Natalee Case Discussion #695 11/27/2007

[SunnyinTX]

Just two quick posts from RU. Does Joran look happy and excited to be going back to Aruba? LOL! 


resigned  PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:00 pm         

He looks happy to be headed back to Aruba.

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Beth should be arrested
Arubalover Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:05 am   

Oh how I would love to see that smile wiped off her face and her in handcuffs going off to an Aruban jail.....for another 8 days....over and over again. She deserves to stay in jail there a lot longer than those poor boys were in there. She deserves to be interrogated and beaten. 

oh yea...he looks delighted!! NOT!!   arubalover is a fuxxing assbite....

[Lala'sMom]

Sunny,

Deepak will be surprised at how simple it was, lol!

Yes, that would be fairly easy to get IMO but it would nail them to the wall for sure.

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I would LOVE if Mos can somehow use Jamie's tape....the REAL one....Skeeter deserves it to be known that he was telling the truth and the other tape was in fact tampered with.....

And THAT could well be the basis for an investigation into ALE and their evidence-destroying ways.

But will be a separate investigation and issue and trial.  They will never lump it all together much as we might like that to happen.

For the last few months, I have been saying my cast of suspects shrunk and it has.  I think Mos may have the ones guilty of what happened to Natalee with the exception of Paulus as accomplice or accessory.  He still needs to go down but Mos is saying Paulus in the interviews so bet Paulus is sweating like anything.

If there was help disposing of her remains, they need to be charged but abuse of a corpse or something along those lines is not a major crime in the eyes of the law usually because the person is already deceased.

Nail the main ones and deal with the peripherals later.

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Maybe the peripherals have already been dealt with. 

[klaasend]

November 27, 2007 GMA

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XWwFu7hBcEM

Thanks for the link *******.  Wonder if these are new shots of the K2's?  From the video:

[Puzzler]

This mention of Freddy's name upon re-reading of the policecar transcript is very strange. It certainly isn't any indication that Freddy is clean and innocent mentioned in such a way. Wonder if it is him to be charged next?
>>>>snip
Deepak:  How does it feel Joran?
Joran: (with raised voice) You let my father be arrested, friend.
Deepak: (very calm) That's what I say. How does it feel?
Joran: You know no good that my father has nothing to do [with this}. I have read your statements, friend. You two are lying shit.  (then very calmly) You know what happened with that girl. If you don't know it, then nothing happened. (then angrily) So, fxxx you. What do you say, that Freddy has to be arrested?
Deepak: That Freddy has to tell the truth.
Joran: You know very well that Freddy has told the truth.
Satish: You will see, you will see.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=95.0

That's what I thought too - Freddy needs to tell the truth - it's chilling to read it again. 

Another thought - some of the transcript indicates "not clear" - maybe the Dutch have some how gotten a clearer version of what was said.

[Port Valerie]

They look a lot older, if those are indeed the Kalpoes.

[SunnyinTX]

Crime journalist John van der Heuvel about the Holloway case in a programm, right now in the Netherlands. www.EO.nl/hetelfdeuur

Please tell us what is said

[klaasend]

REMINDER 



Also 

[NYC_lover]

Crime journalist John van der Heuvel about the Holloway case in a programm, right now in the Netherlands. www.EO.nl/hetelfdeuur

Please tell us what is said

Sure I want, this programm is still during 25 minutes. And John has make still no words. I am still waiting of the words from John.

[Tylergal]

Remember Simian?  Yes, the inside ALE, Simian...he knew and had access to some info...maybe they will revisit it again also...


Simian Says: June 23rd, 2005 at 2:56 pm
There is a gap in the stories between father and son.
Simian Says: June 23rd, 2005 at 3:03 pm
The gap is in the timeline. Phone records. Log-on times on PC’s.
Simian Says: June 23rd, 2005 at 3:05 pm
If you were asleep who answered your phone?
Simian Says: June 23rd, 2005 at 3:09 pm
You can’t remember answering a phone call at 2:00 in the morning? When the next day your son was picked up?

Simian Says: June 23rd, 2005 at 3:03 pm
The gap is in the timeline. Phone records. Log-on times on PC’s.


Aha!! Chalk one up for the Simian.  We've now heard that the time on the computer in the Kalpoe home was wrong and had to be adjusted.  Part of the old evidence being looked at in a new way. 

I've got eight computers in my office. One is a day and half clock time off. None of others have the same time showing. I would tend to think the J2K's have not sync their computers to each other or to their phones. I bet that all of us have slightly different times on our computer clocks. That being said I'm not sure the slight differences would effect the time line unless the clocks of J2K computers are way off.

