Natalee Case Discussion #703 12/8 - 12/11//2007

[San]

Notice from that article this clipped part:

Anita van der Sloot, left, reacts as her attorney Rosemarie Arnold givers her the news of the release of her son Joran van der Sloot, Friday, Dec. 7, 2007

Yes Tacopina and his firm seem to be overseeing the Aruban Defense team..The whole thing stinks and is highly suspicious. PI'S out of Chicago,800 million dollar lawsuit by a firm out of chicago,Forensic Specialist,PI and Mob attorneys out of NYC..It's like a all star class of the full American Mob Defense Team.

I was speaking to someone tonight and telling them that a Mob figure is involved in Aruba and they said oh yeah what's his name.  I said Michael Posner without skipping a beat they said well he better stay in Aruba   

Joe Tacopina made it a point of saying how he hated the mob and how he would never represent them in his GQ interview.  He is so FOS it is coming out of his ears.  He is your typical Brooklyn Italian who when growing up in a neighborhood that was infested with mob figures.

[Nut44x4]

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Michael E. Archer is a forensic scientist from New York City. He is a member of the American Academy of Forensic Sciences. He is the chief forensic examiner at New York Forensics, Inc., in Fishkill, New York. Additionally, he is an Investigator in the Dutchess County Medical Examiner's Office. Archer has taught at Marist College in Poughkeepsie, New York & at Mount Saint Mary's College in Newburgh, New York, worked on high profile cases with Henry C. Lee, Ph.D. & Michael Baden, M.D. and appeared on Court T.V. and has been in the New York Times, The Daily News & The New York Post.

Interesting how in this case his findings are completely opposite or what Baden's thoughts are....

Was this from Wiki, too??  The only thing in Fishkill NY, I find is an Expert Witness Co.
If he's been quoted in NY Times etc, I would think there'd be a hit.  My son was quoted in a college newspaper and it comes up.   

I found the link for that>>>>
http://www.123exp-fun.com/t/01151501797/

[oceanexploration]

I will not speculate on what we will find offshore Aruba.  Truth be told... noone knows.  That is the nature of ocean exploration.  I am excited by the fact that you will all be able to follow along with us during the search through the blog and the press.   

[Helen Back]

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Interesting how in this case his findings are completely opposite or what Baden's thoughts are....

Was this from Wiki, too??  The only thing in Fishkill NY, I find is an Expert Witness Co.
If he's been quoted in NY Times etc, I would think there'd be a hit.  My son was quoted in a college newspaper and it comes up.   

while this contains some extra info, it came from a lame looking search result.  Related to electronic games?  or something?  http://www.123exp-fun.com/t/01151501797/

I am still looking for court tv. etc.

[San]

San:

I stole borrowed this:

TOP 20 WAYS TO TELL SOMEONE THEIR FLY IS UNZIPPED:

20) The cucumber has left the salad.
19) I can see the gun of Navarone.
18) Someone tore down the wall, and your Pink Floyd is hanging out.
17) You've got Windows on your laptop.
16) Sailor Ned's trying to take a little shore leave.
15) Your soldier isn't so unknown now.
14) Quasimodo needs to go back in the tower and tend to his bells.
13) You need to bring your tray table to the upright and locked position.
12) Paging Mr. Johnson... Paging Mr. Johnson...
11) Your pod bay door is open, Hal.
10) Elvis Junior has LEFT the building!
9) Mini Me is making a break for the escape pod.
Ensign Hanes is reporting a hull breach on the lower deck, Sir!
7) The Buick is not all the way in the garage.
6) Dr. Kimble has escaped!
5) You've got your fly set for "Monica" instead of "Hillary."
4) Our next guest is someone who needs no introduction...
3) You've got a security breach at Los Pantalones.
2) I'm talking about Shaft, can you dig it?

and The Number One Way to Tell Someone Their Fly Is Unzipped..

1) Men are From Mars, I Can See Your Penis.

I can hear Letterman reading this list 

[Magnolia]

Yes Tacopina and his firm seem to be overseeing the Aruban Defense team..The whole thing stinks and is highly suspicious. PI'S out of Chicago,800 million dollar lawsuit by a firm out of chicago,Forensic Specialist,PI and Mob attorneys out of NYC..It's like a all star class of the full American Mob Defense Team.
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I was speaking to someone tonight and telling them that a Mob figure is involved in Aruba and they said oh yeah what's his name.  I said Michael Posner without skipping a beat they said well he better stay in Aruba   

Joe Tacopina made it a point of saying how he hated the mob and how he would never represent them in his GQ interview.  He is so FOS it is coming out of his ears.  He is your typical Brooklyn Italian who when growing up in a neighborhood that was infested with mob figures.
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And he no doubt idolized them.

