Natalee Case Discussion #697 11/29 - 11/30/2007

[2NJSons_Mom]

This was the latest report:
It is the Kalpoe lawyers that said one or both of them may be
released.  The judge has until 4:30 tomorrow to make that decision.
The reporter says that things have suddenly gotten confusing.
Kalpoe lawyers are talking.
Mos has been quiet since yesterday.  Mos has a PR person!
Mos may make a statement later today.
Reporter has no idea why the news conference was canceled.

WTF!!
first we were told Thurs, then Fri and now tomorrow???

What are they waiting for the bank to transfer the funds into judges account??

Aren't Dave & Beth expected there, tomorrow?  Just a thought, and I hope that if this factors in, it's staged on a positive note.

[klaasend]

This was the latest report:
It is the Kalpoe lawyers that said one or both of them may be
released.  The judge has until 4:30 tomorrow to make that decision.
The reporter says that things have suddenly gotten confusing.
Kalpoe lawyers are talking.
Mos has been quiet since yesterday.  Mos has a PR person!
Mos may make a statement later today.
Reporter has no idea why the news conference was canceled.

Like I said, what would you expect the defense attorneys to say?

[Buckeye]

I always had the feeling that Paulus had convinced Deepak that given his "adult" status (age) and being the official owner of the car, that he would be more responsible for having drugs, alcohol, underaged passengers and whatever transpired than even the perpetrator himself, and had coerced Deepak into believing that he and Joran were his last great white hope.  I am of the opinion and I am probably 180 degrees from right, that Deepak was home and he was called upon to make some calls, possibly to Steve Croes and to those "automotive enterprising" people.

Anita "there were adults there"....the twisting of the knife into the Kalpoes.

[Nut44x4]

O/T Klaas...Jef Bryant in missing has been located-safe. Could you mark the subject line please, when you get a minute. TY   

[Lala'sMom]

This was the latest report:
It is the Kalpoe lawyers that said one or both of them may be
released.  The judge has until 4:30 tomorrow to make that decision.
The reporter says that things have suddenly gotten confusing.
Kalpoe lawyers are talking.
Mos has been quiet since yesterday.  Mos has a PR person!
Mos may make a statement later today.
Reporter has no idea why the news conference was canceled.

Guys, that sinking feeling is coming back again...I think I am going to be sick...I have to leave this for a while.

[SunnyinTX]

This was the latest report:
It is the Kalpoe lawyers that said one or both of them may be
released.  The judge has until 4:30 tomorrow to make that decision.
The reporter says that things have suddenly gotten confusing.
Kalpoe lawyers are talking.
Mos has been quiet since yesterday.  Mos has a PR person!
Mos may make a statement later today.
Reporter has no idea why the news conference was canceled.

WTF!!


first we were told Thurs, then Fri and now tomorrow???

What are they waiting for the bank to transfer the funds into judges account??

I thought judges didn't work on weekends. What is this?

i have and will continue to be optomistic...but this is starting to feel a little like de ja vous.....it's scary ...these judges

[Tylergal]

This was the latest report:
It is the Kalpoe lawyers that said one or both of them may be
released.  The judge has until 4:30 tomorrow to make that decision.
The reporter says that things have suddenly gotten confusing.
Kalpoe lawyers are talking.
Mos has been quiet since yesterday.  Mos has a PR person!
Mos may make a statement later today.
Reporter has no idea why the news conference was canceled.

CRAP! 

Mohs has gotten quiet, canceled a conference, K2 lawyers talking, Joe Tacopino has been talking nonstop for more than a week; maybe Mos is researching the rules on how he can have an American lawyer arrested who is still on sovereign waters, but who is receiving information from local attorneys who are under gag order.  Maybe he is calling the state department, maybe he is calling the Netherlands, maybe he is just doing this to irritate Paulus, which I suspect is most probable.

