http://www.diario-aruba.com/2007/11/27/No less than 4 articles.
First one: JVDS detained, next date 12/07. 2K next date, 11/29.SOSPECHOSONAN DEN CASO HOLLOWAY, DETENI PA MAS TEMPO
ORANJESTAD(AAN): Dialuna Ministerio Publico a manda un comunicado pa prensa, den cual ta bisa cu e sospechoso Joran van der Sloot entre otro deteni riba sospecho di ta envolvi den homicidio di of maltrato (pisa) cu morto como consecuencia, contra Natalee Holloway, a presenta Dialuna merdia dilanti di huez comisario.
El a wordo scucha relaciona cu e contenido di e orden di su “bewaring”, duna anteriormente y tambe relaciona cu e peticion pa prolonga e orden di “bewaring”.
Huez Comisario a scucha Joran den presencia di su abogado y a prolonga e orden di bewaring, cu 8 dia mas.
E abogado di e sospechoso no tabata di acuerdo cu e detencion di su cliente na Hulanda, e orden di bewaring y e peticion pa prolonga e orden di bewaring.
El a pidi pa laga su cliente liber inmediatamente, pero huez comisario a rechaza esey.O.M ta mira e decision aki como un confirmacion di su ponencia cu suficiente material di prueba nobo a wordo presenta, pa ordena prolongacion di e bewaring.
E investigacion lo continua e siguiente dianan.Mas tarda dia 29 di November proximo, Ministerio Publico lo dicidi si a base di e investigacion e “inbewaringstelling” di e rumannan Kalpoe lo wordo pidi.
Den e caso contra Joran van der Sloot, mas tarda dia 7 di December proximo, lo mester tuma un decision si lo pidi gevangenhouding(continuacion di detencion).
Online Pap translation:
sospechosonan in caso holloway,
deteni for more time oranjestad(aan): monday ministerio publico owing to send one comunicado for prensa, in cual is tell cu the sospechoso
joran van der sloot among another deteni on suspicion of is
envolvi in homicidio of or maltrato (pisa) cu dead because; consecuencia, contra natalee holloway, owing to present monday afternoon fast of huez comisario.
past owing to wordo listen relaciona cu the contenido of the orden of his “bewaring”, give anteriormente y also relaciona cu the peticion for prolonga the orden of “bewaring”.
huez comisario owing to listen joran in presencia of his advocate y owing to prolonga the orden of bewaring, cu 8 day more.
the advocate of the sospechoso not was of acuerdo cu the detencion of his cliente at the netherlands, the orden of bewaring y the peticion for prolonga the orden of bewaring.
past owing to ask for let his cliente pound at once, but huez comisario owing to rechaza esey.o.m is see the decision here because; one confirmacion of his ponencia cu sufficient material of proof new owing to wordo present, for ordena prolongacion of the bewaring.
the investigacion will continua the next dianan.mas tarda day
29 of november proximo, ministerio publico will dicidi if owing to base of the investigacion the “inbewaringstelling” of the rumannan
kalpoe will wordo ask.
in the caso contra
joran van der sloot, more tarda day
7 of december proximo, will have to take one decision if will ask gevangenhouding(continuacion of detencion).
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Apparently Kock talking about tapping into cell phone conversations.segun David Kock, indicacion fuerte cu
APARATONAN PA SCUCHA CONVERSACION, A WORDO
PONI DEN CAS DI E SOSPECHOSONAN
ORANJESTAD(AAN): Abogado David Kock, encarga cu defensa di Satish Kalpoe durante un conferencia di prensa a trece dilanti cu a bin resulta cu conversacionnan den cas di e sospechosonan a wordo scucha.
Bo por scucha e conversacionnan aki si bo tin aparatura poni den e cas.Kock a bisa cu e sa cu no ta e hendenan di e cas a pone e aparatonan di graba.
E sa si cu den pasado e personanan a wordo saca for di nan cas cu e pretexto cu autoridadnan mester a hasi testnan di celular den e cas.
A resulta cu despues di e supuesto testnan aki, conversacionnan a wordo scucha for di e cas.E abogado a sigui bisa cu no ta asina cu pasobra e caso mester wordo soluciona, bo mag di cuminza hasi cosnan cu no mag di wordo hasi.
Den opinion di oficina di Wix Kock y Zeppenfeld, Ministerio Publico ta bayendo mucho leu cu esaki, buscando declaracionnan contradictorio, pa asina nan sigui cue caso.Nunca e rumannan Kalpoe a huy y semper nan a bay warda di polis, ora cu nan a wordo pidi.
