Natalee Case Discussion #698 11/30/2007

[MuffyBee]

Here's to refresh some memories...

May 23, 2006 9:27 am US/Eastern

Holloway Suspect Released From Detention
Casino Worker Was Detained In Connection With Teen's 2005 Disappearance
 AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (CBS News) ― A man arrested in the disappearance of an American teenager on the Dutch Caribbean island of Aruba was released from custody Tuesday, a court official said.

The release of the suspect, who CBS News has reported is Guido Wever, means he will not be transferred to Aruba, said the court official, Martine de Bruijn. His lawyer, Gerard Sprong, told Dutch television there was not enough evidence to hold his client.

A spokesman for the Dutch national prosecutor's office declined to comment, saying the case was in the hands of the Aruban public prosecutor.

The suspect was arrested last Wednesday in the town of Utrecht. He was a croupier at the casino in the Holiday Inn hotel where American Natalee Holloway was staying when she disappeared a year ago during a high school graduation trip to Aruba.

In an interview with Dutch NOS television Sunday, Spong said Aruban authorities suspected his client of "assisting in the murder, battery and kidnapping of Natalee Holloway."

"He is in good health and he is willing to cooperate with judicial authorities of Aruba in finding the truth of the disappearance of Natalee Holoway," Spong said.

Spong previously told CBS News that his client is "completely innocent" and has never seen Holloway.

Weaver's parents said in a statement that their son was "innocent until proven guilty," and they "cannot believe that he could have anything to do with the case."

They also said in a statement, "not only as parents but also as human beings we are appalled that a young girl is missing for a long time. And we sincerely hope and pray despite all odds that she will come back alive. We think that our country Aruba has made a tremendous effort so far to find her."

Holloway, of Mountain Brook, Ala., was 18 when she disappeared. She was last seen leaving a bar with three young men on May 30, 2005, the last night of her trip to Aruba.

Spong said his client is a friend of Joran van der Sloot, the last person known to have seen Holloway alive. Van der Sloot says he left Holloway alone on a beach after they kissed.

Holloway's parents are attempting to sue Van der Sloot, 18, in a New York court. Their suit alleges he imprisoned and sexually assaulted Holloway, and caused her disappearance.

While Aruban authorities are keeping all options open, they believe Holloway is most likely dead and buried on the island. Police in Aruba say prevailing currents would have likely washed her body ashore if she drowned or her body was thrown into the sea.

In January, Aruban police searched sand dunes on the northwest coast of the island. Dutch marines, the Aruban coast guard, the FBI and hundreds of volunteers have also searched the island and coastal areas for Holloway.

Authorities have arrested eight people including van der Sloot in Holloway's disappearance and released them for lack of evidence. The latest suspect was questioned three times in Aruba shortly after Holloway's disappearance and twice later by Dutch authorities, Spong said.

Holloway's mother, Beth Twitty, commented Monday in Alabama on reports of Weaver's detention and questioning by police.

"It doesn't look like to me it's excluding the original three suspects, but only widening the circle of the suspects involved in Natalee's disappearance," said Twitty.
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[Puzzler]

jealous lover

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[blah]

This winter, take some time away from work and come to Aruba!
 
We have a number of direct flights from Curacao for your convenience:


And if you survived the flight here you can jump right into your next adventure on our wonderful highways







You can even take a boat adventure


down our wonderful streets


just be careful a hurricane



Does not blow you off course



Be sure to get yourself a little pick-me-up from one of our many government sponsored crack houses on the island:








you can even get yourself a gun


or 2


and head out to take in some of the local wildlife



Once back at your room


enjoy the wonderful view of the streets below


(just be careful who you talk to)



our top notch law enforcement will ensure you a safe stay


thanks for comming and have a safe journey home

[Tylergal]

I apologize for that tacky post, but I hate those 2 women no matter how hard I pray about it

I am the same way, so no need to apologize.  I have definitely had to pray about my feelings toward them.  I don't often find anyone/anything so despicable that I need to pray about it, but I have definitely had to do that of late. 

I try to keep the faith that there is so much good in the worst of them and so much bad in the best of us.  Then I pray that I can remember this and abide it.