[SunnyinTX]

If someone turns on another and that person is released....I sure hope they are released into protective custody. If not, we will see yet another suicide by hanging w/ one hand in pocket.

at this point, i think that could be considered partial justice

I understand

[Tylergal]

I need to eat something.  I meant to say someone in sovereign country.

[SunnyinTX]

O/T Klaas...Jef Bryant in missing has been located-safe. Could you mark the subject line please, when you get a minute. TY   

thanks for the GOOD NEWS

[Magnolia]

Magnolia, thanks for the news updates....not sure I like what I'm reading, though.

I don't like it either, but that is what was reported.  The reporter was live at the
Aruba courthouse.

[BTgirl]

Mark 9:23 And Jesus said to him, "'If You can?' All things are possible to him who believes."

Mark 11:23 "Truly I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, 'Be taken up and cast into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what he says is going to happen, it will be granted him."

Have faith, monkeys. 

[SunnyinTX]

This was the latest report:
It is the Kalpoe lawyers that said one or both of them may be
released.  The judge has until 4:30 tomorrow to make that decision.
The reporter says that things have suddenly gotten confusing.
Kalpoe lawyers are talking.
Mos has been quiet since yesterday.  Mos has a PR person!
Mos may make a statement later today.
Reporter has no idea why the news conference was canceled.

CRAP! 

Mohs has gotten quiet, canceled a conference, K2 lawyers talking, Joe Tacopino has been talking nonstop for more than a week; maybe Mos is researching the rules on how he can have an American lawyer arrested who is still on sovereign waters, but who is receiving information from local attorneys who are under gag order.  Maybe he is calling the state department, maybe he is calling the Netherlands, maybe he is just doing this to irritate Paulus, which I suspect is most probable.

too many damn maybe's for me....   I am going to go meet friends for lunch.....TTYL

[Tylergal]

This was the latest report:
It is the Kalpoe lawyers that said one or both of them may be
released.  The judge has until 4:30 tomorrow to make that decision.
The reporter says that things have suddenly gotten confusing.
Kalpoe lawyers are talking.
Mos has been quiet since yesterday.  Mos has a PR person!
Mos may make a statement later today.
Reporter has no idea why the news conference was canceled.

Guys, that sinking feeling is coming back again...I think I am going to be sick...I have to leave this for a while.

Lala's, I just had a pack of cheese crackers and I still am misspelling words like crazy.  I am going to have some chocolate ice cream.  Grab something you love to eat, like chocolate, and sit back.  This is going to be a bumpy ride, but we are going to land on our feet, I do believe.  He promised me if I have faith the size of a small tiny mustard seed, all I need to do is ask with that faith.  I have asked.  He says there is strength in numbers.  We are all a number but collectively we are a large voice.  Eat a snack, say a prayer, restore your faith and sit back and enjoy the ride albeit bumpy but in the end, it will be such a sweet victory.

[Tylergal]

Mark 9:23 And Jesus said to him, "'If You can?' All things are possible to him who believes."

Mark 11:23 "Truly I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, 'Be taken up and cast into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what he says is going to happen, it will be granted him."

Have faith, monkeys. 

Amen, BT.  Amen.

[klaasend]

This was the latest report:
It is the Kalpoe lawyers that said one or both of them may be
released.  The judge has until 4:30 tomorrow to make that decision.
The reporter says that things have suddenly gotten confusing.
Kalpoe lawyers are talking.
Mos has been quiet since yesterday.  Mos has a PR person!
Mos may make a statement later today.
Reporter has no idea why the news conference was canceled.

Like I said, what would you expect the defense attorneys to say?

This is nothing new.  The Kalpoes attorneys have been saying this all along.  JoeT said that about Joran when he arrived in Aruba and JoeT was WRONG.  Do not listen to the defense attorneys!

[Sue]

Have we heard If JQK will go to Aruba also?
and  Did Mos invite Dave and Beth down to Aruba to talk
or did they just make decision to go with all the
all the hearings going on?