Online Pap translation:
according david kock, indicacion strong cu
aparatonan for listen conversacion, owing to wordo
poni in cas of the sospechosonan oranjestad(aan): advocate
david kock, encarga cu
defence of satish kalpoe during one conferencia of prensa owing to trece fast cu owing to come resulta cu
conversacionnan in cas of the sospechosonan owing to wordo listen.
could you listen the conversacionnan here if do you have aparatura poni in the cas.kock owing to tell cu the know cu do not the hendenan of the cas owing to place the aparatonan of graba.
the know if cu in pasado the personanan owing to wordo saca for of they cas cu the pretexto cu autoridadnan have to owing to make testnan of
celular in the cas.
owing to resulta cu after of the supuesto testnan here, conversacionnan owing to wordo listen for of the cas.e advocate owing to follow tell cu do not so cu because the caso have to wordo soluciona, do you mag of cuminza make cosnan cu not mag of wordo make.
in opinion of office of
wix kock y
zeppenfeld, ministerio publico is bayendo mucho far cu this, buscando declaracionnan contradictorio, for so they follow cue caso.nunca the rumannan kalpoe owing to huy y always they owing to bay keep of police, hour cu they owing to wordo ask.
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Attorney Ronnie Wix questions the number of days detention; apparently it will add up to 15 days instead of 10 permitted -- a set of numbers unfamiliar to me. I do recall that the "threshold" (my term) of evidence must ratchet up for each separate continuation of detention.segun Ronnie Wix,
E BASE LEGAL DI DETENCION DI E SOSPECHOSONAN
DEN CASO HOLLOWAY, TA HOPI CUESTIONABLE
ORANJESTAD(AAN): Durante conferencia di prensa di Oficina Kock y Wix, relaciona cu caso di desaparicion di Natalee Holloway, abogado Ronnie Wix a trece dilanti cu e base legal di detencion di e 3 sospechosonan di e caso Holloway, ta hopi cuestionable.
Esaki pasobra e sospechosonan a wordo cera caba den pasado, den loke ta wordo yama “detencion preventivo”(inverzekeringstelling).Ley ta bisa cu e cantidad maximo di dia cu un persona por keda deteni den detencion preventivo ta 10 dia y anteriormente nan a keda deteni 10 dia caba.
Awor nan ta wordo deteni a base di mesun base legal, di cual e cantidad maximo di dia cu nan mag di keda deteni, a pasa caba.Si bo wak bon pues, nan ta cera awor 15 dia, mientras cu 10 so ta permiti.
Bo no por bay den “invezekeringstelling”, bay pa “bewaring” y awor den mesun caso bay bek na “inverzekeringstelling”.Pesey ta bringando esaki y Diabierna a trece e punto aki pa dilanti, pero e huez no tabata tin oido pa esaki.
Ministerio Publico a bay asina leu tambe di stroba e abogadonan hasi un bon defensa, door di exigi pa e oficina di abogado representa solamente un di e rumannan Kalpoe. Esaki siendo cu e oficina durante 2 aña y mey semper a prepara su mes bon y tin conocimento di tur aspecto di e caso.
Segun Wix, el a puntra Fiscal mayor Hans Mos, dicon nan kier separa e defensa for di otro, despues cu den 2 aña y mey no tabata tin problema.
Mos no por a contesta esaki y segun Wix e unico motibo cu e por pensa pues ta cu nan kier hasi esaki, pasobra defensa di e oficina di Kock y Wix, tabata hopi exitoso cu defensa di e sospechosonan.
Online Pap translation:
according ronnie wix,
the base legal of detencion of the sospechosonan
in caso holloway,
is much cuestionable oranjestad(aan): during conferencia of prensa of office
kock y
wix, relaciona cu caso of desaparicion of natalee holloway, advocate ronnie wix owing to trece fast cu the
base legal of detencion of the 3 sospechosonan of the caso holloway, is
much cuestionable.
this because the sospechosonan owing to wordo close end in pasado, in thing is wordo calling “detencion preventivo”(inverzekeringstelling).ley is tell cu the cantidad
maximo of day cu one person can stay deteni in detencion preventivo is 10 day y anteriormente they owing to stay deteni 10 day end.
now they're wordo deteni owing to base of same base legal, of cual the cantidad maximo of day cu they mag of stay deteni, owing to happen end.si do you look at good then,
they're close now 15 day, while cu 10 only is permiti.
do you not can bay in “invezekeringstelling”, bay for “bewaring” y now in same caso bay bek at “inverzekeringstelling”.pesey is bringando this y diabierna owing to trece the sharp here for fast, but the huez not was have oido for this.
