Natalee Case Discussion #703 12/8 - 12/11//2007

[Nut44x4]

LOL PI ........I am the one who screwed it up, lol...while trying to answer your question about the boat Captain.....

[San]

Paulus van der Sloot, forensic scientist Michael Archer, Anita van der Sloot and attorney Joseph Tacopina are seen early Friday, Dec. 7, 2007, before the release of Joran van der Sloot, in Oranjestad, Aruba. A judge in Aruba ordered the release Friday of the last of three suspects re-arrested last month in the disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway, ruling the evidence was not strong enough to continue holding him.
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Anita van der Sloot, left, reacts as her attorney Rosemarie Arnold givers her the news of the release of her son Joran van der Sloot, Friday, Dec. 7, 2007, in Oranjestad, Aruba. A judge in Aruba ordered the release Friday of the last of three suspects re-arrested last month in the disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway, ruling the evidence was not strong enough to continue holding him

Interesting picture.  It looks like Paul forgot to zip his pants, and Taco has man boobs. 

 

[Buckeye]

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Michael E. Archer is a forensic scientist from New York City. He is a member of the American Academy of Forensic Sciences. He is the chief forensic examiner at New York Forensics, Inc., in Fishkill, New York. Additionally, he is an Investigator in the Dutchess County Medical Examiner's Office. Archer has taught at Marist College in Poughkeepsie, New York & at Mount Saint Mary's College in Newburgh, New York, worked on high profile cases with Henry C. Lee, Ph.D. & Michael Baden, M.D. and appeared on Court T.V. and has been in the New York Times, The Daily News & The New York Post.

Interesting how in this case his findings are completely opposite or what Baden's thoughts are....

Was this from Wiki, too??  The only thing in Fishkill NY, I find is an Expert Witness Co.
If he's been quoted in NY Times etc, I would think there'd be a hit.  My son was quoted in a college newspaper and it comes up.   

[Silverfox]

Paulus van der Sloot, forensic scientist Michael Archer, Anita van der Sloot and attorney Joseph Tacopina are seen early Friday, Dec. 7, 2007, before the release of Joran van der Sloot, in Oranjestad, Aruba. A judge in Aruba ordered the release Friday of the last of three suspects re-arrested last month in the disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway, ruling the evidence was not strong enough to continue holding him.
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Anita van der Sloot, left, reacts as her attorney Rosemarie Arnold givers her the news of the release of her son Joran van der Sloot, Friday, Dec. 7, 2007, in Oranjestad, Aruba. A judge in Aruba ordered the release Friday of the last of three suspects re-arrested last month in the disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway, ruling the evidence was not strong enough to continue holding him

I can't help it ! LOL....

Notice he can't even keep his short pants zipped up?  Must be a sign, right?  Trolling for ?

Hey, Paulus has a unique taste in clothes -- anyone notice?  His short sleeved shirts are "elbow length"... Look at other men in the pics and Paulus is the only one who seems to like that.  Very unusual for a guy who sweats so much...

I have long felt that there was a strong possibiity that J2K were on a "fishing" expedition with Paulus.  The casino pics could suggest that perhaps he "chose" nat and then later the boys "picked her Up" -- remember Deepak's tapped statement to Joran in the police car?  "Your own father?"

[San]

Nice picture of Paul with his fly down and sweat covering the upper right side of his shirt.  Is that his wedding ring on his right hand?
Anita must have asked for the Harpo Marx look at the beauty salon. Ugh.
 

 

[oceanexploration]

It would have been awful if we went all the way to Aruba to find out the side scan sonar and ROV was incapable of the tasks we require.  The sea trials served to both get the gear working on board the Persistence and to prove their adequacy. If you think it would be interesting, I could post a sample of the sea trial data. The side scan sonar data is fantastic.