[klaasend]

Have we heard If JQK will go to Aruba also?
and  Did Mos invite Dave and Beth down to Aruba to talk
or did they just make decision to go with all the
all the hearings going on?

I have no idea

[Magnolia]

Mark 9:23 And Jesus said to him, "'If You can?' All things are possible to him who believes."

Mark 11:23 "Truly I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, 'Be taken up and cast into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what he says is going to happen, it will be granted him."

Have faith, monkeys. 

I have been thinking for two days:   "If you have faith as a mustard seed,
nothing is impossible to you."

[GabbyG]

ldstlou - that would also explain why no one has cracked about the location of the body...they may not know. Paulus may not even know if he called someone to "take care of it" That way, they could all pass lie detector tests regarding whether she is alive, and whether or not they know where the body is.....    interesting.

I agree, but I still tend to think paulus was in on hiding Natalee.  The creep was on top of everything from moment one....already thinking of alibis and interogations! He has a criminal mind!! He would have wanted as few people involved as possible, and he would have wanted complete control. He would have had to have known for himself that Natalee was some place where she would never be found to implicate his boy!!

I believe that Paulus was INSTRUMENTAL in hiding Natalee.  J2K were too nervous, too young, too uneducated to carry off something a major as this and to have been undiscovered so long.   This took PLANNING, by a person EDUCATED IN THE LAW to know all the bases that had to be covered.  We get impressions throughout that Paulus coached and directed these three on what to do and say.  Paulus is in this very deep.
Mos knows it.  We heard Mos say that the father is involved one way or another.  To me, that means that Paulus is involved...period.

That is not my point..we all KNOW that Paulus is guilty of helping get rid of Natalee...we all KNOW that she was assaulted by, at the least, Joran and most likley all of the perps....we all KNOW more than the majority of every other human being on the face of the earth what happened to Natalee besides those that did this to her...just KNOWING does not make it happen.  I think if there was really good evidence out there those defense attorneys would be quiet as church mice...KNOWING that their clients are screwed to hell. They would be running down the back channels in order to make a deal with the prosecution. Instead we have Joe T. going nuts all the time...he knows what his limits are and he walks that fine line, but he doesn't cross it...the Kalpoe attorneys just saying things like it's nothing, there is nothing new...it's all old stuff.  Now, we hear the problem could be in the interpretation...heck we have even had that same problem on here trying to decide what someone meant as opposed to what they actually said after translations. The longer this continues, the more antsy I become and the less likely for a good resolution.  Mos doesn't want it to end this way...it just will, because the perfect crime may just have been committed with the aid of ALE and the inept Dutch.  I so want to be wrong...I would love nothing better than to say you guys are right and Robots really, really was right all along. Sorry, to be the lone voice crying in the wilderness today...I will slink back to the corner and be quiet.

no need to slink 
your opinions and thoughts are reasonable because of the BULLCRAP put on by the ALE
and others

Mos is the Boss

he has paulus in the cross hairs

the hammer is cocked

he is about to pull the trigger

 

I LOVE your new saying robots!!  Mos IS the Boss!!!

Everything will be okay, mos has it under control. He just cant let everything out so soon, all at the same time, it could damage the case he has built against j2k and pvds, and probably others too giving them all he knows so soon. I also think he KNOWS that Tim, Mr. Shaefer and The Perseverence WILL find Natalee's body, which may be what he is trying to hold out for, because that will be the icing on the cake. At that time it will all be over but the paperwork. I feel very safe in believing this. Have faith! At this point we will be disappointed anyway if it doesnt work out, so why not think positive and give Mr Mos credit for going the distance. If he doesnt then we can be disappointed THEN, but no need to yet. This really is a battle of the good against the bad, and I totally believe this time good is gonna win. I think we should be hunting for our pom poms so we can cheer Mr. Mos and the crew of The Perseverence soon!!