[Anna]

Well...RU is giving Beth a rest and are back to blaming the MB kids again 

Monkey Bunkey @ RU wrote:
I'm still holding fast from day one, one of her "friends" dropped the x in her drink on the last night as a prank or in spite. Nasty gurls vying for that spot on the cheerleader team and all. Then it all went wrong when she never returned and they had to keep it quiet.

Someone in MB knows what they did.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

UGHhhhhhhh
  Now if they all think that 3 young 'boys' who live on Aruba couldn't get rid of Natalee without a trace...how the hell do they think these girls did...what a bunch of losers.

Since Natalee was no longer in high school, I doubt her "cheerleading" position was a basis for MB girls drugging her.  What part of graduation do they not get?  Guess like Satish, these people never graduated from high school?  Do they really think she would be going back on weekends from college or something!

Talk about dumb as a box of rocks!  They can't even make up good lies.

[San]

And he no doubt idolized them.

Exactly.

[Observer]

I will not speculate on what we will find offshore Aruba.  Truth be told... noone knows.  That is the nature of ocean exploration.  I am excited by the fact that you will all be able to follow along with us during the search through the blog and the press.   

Yes it sounds exciting. If Natalee is ever found this sounds like the best chance. That part of the Caribbean has become known as the Epicenter of cocaine distribution. So no telling what lies on that ocean floor between Aruba,Venezuela and Colombia. I pray Natalee is just a few miles offshore in the first place you guys search.

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paulis is a killer

[Anna]

Notice now, as just announced on Fox News, that MOS is saying he will drop the CASE and not just the suspects by the end of the year.

So when did it go from suspects to case?  I noticed that is what a couple of the articles quoted him as saying.  Thought at first it was a misquote but this is about the third source saying that same thing.

Case and not just suspects.  I thought the investigation was going to continue but only those three stooges would not be officially considered as suspects.

Sounds as though he is going to close the entire thing down.

.

[Helen Back]

I will not speculate on what we will find offshore Aruba.  Truth be told... noone knows.  That is the nature of ocean exploration.  I am excited by the fact that you will all be able to follow along with us during the search through the blog and the press.   

Hi Ocenaexploration,

I am so thrilled at the prospect of your search, and so grateful for all the participants.  I'm sure most of us will be following your progress, as it sounds like a fascinating adventure, aside from the fact that we wish you great success in searching for Natalee.  The sample images from the side scan sonar are absolutely amazing!  Is this typical of the clarity you can expect in most searches?

[Silverfox]

Notice now, as just announced on Fox News, that MOS is saying he will drop the CASE and not just the suspects by the end of the year.

So when did it go from suspects to case?  I noticed that is what a couple of the articles quoted him as saying.  Thought at first it was a misquote but this is about the third source saying that same thing.

Case and not just suspects.  I thought the investigation was going to continue but only those three stooges would not be officially considered as suspects.

Sounds as though he is going to close the entire thing down.

.

Methinks Mos might be shrewed like a fox...

REMEMBER ??

If Aruba officially "closes" the case then the FBI OFFICIALLY can investigate...

I am thinking perhaps Mos is ready to turn everything over to the FBI under the International treaty...

Now this, to me makes sense...

Before, it was said that Aruba could/would keep the case open even if the boys were released as suspects. thus ensuring the FBI could NEVER get involved...

But Mos just might be doing a great "Statue of Liberty" play here... BRILLIANT!!! (imho)

[Helen Back]

Notice now, as just announced on Fox News, that MOS is saying he will drop the CASE and not just the suspects by the end of the year.

So when did it go from suspects to case?  I noticed that is what a couple of the articles quoted him as saying.  Thought at first it was a misquote but this is about the third source saying that same thing.

Case and not just suspects.  I thought the investigation was going to continue but only those three stooges would not be officially considered as suspects.

Sounds as though he is going to close the entire thing down.

Anna,

I heard the same report several times today.  That Mos says he may close the case at the end of the year, if he feels that he doesn't have enough evidence to take it to trial.

Anyone hear the actual interview where Mos makes this statement?  or is this a FOX summary?

[dennisintn]

Well...RU is giving Beth a rest and are back to blaming the MB kids again 

Monkey Bunkey @ RU wrote:
I'm still holding fast from day one, one of her "friends" dropped the x in her drink on the last night as a prank or in spite. Nasty gurls vying for that spot on the cheerleader team and all. Then it all went wrong when she never returned and they had to keep it quiet.