[Tylergal]

This winter, take some time away from work and come to Aruba!
 
We have a number of direct flights from Curacao for your convenience:


And if you survived the flight here you can jump right into your next adventure on our wonderful highways







You can even take a boat adventure


down our wonderful streets


just be careful a hurricane



Does not blow you off course



Be sure to get yourself a little pick-me-up from one of our many government sponsored crack houses on the island:








you can even get yourself a gun


or 2


and head out to take in some of the local wildlife



Once back at your room


enjoy the wonderful view of the streets below


(just be careful who you talk to)



our top notch law enforcement will ensure you a safe stay


thanks for comming and have a safe journey home

 

LMAO.

[KarmaRoundUp]

Posted by Glenda at RU:

Glenda Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 2:06 pm   
Beth spends 6 hours with OM

Word on the street, she was being questioned for six hours. Dave and JQK also there. 


English translation:  Hans Mos spent 6 hours with Beth, Dave and JQK going over the case against JK2 & P

LOL!
I like this translation.

[Observer]

That picture of the dog really offends me and makes me angry. But I guess it's no different than how Aruba treats Tourists who are victims of a crime.

[Observer]

Challenge to Simian!!  Yoo hoo!  Answer me this....just once, please.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 4:56 pm
The 5th suspect has an alibi so strong that he has everybody baffled.


Who is the 5th suspect???  Email me at cindoal@yahoo.com.  If you are still around and have the guts to spit it out this time...email me...I want to know.

There ya go Lala!! I hope he has the balls to write ya back 

[Altruist]

O/T Stacy Peterson case.
Am I losing my mind or my hearing?  I thought Mark Furhman started his report by saying that 2 men entered the donut shop, sat down at the table and neither one left the table until they both got up and walked out.  Later, he changed his story to say that there is a part of the tape where there is one man sitting at the table.   Did anyone hear the same thing?   

Yes I heard that.  Then Greta specifically asked him if one got up and walked away and he said yes.

Hi there, have just started reading & wanted to address this in case nobody else caught the whole segment:

According to Furnham Peterson's stepbrother said that Peterson did a weird thing while they were both at the coffee shop.  Peterson took his cell phone out & placed it on the table, told the stepbrother not to answer the phone & then Peterson left the coffee shop.  While the stepbrother was sitting there alone at the table in the coffee shop, Peterson's cell phone rang & when the stepbrother looked at it on the display was Stacy's name & #.  Then Peterson returned to the coffee shop & they left together the coffee shop after 9 PM. 

Today I heard a blurp that they then went to Peterson's house & removed a blue container from Peterson's residence that Peterson paid his stepbrother to help him do.

[Tylergal]

Challenge to Simian!!  Yoo hoo!  Answer me this....just once, please.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 4:56 pm
The 5th suspect has an alibi so strong that he has everybody baffled.


Who is the 5th suspect???  Email me at cindoal@yahoo.com.  If you are still around and have the guts to spit it out this time...email me...I want to know.

There ya go Lala!! I hope he has the balls to write ya back 

"She...."

[Lala'sMom]

Challenge to Simian!!  Yoo hoo!  Answer me this....just once, please.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 4:56 pm
The 5th suspect has an alibi so strong that he has everybody baffled.


Who is the 5th suspect???  Email me at cindoal@yahoo.com.  If you are still around and have the guts to spit it out this time...email me...I want to know.

There ya go Lala!! I hope he has the balls to write ya back 

If he is who I think...he can do this and no one will be the wiser. 

[MuffyBee]

O/T Stacy Peterson case.
Am I losing my mind or my hearing?  I thought Mark Furhman started his report by saying that 2 men entered the donut shop, sat down at the table and neither one left the table until they both got up and walked out.  Later, he changed his story to say that there is a part of the tape where there is one man sitting at the table.   Did anyone hear the same thing?   

Yes I heard that.  Then Greta specifically asked him if one got up and walked away and he said yes.

