Natalee Case Discussion #703 12/8 - 12/11//2007

[klaasend]

Klaas ... the dates in my post should be 2006.  Would you please do your thing.

I apologize.

Thank you.

Janet

Klaas

Thank you and ... have fun at the birthday party.

Janet

San actually fixed your typo before I could get to it, LOL.  Thanks, I will!  My mother inlaws birthday 

[San]

Yes I think it is PVDS also. Body posture,Clothes and a uncanny resemblance especially his hair. Every frame I looked at where he was in plain view someone doctored his face. I find that very suspicious. Just like the other few seconds of video in the casino the man goes to town on his drink. Seems like it was strong by the way he puts his head down afterwards after the long drink.

Paulus is a drunk and I will guarantee he was drunk that night.

[Tamikosmom]

Quote from: KarmaRoundUp on Today at 06:11:40 PM
Art Wood
'Rita Cosby Live & Direct'
December 1, 2005

ART WOOD, FORMER SECRET SERVICE AGENT: Absolutely. Absolutely. There's a lot that Americans can do through the State Department. I want to remind everybody that Natalee Holloway was a U.S. citizen. Once the Aruban authorities are done investigating this case, the FBI can still conduct an investigation.

I would like to know,once and for all,IF this is true.
Hi Monkeys

Klaas:
I would like to know too.  I'm affraid if we ask 3 different people we'll get 3 different answers.
 
Got stuck on the last thread.I hear you Klaas.
 

Art Wood
DANA PRETZER
July 2, 2006 - Part 1
July 8, 2006 - Part 2

http://sundaynightsatellite.libsyn.com/index.php?post_year=2006&post_month=07

Art:

The family of Natalee needs to put pressure on the US attorney in Birmingham to push the FBI to conduct an investigation after ALE close the case. We have a treaty that allows the FBI to pursue a violation of civil rights of an american citizen there.

Thanks Janet.

Karma ... I have save a copy of the treaty and related provision reference somewhere in a file on my disorganized desktop files.   

I am off now but ... will attempt to find it tomorrow afternoon and ... post accordingly

Have nice evening Monkeys.

Janet

4:20 PM

[Tamikosmom]

Klaas ... the dates in my post should be 2006.  Would you please do your thing.

I apologize.

Thank you.

Janet

Klaas

Thank you and ... have fun at the birthday party.

Janet

San actually fixed your typo before I could get to it, LOL.  Thanks, I will!  My mother inlaws birthday 

THANKS SAN!!

Now if you mods would only give me the option to edit my posts ...   

Janet

[San]

Klaas ... the dates in my post should be 2006.  Would you please do your thing.

I apologize.

Thank you.

Janet

Klaas

Thank you and ... have fun at the birthday party.

Janet

San actually fixed your typo before I could get to it, LOL.  Thanks, I will!  My mother inlaws birthday 

THANKS SAN!!

Now if you mods would only give me the option to edit my posts ...   

Janet

I don't have the power to give you those options.

[private eye]

I have only briefly met some of Beth's and or Jugs friends in Birmingham, and they come across as unpretentious, ordinary, down to earth, friendly, and extremely like able people, some or the group as a whole seem to have connections, obviously. Probably republican though huh:)

[Tamikosmom]

Klaas ... the dates in my post should be 2006.  Would you please do your thing.

I apologize.

Thank you.

Janet

Klaas

Thank you and ... have fun at the birthday party.

Janet

San actually fixed your typo before I could get to it, LOL.  Thanks, I will!  My mother inlaws birthday 

THANKS SAN!!

Now if you mods would only give me the option to edit my posts ...   

Janet

I don't have the power to give you those options.

Who are the "powers that be" who are in control.   

Gotta go!

Good Bye.

Janet

[Anna]

The man who looks like or  is Paulus appears also to have a CAMERA in front of him.

