Natalee Case Discussion #699 12/1 - 12/3/2007

[Blue Moon]

Hey Simian!  I am still waiting...I am relentless...if you know any thing get with the program and tell me....Who is the 5th suspect?  Where is he now?  Where was the party?  Why did he need an alibi? 

Yes, I am still waiting...someone that knows Simian needs to tell him I am calling him out.  He can email me at cindoal@yahoo.com.  It's all for you, Simian.  I am waiting.

I am going to throw this out to you and see what you think.  I believe the 5th suspect is Satish.  First and second was the security guards, third was Joran, fourth was Deepak and 5th was Satish. 

[Lala'sMom]

I don't know if this was posted prior but it's video of K2 being released yesterday

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2007/12/01/vo.aruba.kalpoes.released.cnn

It must be good to be a criminal in Aruba you get your own police escort home  .

And with a laugh and a hand shake by a man I persume to be a policeman when Satish enters the car. 

Wonder if he asked for an autograph also?

[San]

I don't know if this was posted prior but it's video of K2 being released yesterday

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2007/12/01/vo.aruba.kalpoes.released.cnn

It must be good to be a criminal in Aruba you get your own police escort home  .

And with a laugh and a hand shake by a man I persume to be a policeman when Satish enters the car. 

I can see them saying to him there was that so bad I told you that you would be taken care of in there.  By the way did you complete our hotel accomodation card we left you on your pillow. 

[Lala'sMom]

Hey Simian!  I am still waiting...I am relentless...if you know any thing get with the program and tell me....Who is the 5th suspect?  Where is he now?  Where was the party?  Why did he need an alibi? 

Yes, I am still waiting...someone that knows Simian needs to tell him I am calling him out.  He can email me at cindoal@yahoo.com.  It's all for you, Simian.  I am waiting.

I am going to throw this out to you and see what you think.  I believe the 5th suspect is Satish.  First and second was the security guards, third was Joran, fourth was Deepak and 5th was Satish. 

Are you asking me?  Nope. The 5th suspect was the so called "boyfriend". The 5th suspect was the host of a "party" of some type. The 5th suspect was known to have talked or had sometype of contact with Natalee earlier in the week (which really wasn't a true week as we think of it). Therefore, Satish doesn't qualify.

[Magnolia]

There was the one time that O'Reilly said that Natalee died of
a drug overdose and his source was an Aruban official
That was when he and Rivera were on together and Rivera
said that Aruba was known for drugs and prostitution.
It created quite an uproar.

[Lala'sMom]

There was the one time that O'Reilly said that Natalee died of
a drug overdose and his source was an Aruban official
That was when he and Rivera were on together and Rivera
said that Aruba was known for drugs and prostitution.
It created quite an uproar.

The truth about that island and those that are involved in all the shady underworld dealings...gambling, prostitution, porn, drugs, money laundering, etc...would truly shock the world as Jug said. If they ever name names...won't happen...they can't take that chance.

[Lala'sMom]

Blue Moon
I am going to ask you a question now... Why did they arrest those particular 2 security guards?  Of all the people they had to choose from, there were more than just these two that worked as security  in that location...why were these two guys chosen?  Anyone have any idea? 

[Magnolia]

Blue Moon
I am going to ask you a question now... Why did they arrest those particular 2 security guards?  Of all the people they had to choose from, there were more than just these two that worked as security  in that location...why were these two guys chosen?  Anyone have any idea? 

I have wondered that myself....I believe they said that those two had been known
to approach tourist before.  Why do you think those two, Lalas?

[Blue Moon]

Blue Moon
I am going to ask you a question now... Why did they arrest those particular 2 security guards?  Of all the people they had to choose from, there were more than just these two that worked as security  in that location...why were these two guys chosen?  Anyone have any idea? 

I believe the 2 security guards were arrested and put in there to help the police to monitor what J2K were blabbing in jail.  JMO but I do believe they could not take a chance of having those boys talking to anyone so they placed the guards (probably paid off to do this) in cells next to them to account for anything they might say.

[Tamikosmom]

I am not sure of the particular Caribbean paper that ran it, but before they were arrested, either of them, they all three said they had had consensual sex with Natalee, and if memory serves, that was also stated to the Mt Brook party.

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I am convinced that Steve Cohen was speaking from a foundation of knowledge when he stated at the conference that there had been an admission from two of the suspects ... admission that they had sex with Natalee Holloway.  Cohen never denied his quoted words in his feeble attempt at a retraction.

Janet

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Steve Cohen
ARUBA TRUTH
December 7, 2005

A coalition of groups announced Friday the appointment of Steve Cohen to act as spokesperson to North American media, in regards to the Natalee Holloway disappearance case.

AHATA and the ATA appointed Cohen to deal with all media relations concerning the case which still commands media coverage in the United States. Mr. Cohen has been part of the Strategic Communications Task Force since its creation in June. He has a full knowledge of the case and is an associate of the Strategic Message Design Group that has served in an advisory capacity to both ATA and AHATA.

