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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #699 12/1/2007
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Quote from: klaasend on December 03, 2007, 11:06:12 PM
FWIW - Lazlo appears to believe there is new evidence but that the prosecutor didn't share it with Beth/Dave/JQK.
Like I said a few posts back -- maybe this is JQK's only tactic -- turn up the
HEAT
on MOS. This is the last chance -- be absolutely CERTAIN MOS is committed to saving his own face.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #699 12/1/2007
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Quote from: klaasend on December 03, 2007, 11:06:12 PM
FWIW - Lazlo appears to believe there is new evidence but that the prosecutor didn't share it with Beth/Dave/JQK.
that is possible and yet WHY not share it with them
of all people that have a RIGHT to know
MOS can BURN in hell as far as im concerned and IF he does get a conviction because
he is playing games i will grant a pass out
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #699 12/1/2007
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Quote from: klaasend on December 03, 2007, 11:06:12 PM
FWIW - Lazlo appears to believe there is new evidence but that the prosecutor didn't share it with Beth/Dave/JQK.
It has to be. It just has to be.
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Quote from: AZSunny on December 03, 2007, 11:03:54 PM
Quote from: wreck on December 03, 2007, 10:39:07 PM
I could not have been more wrong. Crushed.
Wreck I am right with you, and when Greta said again "she tends to believe him" I yelled at the TV with the B word.
My heart is breaking for Beth, Dave, Natalee and everyone that loved her.
AZ, did you feel that she was taking freshly reopened wounds and pouring a box of salt on them? That's exactly how I felt. As Greta led up to saying she was still inclined to believe Joran, I knew where she was going and literally cringed for Beth.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #699 12/1/2007
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Quote from: igsigs on December 03, 2007, 11:07:17 PM
Quote from: klaasend on December 03, 2007, 10:57:31 PM
Tiny glimmer of hope posted by Lazlo at RU:
Lazlo
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:55 pm
Mos about meeting the family: The OM has choosen to be open as possible, but that would go as far as not sharing anything that could harm the investigation.
Thanks Klaas. But...what then? JQK TOTALLY misunderstood Hans? This is bizarre.
Lazlo believes Hans chose not to share the new information with JQK. So JQK didn't misuderstand Hans, Hans just didn't show all he had.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #699 12/1/2007
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if mos has it - share it with Beth and Dave
do not torture them more
please for goodness sakes
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #699 12/1/2007
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Quote from: klaasend on December 03, 2007, 11:10:05 PM
Quote from: igsigs on December 03, 2007, 11:07:17 PM
Quote from: klaasend on December 03, 2007, 10:57:31 PM
Tiny glimmer of hope posted by Lazlo at RU:
Lazlo
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:55 pm
Mos about meeting the family: The OM has choosen to be open as possible, but that would go as far as not sharing anything that could harm the investigation.
Thanks Klaas. But...what then? JQK TOTALLY misunderstood Hans? This is bizarre.
Lazlo believes Hans chose not to share the new information with JQK. So JQK didn't misuderstand Hans, Hans just didn't show all he had.
it is possible
i suppose
but still-----------------what a JERK
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #699 12/1/2007
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Quote from: Puzzler on December 03, 2007, 11:08:41 PM
Quote from: Dihannah1 on December 03, 2007, 11:03:59 PM
Quote from: Puzzler on December 03, 2007, 11:01:26 PM
There's something really, really crazy about all of this.
Why would Mos ruin his career like this??
Why would anyone want to hurt 2 parents this way???
Why tell the world you have new evidence and then JQK says they don't have any new evidence??
I do believe he tried the best he could, with what he had. So much material evidence disappeared in the beginning and I believe he really wanted to do the right thing, which is why he threw his own neck on the line. It just didn't worked as he hoped.... Sadly, he just through Aruba in a bigger tailspin.....
For all his experience, maybe he's never had to deal with this much evil
What is one man and one family to do when they have an entire goverment and maybe two governments against them. This was an uphill battle since day one.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #699 12/1/2007
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December 03, 2007, 11:12:06 PM »
Quote from: snoopy on December 03, 2007, 11:09:36 PM
Quote from: klaasend on December 03, 2007, 11:06:12 PM
FWIW - Lazlo appears to believe there is new evidence but that the prosecutor didn't share it with Beth/Dave/JQK.
It has to be. It just has to be.
Snoopy, I WANT to believe, and I'm an eternal optimist, but I have to wonder why Mos wouldn't have just told them that there was evidence they couldn't discuss.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #699 12/1/2007
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Quote from: Flmom47 on December 03, 2007, 11:07:51 PM
Could someone please post a link to the candlesite...I want to light a candle and send prayers for Dave, Beth and the family and that God will light the path so Tim and the search team can find Natalee to bring her home to Alabama.
here it is...
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=NAH
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #699 12/1/2007
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Quote from: robots on December 03, 2007, 11:04:24 PM
there is HOPE
the problem is that the HOPE is not with MOSS or DOMPIG or anyone involved
from aruba.
sometimes things just happen when you least expect it from an unlikely place or person
we just need to change gears .... lets carry on
Thanks you Robots. I agree.