[Helen Back]

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Michael E. Archer is a forensic scientist from New York City. He is a member of the American Academy of Forensic Sciences. He is the chief forensic examiner at New York Forensics, Inc., in Fishkill, New York. Additionally, he is an Investigator in the Dutchess County Medical Examiner's Office. Archer has taught at Marist College in Poughkeepsie, New York & at Mount Saint Mary's College in Newburgh, New York, worked on high profile cases with Henry C. Lee, Ph.D. & Michael Baden, M.D. and appeared on Court T.V. and has been in the New York Times, The Daily News & The New York Post.

Interesting how in this case his findings are completely opposite or what Baden's thoughts are....

Was this from Wiki, too??  The only thing in Fishkill NY, I find is an Expert Witness Co.
If he's been quoted in NY Times etc, I would think there'd be a hit.  My son was quoted in a college newspaper and it comes up.   

searching for Michael Archer, forensic science.  Cannot find, CV, published articles or research, past cases.  nada.  I'll keep looking.

[Nut44x4]

Well...RU is giving Beth a rest and are back to blaming the MB kids again 

Monkey Bunkey @ RU wrote:
I'm still holding fast from day one, one of her "friends" dropped the x in her drink on the last night as a prank or in spite. Nasty gurls vying for that spot on the cheerleader team and all. Then it all went wrong when she never returned and they had to keep it quiet.

Someone in MB knows what they did.
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UGHhhhhhhh
  Now if they all think that 3 young 'boys' who live on Aruba couldn't get rid of Natalee without a trace...how the hell do they think these girls did...what a bunch of losers.

[wreck]

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Michael E. Archer is a forensic scientist from New York City. He is a member of the American Academy of Forensic Sciences. He is the chief forensic examiner at New York Forensics, Inc., in Fishkill, New York. Additionally, he is an Investigator in the Dutchess County Medical Examiner's Office. Archer has taught at Marist College in Poughkeepsie, New York & at Mount Saint Mary's College in Newburgh, New York, worked on high profile cases with Henry C. Lee, Ph.D. & Michael Baden, M.D. and appeared on Court T.V. and has been in the New York Times, The Daily News & The New York Post.

Interesting how in this case his findings are completely opposite or what Baden's thoughts are....

Was this from Wiki, too??  The only thing in Fishkill NY, I find is an Expert Witness Co.
If he's been quoted in NY Times etc, I would think there'd be a hit.  My son was quoted in a college newspaper and it comes up.   

It doesn't say for WHAT. Probably as a "perp" in an artcle for organized crime.

[Nut44x4]

It would have been awful if we went all the way to Aruba to find out the side scan sonar and ROV was incapable of the tasks we require.  The sea trials served to both get the gear working on board the Persistence and to prove their adequacy. If you think it would be interesting, I could post a sample of the sea trial data. The side scan sonar data is fantastic.

PLEASE DO!!

[AZSunny]

It would have been awful if we went all the way to Aruba to find out the side scan sonar and ROV was incapable of the tasks we require.  The sea trials served to both get the gear working on board the Persistence and to prove their adequacy. If you think it would be interesting, I could post a sample of the sea trial data. The side scan sonar data is fantastic.

Yes!  Please do!  Where is the ship now?  I read they would be arriving on Wednesday in Aruba. How have they weathered the storms?

[Blue Moon]

Notice from that article this clipped part:

Anita van der Sloot, left, reacts as her attorney Rosemarie Arnold givers her the news of the release of her son Joran van der Sloot, Friday, Dec. 7, 2007

[Observer]

It would have been awful if we went all the way to Aruba to find out the side scan sonar and ROV was incapable of the tasks we require.  The sea trials served to both get the gear working on board the Persistence and to prove their adequacy. If you think it would be interesting, I could post a sample of the sea trial data. The side scan sonar data is fantastic.

I think it's all fascinating..Even more so because on this expedition you are looking for Natalee. I observed some of the pics and it's amazing how small the crab cage would look. I guess thats where the ROV will come into play and great to hear that it has been working perfect.

In recent years there have been other missing americans who have dissapeared without a trace under suspicious circumstances. They may have been also buried off the coast of Aruba. You search may have others worried in Aruba that are not involved in Natalee's dissapearance.

