the guys with the body bag. He knew something was terribly wrong but he quickly turned around and went back to where he slept until no one else was around. When this gardener, told the wrong person that he saw the Van der Sloot boy at a certain time, I think his first statement was correct. This was his only mistake, and they had to get rid of him. They had no idea he saw them with the black body bag. I cannot tell you where she is buried, as if one of them finds out I have repeated this much, they will try and move it. I just know some very powerful people way up in the island gourvernement with some powerfull influence on that Island helped those guys hide the body and coverup all the tracks.
Poor me I am afraid to talk

The Dutch authorities sent those guys over to Aruba, as they had already been in trouble and they were an embarrassment to the Dutch Authorities. Joran Van der Sloot and the two brothers, would go to school and leave whenever they felt like it rich new kids and you know the rest aswell and the teachers were too afraid to call them on it!
Those three got away with first degree 'Murder' all the time. They finally got into such trouble that they had to be sent away. Joran was back in Aruba, at it again, along with his friends. but fled to Holland to the city Arnhem and sometimes city Haarlem in Holland
You know that the Island survives on it's drug and tourist industry. Many drugs are sent from Aruba. This is why the authorities are so afraid of this story, as they all get kick-backs from the drug money, I know there was a big up coverup meeting there were also six people who had a meeting this year in an Aruba Courtroom.
One included the current Judge. They were talking about the case, and especially about Satish Deepak. They said he was a loose cannon and unstable, and were worried that he might talk! It seems everyone, all adult, in that courtroom, knew what happened to Natalee including the Senior Van der Sloot, who was there in the room with the Judge and four others. They were not in session, as the Judge had his robe open and was standing around with the rest of these people.

Poor Natalee Holloway case is a real problem for Aruba may God have her soul, as she is not the only one who has gone missing because of the same type of action, or drugs. So the Drug kartell warned to sent Joran van der Sloot to Holland They cannot kill the entire Van der Sloot Family and the others that have been arrested, which would probably solve Aruba's problem, as far as the drug business goes.
I have seen that Joran Van der Sloot boy was wearing a blue and white stripped shirt the night Natalee was murdered, and Satish wore a blue T-shirt.


I have to say the gardener said Natalee, is buried under two false floors under the old gray garden shed, on the Van der Sloot property! But because if they catch wind me talking, the body will surely be moved! The first floor of the gardeners shed had some pallets for a floor, and under this floor is another false floor that has dirt over it, so it looks like the ground, but if you look closely, you will see two small handles near the edges of the floor that can be taken up. Even the present gardener doesn't know it's there. In this shed is a lawn mower, and a rake, a bucket and some garden tools. There is also a terrible odor that is partially from the fish cut up to fertilize the gardens. This is what throws them off the scent, so to speak. Natalee is not alone under there. There is another body in there with her,

Well may be you can help
my identity must be protected in case this comes out .
I hope you are very careful with this information and I leave it with you, because you seem to be the only one who can help

I am a cousin from Deepak I seen it all

Thu Aug 16, 04:21:00 PM EDT

[Rob]

I have to say that I have never seen such a miracle as is evidenced by the endless dedication to the truth that the existence of this site and the participation of you posters represents. Whenever Beth has been too tired to speak or prohibited by the process to talk, this group has always, without fail, stepped up to the plate and pushed this process forward. Only the hand of God could have created the resources and dedication required to have accomplished this. Every member of this site should pat themselves on their back for a job well done. I am impressed, amazed, and in awe, not to mention forever thankful to each and every one of you as it is and has been a pleasure to watch the ferious protection you have provided Beth as it makes me believe in the existence of a God and the humanity of man.

That sincere thanks being expressed, I do have one brief comment I would like to make. I believe that the significant portions of the new evidence could well be old evidence that was never presented to the courts, such as the June 10 break down of Joran, or the tape recording of the boys in the patrol car. I think there may well be other new evidence, but I always felt that they had all of the evidence they needed to convict the boys as of June 10, 2005. Anyway, I do enjoy all of you and keep up the good work.

private eye -
WoW, this is one of the nicest things I ever seen posted.