Hi there, have just started reading & wanted to address this in case nobody else caught the whole segment:

According to Furnham Peterson's stepbrother said that Peterson did a weird thing while they were both at the coffee shop.  Peterson took his cell phone out & placed it on the table, told the stepbrother not to answer the phone & then Peterson left the coffee shop.  While the stepbrother was sitting there alone at the table in the coffee shop, Peterson's cell phone rang & when the stepbrother looked at it on the display was Stacy's name & #.  Then Peterson returned to the coffee shop & they left together the coffee shop after 9 PM. 

Today I heard a blurp that they then went to Peterson's house & removed a blue container from Peterson's residence that Peterson paid his stepbrother to help him do.

We are on the Natalee Holloway thread, but I will briefly answer.  Peterson could have just left the phone in a shirt or jacket on SILENT and told the stepbrother he would be right back.  Then, there would be none of the "don't answer" thing to call to question.  That's just weird, imo.

[Nut44x4]

That picture of the dog really offends me and makes me angry. But I guses it's no different than how Aruba treats Tourists who are victims.

That is horrible!! I agree...I when I first saw it at the site
But BLAH.....that was a very funny post!!!!!!!

[wreck]

That picture of the dog really offends me and makes me angry. But I guess it's no different than how Aruba treats Tourists who are victims of a crime.

That picture of the dog SICKENS me to no end!! (but, I spit out my coffee when I saw the caption: "check out our wildlife")

[blah]

That picture of the dog really offends me and makes me angry. But I guses it's no different than how Aruba treats Tourists who are victims.

That is horrible!! I agree...I when I first saw it at the site
But BLAH.....that was a very funny post!!!!!!!

the truth of that island is horrible and I think the picture of that dog really shows it.  Not meant to offend anyone, just show the reality of that dump

[MuffyBee]

I hadn't seen this discussed before.  Do you know by whom and when it was made?

http://judicial-inc.biz/Joran_va_der_sloot.htm

[blah]

I hadn't seen this discussed before.  Do you know by whom and when it was made?

http://judicial-inc.biz/Joran_va_der_sloot.htm

I think tht has been around quite a while.  I remember discussion a long time ago about how that photo of the sloots house is photoshopped big time.

[MuffyBee]

I hadn't seen this discussed before.  Do you know by whom and when it was made?

http://judicial-inc.biz/Joran_va_der_sloot.htm

I think tht has been around quite a while.  I remember discussion a long time ago about how that photo of the sloots house is photoshopped big time.

Thanks.  Now I remember, because of the sloot house being photoshopped.  I guess that photo of Deepak hanging kinda grabbed me.  I was just going through stuff on the internet...

[Observer]

That picture of the dog really offends me and makes me angry. But I guses it's no different than how Aruba treats Tourists who are victims.

That is horrible!! I agree...I when I first saw it at the site
But BLAH.....that was a very funny post!!!!!!!

the truth of that island is horrible and I think the picture of that dog really shows it.  Not meant to offend anyone, just show the reality of that dump

So many dogs roam free in Aruba that I am sure they were able to pick and choose when they slaughtered one of them to saturate that mattress with dogs blood. Thats speculation on my part that it was part of the case but I can only imagine the horrible and dispicable acts of people involved that we dont know about yet.

[MuffyBee]

That picture of the dog really offends me and makes me angry. But I guses it's no different than how Aruba treats Tourists who are victims.

That is horrible!! I agree...I when I first saw it at the site
But BLAH.....that was a very funny post!!!!!!!

the truth of that island is horrible and I think the picture of that dog really shows it.  Not meant to offend anyone, just show the reality of that dump

So many dogs roam free in Aruba that I am sure they were able to pick and choose when they slaughtered one of them to saturate that mattress with dogs blood. Thats speculation on my part that it was part of the case but I can only imagine the horrible acts of people involved that we dont know about yet.

That poor dog looked like what some call a "potcake". 
What is a Potcake?

    pot'-cake, noun: an island dog deriving its name from eating the cake (grits or rice) left in the bottom of the pot

I had first heard that term used when I was visiting islands in the Bahamas in the early 1980's.  There is actually a rescue group:
www.potcakefoundation.com/pg1.html  to try to help the mixed breed dogs.