{Anyone know what “invezekeringstelling” and “bewaring” are - and how they compare?}ministerio publico owing to bay so far also of stroba the abogadonan make one good defence, door of exigi for her office of advocate representa only one of the rumannan kalpoe. this siendo cu the office during 2 year y mey always owing to prepara his self good y have conocimento of all aspecto of the caso.
according wix, past owing to ask about fiscal parent hans mos, dicon they wanted separa the defence for of another, after cu in 2 year y mey not was have problem.
mos not can owing to contesta this y according wix the unique motibo cu the can think then is cu they wanted make this, because defence of the office of kock y wix, was much exitoso cu defence of the sospechosonan.
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Kock's Presser. Mostly about how he's only representing Satish right now, but suing (?) to represent both brothers. den caso Holloway:
segun David Kock, TA COMO SI FUERA MINISTERIO PUBLICO
A DJIS SACUDI E FILE Y BISA AWOR CU E TA NOBO
ORANJESTAD(AAN): Dialuna oficina di abogadonan David Kock y Ronnie Wix a duna un conferencia di prensa, relaciona cu e caso di Natalee Holloway.David Kock kende tabata representa Deepak y Satish Kalpoe y awor ta representa solamente Satish Kalpoe, a splica cu su oficina a yama e conferencia di prensa, pa duna nan banda di medaya.
Segun mr. Kock, el a ripara cu Ministerio Publico e biaha aki tin un sistema di traha, contrario na biaha pasa.Casi diariamente bo ta wak nan den prensa incluyendo prensa internacional, dunando splicacion amplio, teniendo nan constantemente na altura di tur desaroyo den e caso aki.
Esaki ta nifica cu ta un banda so ta wordo ilustra.Esaki segun Kock, kende a sigui bisa cu pesey ta importante pa contra-aresta e tendencia nobo aki di O.M.
Kock a splica cu e decision di Ministerio Publico di no permiti oficina di Kock y Wix representa tanto Satish y Deepak, ta cu nan lo por coordina informacion entre e dos rumannan.Segun abogado Kock, esaki ta infunda, cu despues di 2 aña y mey, e oficina no por representa tur dos sospechoso.
Kock a sigui bisa cu esaki no ta na su lugar, pero e mester respeta e decision ey.El a bisa tambe cu e ta spera cu despues di 8 dia di detencion, e medida aki lo wordo kita, pasobra formalmente ainda e ta representa e rumannan.
Abogado Kock a bisa tambe cu algun tempo pasa su oficina a cuminza un caso, pa sea cita su clientenan pa un caso bin dilanti, of declara cu nan no ta sospechoso mas.Kock a splica cu el a cuminza e caso, pa e kita e spada cu ta colga riba cabez di su clientenan.
Na dado momento mester bin un fin na e caso, mescos cu e casonan rond di mundo cu ta wordo cera, ora no por soluciona esaki.Ta straño cu diripiente awor a bin un buelta nobo, unda cu supuestamente tin cosnan nobo den e caso aki cu a wordo presenta, pa hustifica un detencion.
Esaki segun Kock, kende a mustra cu ta 12 pagina so tin di supuesto evidencia nobo, despues cu tanto tempo y placa a wordo inverti den e investigacion.
E documentonan aki ta representa practicamente relatonan di interogacionnan cu a tuma lugar caba. E team di investigador nobo a pasa over di peliculanan cu nan a graba, ora cu e sospechosonan a wordo interoga y a haya importante pa bay skirbi un par di cos extra.
Si bo wak e bon, investigadornan a faya den esaki, pasobra cu e tempo ey nan no a haya importante of necesario pa skirbi cierto pasahe di e declaracionnan den e rapport, anto awor nan kier considera esaki como nobo.
Esaki segun Kock, kende a sigui bisa cu fuera di e hecho cu e supuesto informacion nobo no ta implica nada negativo pa su cliente, ta djis como si fuera nan a sacudi e file di nobo, tire atrobe riba mesa y bisa cu awor e ta nobo.
Nobo no ta cu bo ta califica esaki como tal, sino e mester ta nobo di berdad, pa bo por bay asina leu di kita libertad di hende y no djis pasobra abo a dicidi cu e ta nobo.Esaki ta inaceptable segun nos sistema legal segun Kock, kende a sigui bisa cu pesey su oficina ta tumando tur paso ora esaki ta posibel.