The goal of this action is to coordinate the responses of the private and public sectors to North American media.


Steve Cohen
CARIBBEAN VOICE
January 28, 2006

Aruba stays afloat through Natalie Holloway's investigation
By Hazel Heyer

"Anything DNA that is identified to be of Natalee's will allow us to bring a strong case forward against the three boys. We are also getting to finally talk to some of the Alabama teens who left on that plane and did not wait around for interrogation," said Cohen.
Aruba believes it is most important to get a hold of her mental state and most importantly, Natalee's physical state at the time of disappearance. "Two of the boys said they had consensual sex with her. Whether consensual or not, depends on her ability to be conscious and make a choice." said Cohen.


Steve Cohen
ARUBA TRUTH
January 29, 2006

There are concerns about the statements regarding the investigations view of whether or not any of the suspects had consensual sex with Natalee Holloway. It was not my intention to suggest that they had admitted any such actions on the official record.

[Tamikosmom]

Klaas ... the last quote in my post ... the date should be January 29, 2005.  Would you please edit it.

Thank you

Janet

You mean January 29, 2006?

[Lala'sMom]

I know that MJ was released as a suspect...but has AJ ever been given that same courtesy? 

[klaasend]

I know that MJ was released as a suspect...but has AJ ever been given that same courtesy? 

I think it's more than a courtesy, I think you need the money to pay your attorney.  Could be AJ didn't have enough money.

[Lala'sMom]

Blue Moon
I am going to ask you a question now... Why did they arrest those particular 2 security guards?  Of all the people they had to choose from, there were more than just these two that worked as security  in that location...why were these two guys chosen?  Anyone have any idea? 

I have wondered that myself....I believe they said that those two had been known
to approach tourist before.  Why do you think those two, Lalas?

Readign the PV's from both guards is quite interesting.  Yes, they must have been known to approach tourists, in fact, may have even approached some of the MB group...but why were these two out of all the others, that probably also approached tourists, singled out.  None of the 3 perps ever singled them out as being the guard they claimed saw Natalee with. 

[mishy]

WTF?  Is this a joke or am I really this tired....     On his web page is a pdf, by one of our own MOnkeys????  A seemingly more valid advertisement?

http://www.tacopinalaw.com/pdfs/JoeTacopino.GQ.pdf

Are you are referring to the writer of the article in GQ magazine (which is what the PDF is)?  Not sure what you mean by one of our own Monkeys since I know Monkeys by their nicknames  And we don't give out "real life" names here.  I'm sure there is more than one person in the USA with that name.

Klaas and Di...you have mail on this one!!!

WTF? His ostentatious display is embarrassing...Best dressed even? Heck, his shoes don't even match his suit...puh-lease 

[Lala'sMom]

I know that MJ was released as a suspect...but has AJ ever been given that same courtesy? 

I think it's more than a courtesy, I think you need the money to pay your attorney.  Could be AJ didn't have enough money.

Not sure I buy that explanation.  Seems to me that MJ didn't have enough money to pay either.  Let's see how can I say this?  Maybe MJ was a little more vocal abouthis situation and they released him as a suspect and AJ wasn't?

[klaasend]

I know that MJ was released as a suspect...but has AJ ever been given that same courtesy? 

I think it's more than a courtesy, I think you need the money to pay your attorney.  Could be AJ didn't have enough money.

Not sure I buy that explanation.  Seems to me that MJ didn't have enough money to pay either.  Let's see how can I say this?  Maybe MJ was a little more vocal abouthis situation and they released him as a suspect and AJ wasn't?

True.  For all we know though AJ could have been released as a suspect but with little fanfare.

[Tylergal]

There was the one time that O'Reilly said that Natalee died of
a drug overdose and his source was an Aruban official
That was when he and Rivera were on together and Rivera
said that Aruba was known for drugs and prostitution.
It created quite an uproar.

I believe we all surmised based on events and Dompig's statement, that it was in fact, Dompig who was the informant in this case.

[Tylergal]

Blue Moon
I am going to ask you a question now... Why did they arrest those particular 2 security guards?  Of all the people they had to choose from, there were more than just these two that worked as security  in that location...why were these two guys chosen?  Anyone have any idea? 

I have wondered that myself....I believe they said that those two had been known
to approach tourist before.  Why do you think those two, Lalas?

Was it not said that some possessions of Mountain Brook students that were missing from their rooms?

[Tamikosmom]

Klaas ... the last quote in my post ... the date should be January 29, 2005.  Would you please edit it.

Thank you

Janet

You mean January 29, 2006?

Yes and ... thank you.

Klaas ... my first cuppa strong caffeinated Tim Hortons coffee is now in the prcess of warming its way through my system on a cold snowy morning.  In approximately 15 minutes ... the buzz should set in and ... the cobwebs will clear and ... hopefully I will not have to bother you again.   

Have a good Sunday Monkeys.

Janet