Someone in MB knows what they did.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

UGHhhhhhhh
  Now if they all think that 3 young 'boys' who live on Aruba couldn't get rid of Natalee without a trace...how the hell do they think these girls did...what a bunch of losers.

Since Natalee was no longer in high school, I doubt her "cheerleading" position was a basis for MB girls drugging her.  What part of graduation do they not get?  Guess like Satish, these people never graduated from high school?  Do they really think she would be going back on weekends from college or something!

Talk about dumb as a box of rocks!  They can't even make up good lies.

i'll bet julia can furnish 2 or 3 airport worker "credible witnesses" who saw mb girls hauling a big trunk onto the plane for the trip back to mb. 
dennisintn

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Michael E. Archer is a forensic scientist from New York City. He is a member of the American Academy of Forensic Sciences. He is the chief forensic examiner at New York Forensics, Inc., in Fishkill, New York. Additionally, he is an Investigator in the Dutchess County Medical Examiner's Office. Archer has taught at Marist College in Poughkeepsie, New York & at Mount Saint Mary's College in Newburgh, New York, worked on high profile cases with Henry C. Lee, Ph.D. & Michael Baden, M.D. and appeared on Court T.V. and has been in the New York Times, The Daily News & The New York Post.

Interesting how in this case his findings are completely opposite or what Baden's thoughts are....

Was this from Wiki, too??  The only thing in Fishkill NY, I find is an Expert Witness Co.
If he's been quoted in NY Times etc, I would think there'd be a hit.  My son was quoted in a college newspaper and it comes up.   

It doesn't say for WHAT. Probably as a "perp" in an artcle for organized crime.

Found this from Court TV:

According to police officer Mike Archer, Glenn told him that during a heated argument with Lynn, she admitted "that she didn't love him, and she had never loved him."

"He said he was going to move out and live with his father," Archer told jurors. "He said he didn't trust her anymore. She wasn't the same person that he married."

"The police department is kind of a rumor mill, isn't it?" Berry asked during cross-examination.

Archer conceded that there were rumors floating around about Lynn at the time.

http://www.courttv.com/trials/turner/050304_ctv.html

[Magnolia]

Notice now, as just announced on Fox News, that MOS is saying he will drop the CASE and not just the suspects by the end of the year.

So when did it go from suspects to case?  I noticed that is what a couple of the articles quoted him as saying.  Thought at first it was a misquote but this is about the third source saying that same thing.

Case and not just suspects.  I thought the investigation was going to continue but only those three stooges would not be officially considered as suspects.

Sounds as though he is going to close the entire thing down.

Anna,

I heard the same report several times today.  That Mos says he may close the case at the end of the year, if he feels that he doesn't have enough evidence to take it to trial.

Anyone hear the actual interview where Mos makes this statement?  or is this a FOX summary?

Everywhere I have seen it quoted it as an AP article.

[Nut44x4]

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Michael E. Archer is a forensic scientist from New York City. He is a member of the American Academy of Forensic Sciences. He is the chief forensic examiner at New York Forensics, Inc., in Fishkill, New York. Additionally, he is an Investigator in the Dutchess County Medical Examiner's Office. Archer has taught at Marist College in Poughkeepsie, New York & at Mount Saint Mary's College in Newburgh, New York, worked on high profile cases with Henry C. Lee, Ph.D. & Michael Baden, M.D. and appeared on Court T.V. and has been in the New York Times, The Daily News & The New York Post.

Interesting how in this case his findings are completely opposite or what Baden's thoughts are....

Was this from Wiki, too??  The only thing in Fishkill NY, I find is an Expert Witness Co.
If he's been quoted in NY Times etc, I would think there'd be a hit.  My son was quoted in a college newspaper and it comes up.   

while this contains some extra info, it came from a lame looking search result.  Related to electronic games?  or something?  http://www.123exp-fun.com/t/01151501797/

I am still looking for court tv. etc.

Me too Helen...I did find a Mike Archer that is >>>Mike Archer, Court TV's executive editor........but geeeze, that can't be him, lol.
Still seems weird to me that this guy doesn't have an internet history that appears REAL!

[San]

I am sitting here thinking about that Forensic guy that was with Joe T.  I wonder if Joe is going to say Natalee was never at the Sloots I even took my own forensic team to conduct tests at the Sloot Main House.

[Blue Moon]

You know all this is VERY strange.  On Greta's last week Joe T told her who the judge would be in this case before he even went to Aruba.  The papers would not even report who the judge was, they kept it secret.  How and why did Joe get this information unless someone (the judge maybe) told them ahead of time.  I thought it could have been any judge selected to oversee this.