Problema ta cu den comienzo di investigacion den un caso, ley ta duna Ministerio Publico hopi instrumento y posibilidad di hasi hopi cos.Bo tin cu respeta y biba cu e leynan aki, pero ta importante pa duna e splicacion, pasobra ta wordo hasi como si fuera cu nan a haya e “prueba reina”, pa mustra cu e sospechosonan ta culpable.
Esaki segun abogado Kock, kende a bisa cu su clientenan ta keda para riba nan inocencia. E accion aki di parti di Ministerio Publico ta un accion di desesperacion, cu ta totalmente for di sla y no na su lugar.
Ministerio Publico ta bayendo mucho leu cu e caso aki, pasobra no ta cueste loke cueste un hende mester colga.
Online Pap translation:
in caso holloway:
according david kock, is because;
if fuera ministerio publico
owing to immidiately sacudi the file y tell now cu the
is new oranjestad(aan): monday office of abogadonan david kock y ronnie wix owing to give one
conferencia of prensa, relaciona cu the caso of natalee holloway.
david kock that was representa deepak y satish kalpoe y now is representa only satish kalpoe, owing to splica cu his office owing to calling the conferencia of prensa, for give they near of medaya.
according mr. kock, past owing to ripara cu ministerio publico the trip here have one sistema of work, contrario at trip happen.casi daily do you looking at they in prensa incluyendo prensa internacional, dunando splicacion amplio, teniendo they constantemente at height of all desaroyo in the caso here.
this is nifica cu is one near only is wordo ilustra.esaki according kock, that owing to follow tell cu pesey is important for contra-aresta the tendencia new here of or.m.
kock owing to splica cu the decision of ministerio publico of not permiti office of kock y wix representa tanto satish y deepak, is cu they will can coordina informacion among the two rumannan.segun advocate kock, this is infunda, cu after of 2 year y mey, the office not can representa all two sospechoso.
kock owing to follow tell cu this do not at his lugar, but the have to respeta the decision ey.el owing to tell also cu the is wait for cu after of 8 day of detencion, the medida here will wordo less, because formalmente still the is representa the rumannan.
advocate kock owing to tell also cu some time happen his office owing to cuminza one caso, for as cita his clientenan for one caso come fast, or declara cu they do not sospechoso more.kock owing to splica cu past owing to cuminza the caso, for her less the spada cu is colga on cabez of his clientenan.
at dado instant have to come one end at the caso, same cu the casonan rond of world cu is wordo close, hour not can soluciona this.ta odd cu diripiente now owing to come one buelta new, where cu supuestamente have cosnan new in the caso here cu owing to wordo present, for hustifica one detencion.
this according kock, that owing to show cu is 12 pagina only have of supuesto evidencia new, after cu tanto time y coin owing to wordo inverti in the investigacion.
the documentonan here is representa practicamente relatonan of interogacionnan cu did take lugar end. the team of investigador new owing to happen over of peliculanan cu they owing to graba, hour cu the sospechosonan owing to wordo interoga y owing to achieve important for bay write one pair of cos extra.
if do you look at the good, investigadornan owing to abort in this, because cu the time ey they not owing to achieve important or necesario for write cierto pasahe of the declaracionnan in the rapport, then now they wanted considera this because; new.
this according kock, that owing to follow tell cu fuera of the mature cu the supuesto informacion new do not implica nothing negative for his cliente, is immidiately because; if fuera they owing to sacudi the file of new, tire again on table y tell cu now the is new.
new do not cu are you califica this because; such, but the have to is new of berdad, for could you bay so far of less freedom of person y not immidiately because you owing to dicidi cu the is new.esaki is inaceptable according we sistema legal according kock, that owing to follow tell cu pesey his office is tumando all pace hour this is possible.
problem is cu in comienzo of investigacion in one caso, ley is give ministerio publico much instrumento y posibilidad of make much cos.bo have cu respeta y live cu the leynan here, but is important for give the splicacion, because is wordo make because; if fuera cu they owing to achieve the “prueba reina”, for show cu the sospechosonan is culpable.
this according advocate kock, that owing to tell cu his clientenan is stay stop on they inocencia. the accion here of part of ministerio publico is one accion of desesperacion, cu is totalmente for of sla y not at his lugar.
ministerio publico is bayendo mucho far cu the caso here, because do not cueste thing cueste a have to colga.
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