And Welcome.

[BUCKSHOT]

THE ARTICLE I JUST POSTED SEEMS LIKE B.S. TO ME.

ARTICLES THAT DETAIL THE EVENING INTEREST ME.

[Kat_Gram]

So, it was more than something bad happened ... and then we didn't know what to do .. because we are little kids ...
An action was taken which a reasonable person would assume would cause death ..
............
Christmas past : Last St. Nicholas Day  Joran was dancing and smirking out at us
Christmas present : December 6, 2007 ... sleeping on a concrete slab with rats and cockroaches
Christmas future : Chain Gang .. 15 years for Joran and Kalpoes ...  

[klaasend]

I have to say that I have never seen such a miracle as is evidenced by the endless dedication to the truth that the existence of this site and the participation of you posters represents. Whenever Beth has been too tired to speak or prohibited by the process to talk, this group has always, without fail, stepped up to the plate and pushed this process forward. Only the hand of God could have created the resources and dedication required to have accomplished this. Every member of this site should pat themselves on their back for a job well done. I am impressed, amazed, and in awe, not to mention forever thankful to each and every one of you as it is and has been a pleasure to watch the ferious protection you have provided Beth as it makes me believe in the existence of a God and the humanity of man.

That sincere thanks being expressed, I do have one brief comment I would like to make. I believe that the significant portions of the new evidence could well be old evidence that was never presented to the courts, such as the June 10 break down of Joran, or the tape recording of the boys in the patrol car. I think there may well be other new evidence, but I always felt that they had all of the evidence they needed to convict the boys as of June 10, 2005. Anyway, I do enjoy all of you and keep up the good work.

Welcome to SM Private Eye!  Thank you for all the kind words!

I agree with you 100%, everything Hans Mos needs is in the videos of interrigations on June 10th.  That's where they will find the confession.

[SunnyinTX]

I have to say that I have never seen such a miracle as is evidenced by the endless dedication to the truth that the existence of this site and the participation of you posters represents. Whenever Beth has been too tired to speak or prohibited by the process to talk, this group has always, without fail, stepped up to the plate and pushed this process forward. Only the hand of God could have created the resources and dedication required to have accomplished this. Every member of this site should pat themselves on their back for a job well done. I am impressed, amazed, and in awe, not to mention forever thankful to each and every one of you as it is and has been a pleasure to watch the ferious protection you have provided Beth as it makes me believe in the existence of a God and the humanity of man.

That sincere thanks being expressed, I do have one brief comment I would like to make. I believe that the significant portions of the new evidence could well be old evidence that was never presented to the courts, such as the June 10 break down of Joran, or the tape recording of the boys in the patrol car. I think there may well be other new evidence, but I always felt that they had all of the evidence they needed to convict the boys as of June 10, 2005. Anyway, I do enjoy all of you and keep up the good work.

Welcome Private Eye...good to have you aboard...thanks you for your heartfelt post....I agree with teh bolded above and it seems the new prosecutor does too since he said if they had this information in 2005 the 3 would never have been released.

[klaasend]

Official FOX transcript of Greta's show last night with Kock and Hans Mos:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,313168,00.html

[SunnyinTX]

THE ARTICLE I JUST POSTED SEEMS LIKE B.S. TO ME.

ARTICLES THAT DETAIL THE EVENING INTEREST ME.

Glad I read ahead...I agree with you....pure bull crap...we have seen so much of this type of thing these past 2 1/2 years...people wanting to inject themselves to fulfill their need for  attention....they will say anything for attention

[klaasend]

Update on Greta's blog:

November 27th, 2007 10:43 AM Eastern
update…
by Greta Van Susteren

We just went to the van der Sloot home…no one is home (we will go back.) If you follow GretaWire you know their neighbors had a monkey in an outdoor cage that we fed daily summer of 05…that is the same monkey who socked me and we caught it on video camera. Well…we brought food today for the monkey but his cage was empty….looked like the monkey has not been there in a long time.