You just made me remember that we have just that same thing here in our home.  The time on the cable box says 3:12pm but this old computer says 3:06pm....the computer time can be off by 30 minutes after a while.  Not sure why, but it does happen, and then we reset it. 

I have one computer that is always 5 minutes ahead of everything in my house on Monday and by Friday, it is same time, but over the weekend, it gains time. 

[Tylergal]

If Paulus goes down, one of the co-conspirators will also have to go. Whom did he exercise his influence ON? For the good of the team (Aruba) , at least these two will have to go down also, along with the three juveniles. I doubt that Holland wants to dismember ALL of Aruban authorities. It is necessary though to acknowledge that there was some corruption and then perhaps claim that they have now cleaned it up.

Maybe that's what they're waiting for. Whom will Paulus bring in with him?

(AZ Lady, I know you are an English teacher. Thus I said whom, not who, which would be more normal, if you ask me.)

On whom did he exercise his influence? Not AZ Lady, but English major nonetheless.

[SunnyinTX]

November 27, 2007 GMA

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XWwFu7hBcEM

Thanks for the link *******.  Wonder if these are new shots of the K2's?  From the video:

thanks ******* and Klaas wow...they look awful......I think they are new photos....JMO......

[SunnyinTX]

Crime journalist John van der Heuvel about the Holloway case in a programm, right now in the Netherlands. www.EO.nl/hetelfdeuur

Please tell us what is said

Sure I want, this programm is still during 25 minutes. And John has make still no words. I am still waiting of the words from John.

okey dokey!!

[klaasend]

Satish looks just like a senior in HS, lololol   NOT   

[Magnolia]

Klass, here is a link to the Birmingham Channel.  There is video, but you know I can't do things with video....I can barely type.

http://www.abc3340.com/news/stories/1107/475612.html

[Kiwi]

This mention of Freddy's name upon re-reading of the policecar transcript is very strange. It certainly isn't any indication that Freddy is clean and innocent mentioned in such a way. Wonder if it is him to be charged next?
>>>>snip
Deepak:  How does it feel Joran?
Joran: (with raised voice) You let my father be arrested, friend.
Deepak: (very calm) That's what I say. How does it feel?
Joran: You know no good that my father has nothing to do [with this}. I have read your statements, friend. You two are lying shit.  (then very calmly) You know what happened with that girl. If you don't know it, then nothing happened. (then angrily) So, fxxx you. What do you say, that Freddy has to be arrested?
Deepak: That Freddy has to tell the truth.
Joran: You know very well that Freddy has told the truth.
Satish: You will see, you will see.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=95.0

That's what I thought too - Freddy needs to tell the truth - it's chilling to read it again. 

Another thought - some of the transcript indicates "not clear" - maybe the Dutch have some how gotten a clearer version of what was said.

So why would Joran be allowed to read 2K's statements prior to being charged with anything? Should someone be losing their job by giving this to Joran?
Tylergal- Your computer has a rechargable battery that runs the clock when off. Probably time to change it.

[Katysmom]

Just two quick posts from RU. Does Joran look happy and excited to be going back to Aruba? LOL! 


resigned  PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:00 pm         

He looks happy to be headed back to Aruba.

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Beth should be arrested
Arubalover Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:05 am   

Oh how I would love to see that smile wiped off her face and her in handcuffs going off to an Aruban jail.....for another 8 days....over and over again. She deserves to stay in jail there a lot longer than those poor boys were in there. She deserves to be interrogated and beaten. 

oh yea...he looks delighted!! NOT!!   arubalover is a fuxxing assbite....

Evidentley, no one has told Arubalover yet that the "blame the victim" game is over

[msmarple]

Just FYI, a couple of other things happening on Aruba, per 24ora ...

* A group of tourists from Venezuela got stuck, I *think* Monday night, at the airport; some problem with their return flight to Venezuela. They don't have the $$ for additional night(s) of accommodation.

* A lot of rain, Saturday night through yesterday, causing flooding.

[klaasend]

Klass, here is a link to the Birmingham Channel.  There is video, but you know I can't do things with video....I can barely type.

http://www.abc3340.com/news/stories/1107/475612.html

Yeah, that's the video I watched this morning but I think the clip of Joran getting out of a police van is from 2005.

[SunnyinTX]

Klass, here is a link to the Birmingham Channel.  There is video, but you know I can't do things with video....I can barely type.

http://www.abc3340.com/news/stories/1107/475612.html

thanks Magnolia...poor deepak is on antidepressants and satish has to go to night school ......makes me so sad....my ass!  Natalee had dreams and plans for her life...they took that from her....they took her..may they all rot in hell...here on earth and in the afterlife...

[Port Valerie]

On whom did he exercise his influence? Not AZ Lady, but English major nonetheless.

Even better.