[Nut44x4]

Notice from that article this clipped part:

Anita van der Sloot, left, reacts as her attorney Rosemarie Arnold givers her the news of the release of her son Joran van der Sloot, Friday, Dec. 7, 2007

interesting.....nice catch.

[dennisintn]

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35. Incitements to violence.

36. Any other act for which extradition may be granted in accordance with the laws [*29] of both Contracting Parties.

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tm, i think that covers every crime possible except for "runs with scissors" and "playing with matches", but i'll bet there's an aruban law to keep the f.b.i. out or to have access to any of the files, even as incomplete as they are.
dennisintn

[San]

Notice from that article this clipped part:

Anita van der Sloot, left, reacts as her attorney Rosemarie Arnold givers her the news of the release of her son Joran van der Sloot, Friday, Dec. 7, 2007

They meant to say her husbands attorney.

[oceanexploration]

I don't know exactly where the boat is now.  Yesterday it was waiting on weather.  I'm hoping to fly out on wed or thurs.  I can probably get a couple screen shots of the sea trial data up tomorrow.  I'll post an example from good "industry standard" side scan sonar.. then with this system for comparison.  I mentioned it on the blog... its an EdgeTech 4200-FS if you want to google it.  EdgeTech has some sample images on their site. 

[Observer]

Notice from that article this clipped part:

Anita van der Sloot, left, reacts as her attorney Rosemarie Arnold givers her the news of the release of her son Joran van der Sloot, Friday, Dec. 7, 2007

Yes Tacopina and his firm seem to be overseeing the Aruban Defense team..The whole thing stinks and is highly suspicious. PI'S out of Chicago,800 million dollar lawsuit by a firm out of chicago,Forensic Specialist,PI and Mob attorneys out of NYC..It's like a all star class of the full American Mob Defense Team.

[Leslie]

San:

I stole borrowed this:

TOP 20 WAYS TO TELL SOMEONE THEIR FLY IS UNZIPPED:

20) The cucumber has left the salad.
19) I can see the gun of Navarone.
18) Someone tore down the wall, and your Pink Floyd is hanging out.
17) You've got Windows on your laptop.
16) Sailor Ned's trying to take a little shore leave.
15) Your soldier isn't so unknown now.
14) Quasimodo needs to go back in the tower and tend to his bells.
13) You need to bring your tray table to the upright and locked position.
12) Paging Mr. Johnson... Paging Mr. Johnson...
11) Your pod bay door is open, Hal.
10) Elvis Junior has LEFT the building!
9) Mini Me is making a break for the escape pod.
Ensign Hanes is reporting a hull breach on the lower deck, Sir!
7) The Buick is not all the way in the garage.
6) Dr. Kimble has escaped!
5) You've got your fly set for "Monica" instead of "Hillary."
4) Our next guest is someone who needs no introduction...
3) You've got a security breach at Los Pantalones.
2) I'm talking about Shaft, can you dig it?

and The Number One Way to Tell Someone Their Fly Is Unzipped..

1) Men are From Mars, I Can See Your Penis.


 

[Anna]

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35. Incitements to violence.

36. Any other act for which extradition may be granted in accordance with the laws [*29] of both Contracting Parties.

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tm, i think that covers every crime possible except for "runs with scissors" and "playing with matches", but i'll bet there's an aruban law to keep the f.b.i. out or to have access to any of the files, even as incomplete as they are.
dennisintn
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Yes but it also says that those to be extradited must have been charged and convicted previously.  And it is a voilation of the Dutch Constitution to extradite someone of Dutch nationality.

See:

Article 8 deals with the extradition of nationals. It contains two provisions similar to those included in some of our other recently signed extradition treaties. It grants the Executive Authority the discretionary power to extradite its own nationals. If extradition is denied on the basis of nationality, the requested Party undertakes to submit the case to its competent authorities for the purpose of prosecution, provided that Party has jurisdiction over the offense. This article thus takes into account the law of the Netherlands ordinarily prohibiting the extradition of Dutch nationals but allowing for their prosecution in the Netherlands for offenses committed abroad.