[ldstlou]

I have to say that I have never seen such a miracle as is evidenced by the endless dedication to the truth that the existence of this site and the participation of you posters represents. Whenever Beth has been too tired to speak or prohibited by the process to talk, this group has always, without fail, stepped up to the plate and pushed this process forward. Only the hand of God could have created the resources and dedication required to have accomplished this. Every member of this site should pat themselves on their back for a job well done. I am impressed, amazed, and in awe, not to mention forever thankful to each and every one of you as it is and has been a pleasure to watch the ferious protection you have provided Beth as it makes me believe in the existence of a God and the humanity of man.

That sincere thanks being expressed, I do have one brief comment I would like to make. I believe that the significant portions of the new evidence could well be old evidence that was never presented to the courts, such as the June 10 break down of Joran, or the tape recording of the boys in the patrol car. I think there may well be other new evidence, but I always felt that they had all of the evidence they needed to convict the boys as of June 10, 2005. Anyway, I do enjoy all of you and keep up the good work.

That was one of the nicest posts I have ever read. I agree that some of the most amazing people are here at SM!!

[SunnyinTX]

Official FOX transcript of Greta's show last night with Kock and Hans Mos:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,313168,00.html

thanks Klaas...so glad Great got there and got some great interviews...

[Lala'sMom]

Hi everyone!  Has Tony been around today? Still wondering about that last post of his.  Okay.  I am a bit less skeptical today so I will provide some S/S for your amusement in a few minutes. 

I think I should have worn my muffs for Rob's video...

[Mere]

Good morning monkeys...

Thanks for the information on the boat heading for Aruba.

A thought about who might be the individual wired for information.  I do think Joran was the target.  I hesitate to think a female was wired.  It would take less than an hour for Joran to have his hands all over a good looking girl.  I think it was a male.  A student...A roommate...A friend from Aruba now living in the Netherlands.

Welcome to the new monkeys.....!

[SunnyinTX]

Hi everyone!  Has Tony been around today? Still wondering about that last post of his.  Okay.  I am a bit less skeptical today so I will provide some S/S for your amusement in a few minutes. 

I think I should have worn my muffs for Rob's video...

  Morning Lala's..haven't seen Tony since his post yesterday....

[NYC_lover]

Not just the Netherlands, but the entire world is following this case.  Each possible indication is therefore used to make an issue from.  Former district attorney Helen Lejeuz, who as a lawyer helps Natalee’s mother, Beth Holloway, told ABC that the suspects thought that their phones are no longer being tapped.  “It has been a long time and people tend to relax and perhaps talk – say things they have never said before – and prosecutors and policemen have good and well-trained ears.”

CBS News mentions a telephone tap, indicating that one of the brothers have gone back to the beach the night Holloway disappeared.

This is remarkable to call, attorney Helen Lejeuz sees, she thought the suspects, their phones are no longer being tapped.
When she really thought this, this is very wrong. In the normal pace of a case, heard a lawyer to know about telephone tapping of his or her client. Public prosecutors tap phones and cell phones, also when there suspicion appears in a case in the Netherlands. Also witnesses get a phone tap to them and them family. That is very and very sick, but yeah as the law speaks, het recht is slecht (the law is bad).
Also they don't know the different betweens to:
* A witness and a suspect
* A disappearance and a missing
* The Dutch law preconception also considered witnesses of indictable offences and the person as a head suspect in that case, where the person was a witness in

[klaasend]

Hi everyone!  Has Tony been around today? Still wondering about that last post of his.  Okay.  I am a bit less skeptical today so I will provide some S/S for your amusement in a few minutes. 

I think I should have worn my muffs for Rob's video...

No, Tony has not been back and I haven't seen anything elsewhere about Steve Croes.