Once the case is closed ... maybe Monkey could organize and put pressure on various levels of the American administration to investigate the corrupt investigation that has denied an American citizen justice and ... put an American family through a H--- on Earth.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #699 12/1/2007
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Quote from: Flmom47 on December 03, 2007, 11:07:51 PM
Could someone please post a link to the candlesite...I want to light a candle and send prayers for Dave, Beth and the family and that God will light the path so Tim and the search team can find Natalee to bring her home to Alabama.
I don't have the link, but will search for it and post when I find it if no one else gets to it first. I think we should have the candlesite for Natalee on a thread, so we can find it. And keep the candles burning!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #699 12/1/2007
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The Cover Up is nearly complete
The Dutch analyzed it all and thought it would be far worse for Aruban tourism if they exposed the truth and everyone involved.
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the only thing good to come of this is - everyone now knows
DO NOT GO TO ARUBA - they will THROW you AWAY like GARBAGE
i hate them all
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #699 12/1/2007
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Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on December 03, 2007, 11:12:53 PM
Quote from: Flmom47 on December 03, 2007, 11:07:51 PM
Could someone please post a link to the candlesite...I want to light a candle and send prayers for Dave, Beth and the family and that God will light the path so Tim and the search team can find Natalee to bring her home to Alabama.
here it is...
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=NAH
Thank you 2NJSons_Mom. I think we need to put this candle link where we can access it easily, particularly during these trying times.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #699 12/1/2007
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Quote from: crazybabyborg on December 03, 2007, 10:55:21 PM
Klaas? Please join us................I need to hear from you. Anybody need a hand to hold? Mine's outreached to all of us and mostly to Natalee's family.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>pull my finger
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #699 12/1/2007
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Quote from: Dana on December 03, 2007, 11:06:19 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on December 03, 2007, 11:01:32 PM
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Quote from: San on December 03, 2007, 10:47:33 PM
Greta said here is what the people don't know. There were a lot of people who were never questioned in Aruba.
yeah and im sure she has questioned them (cough), if what kelly says is true and the prosecutor said what hurt the case was too much media, i agree with that.
kelly has been no great ball of fire for me, i dont know what went on behind the scenes but he seems like a overpaid mouthpiece.
it aint over till the fat lady sings no matter what kelly and greta say.
i think it is wrong for JQK to come on north american media and say that, or if its true aruba is a bigger disaster than what we all think it is.
I've had moments of feeling JQK might not be the one....but what do I know? It's like a freaking media circus....at whose cost/loss?
Bottom line is these high price US lawyers have zero say in aruba, they like to have their mug on TV its good PR for them.
Greta is the host of all hosts well in at least her panels mind and she doesnt have the answers either.
Lets see where this goes but coming on national tv and saying its over is way out of line in my opinion. Even if it is over dont keep deflating the family this way.
Apparently it is not the "high price US lawyers" who have deflated the family. I'm sure that JQK knows more than we do. After all HE was there with Beth this week end when she talked to the prosecutor. Don't get me wrong, I want this solved as much as anyone. This appears to me to be another case of incompetence. I think the prosecutors thought maybe the boys would talk if they put them back in jail. Apparently they did not. For Mos to tell Greta that the reason the investigation failed was because of the family and the media is a very telling statement to me. It shows that he is NO better than the incompetent, blame giving people in charge before this. It's all about blaming someone else but not anyone on Aruba.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #699 12/1/2007
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Quote from: klaasend on December 03, 2007, 11:06:12 PM
FWIW - Lazlo appears to believe there is new evidence but that the prosecutor didn't share it with Beth/Dave/JQK.
Well, that's the only hope left, but you'd think he'd let them know not to worry, he has evidence he can't share, just trust him? Why send them home with no hope or comfort? I wonder what Beth shared with Mos, that he may not have known before.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #699 12/1/2007
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on December 03, 2007, 11:13:05 PM
Quote from: robots on December 03, 2007, 11:04:24 PM
there is HOPE
the problem is that the HOPE is not with MOSS or DOMPIG or anyone involved
from aruba.
sometimes things just happen when you least expect it from an unlikely place or person
we just need to change gears .... lets carry on
Thanks you Robots. I agree.
Once the case is closed ... maybe Monkey could organize and put pressure on various levels of the American administration to investigate the corrupt investigation that has denied an American citizen justice and ... put an American family through a H--- on Earth.
Janet
yep - there is Hope and sometimes hope needs a little boost from people to help it get going
just need to try a different angle
never give up - ever
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #699 12/1/2007
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Quote from: snoopy on December 03, 2007, 11:09:36 PM
Quote from: klaasend on December 03, 2007, 11:06:12 PM
FWIW - Lazlo appears to believe there is new evidence but that the prosecutor didn't share it with Beth/Dave/JQK.
It has to be. It just has to be.
Then why not just say he has new evidence that he can't share? No...JQK said he had no answers for them from the very beginning of their questions.
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