 

[Observer]

Paulus van der Sloot, forensic scientist Michael Archer, Anita van der Sloot and attorney Joseph Tacopina are seen early Friday, Dec. 7, 2007, before the release of Joran van der Sloot, in Oranjestad, Aruba. A judge in Aruba ordered the release Friday of the last of three suspects re-arrested last month in the disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway, ruling the evidence was not strong enough to continue holding him.
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Anita van der Sloot, left, reacts as her attorney Rosemarie Arnold givers her the news of the release of her son Joran van der Sloot, Friday, Dec. 7, 2007, in Oranjestad, Aruba. A judge in Aruba ordered the release Friday of the last of three suspects re-arrested last month in the disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway, ruling the evidence was not strong enough to continue holding him

[Anna]

I have only briefly met some of Beth's and or Jugs friends in Birmingham, and they come across as unpretentious, ordinary, down to earth, friendly, and extremely like able people, some or the group as a whole seem to have connections, obviously. Probably republican though huh:)

We can only hope that they are!

 

[Magnolia]

If I recall...Bill Clinton has already shown interest in the case.
An FBI agent that was on Aruba talked to Clinton about seeing
a Green Bay Packers poster in Joran's room and Clinton talked
to Bret Favre about meeting with Joran to try to get him to confess.

Beth has turned to Condaleeza Rice and Jug said that Bush was
his man so possibably that side would be a better bet.

[NYC_lover]

But despite all of the obvious circumstantial evidence, implied involvement, apparent and admitted lying by those with implied involvement, interrupted meltdowns where witnesses, US and Aruban have confirmed that Joran said something went wrong and she was buried by one of the brothers, the taped conversation of the boys in the police vehicle corroborating to a degree their involvement, there is nothing that constitutes evidence of a specific crime? And as Dompiq said, and being one who witnessed the meltdown, it is obvious to all that the boys are guilty as hell, we just don't know what specific crime and thus cannot prosecute them for anything.

Maybe Clinton isn't everyones favorite, and that is understandable, and I am sure there are other people just as educated, knowledgeable of law, world politics, international laws, and the tools available to affect justice in a case like this, it seems to me that unless someone like him adopts this cause, legal recourse against the boys is doubtful. I am not sure where I am going with this, but I think Beth and or her friends from Birmingham, should reach out to him, regardless of politics, for may a private consultation. Not because of his politics, but because of the knowledge he learned thru his experience in the White House, his total grasp of how the world functions and the brilliance with which God blessed him. Bush has done a lot of good, and is the kind of guy who would help if he could, and he is certainly brilliant in his on right, but it is a different kind of brilliance from Clinton. Of course, the elder Bush might have that kind of understanding due to his education and years of experience prior to and in the White House.

All I know is Beth needs someone with a vast understanding to help. Any other suggestions, names?

Private eye - No idea about suggestions names. What kind of things must this person have?

[Scandi]

Hi Everyone,  The one hope I have now after the disappointment of Joran being released is that hopefully they will now find Natalee.  The ship should be in place, right?  Has there been any word about what is happening with the search?  Thanks  ;}

[Nut44x4]

ACKKKKKKKKKKKKKK IS PAULUS's FLY UNZIPPED!!

[Anna]

Klaas ... the dates in my post should be 2006.  Would you please do your thing.

I apologize.

Thank you.

Janet

Klaas

Thank you and ... have fun at the birthday party.

Janet

San actually fixed your typo before I could get to it, LOL.  Thanks, I will!  My mother inlaws birthday 

THANKS SAN!!

Now if you mods would only give me the option to edit my posts ...   

Janet

I don't have the power to give you those options.

Who are the "powers that be" who are in control.  

Gotta go!

Good Bye.

Janet

Well, BLAH can edit MY posts!!!  How does that work?  Must be one of those Teacher's Pet situations, huh?

[dennisintn]

Paulus van der Sloot, forensic scientist Michael Archer, Anita van der Sloot and attorney Joseph Tacopina are seen early Friday, Dec. 7, 2007, before the release of Joran van der Sloot, in Oranjestad, Aruba. A judge in Aruba ordered the release Friday of the last of three suspects re-arrested last month in the disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway, ruling the evidence was not strong enough to continue holding him.
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Anita van der Sloot, left, reacts as her attorney Rosemarie Arnold givers her the news of the release of her son Joran van der Sloot, Friday, Dec. 7, 2007, in Oranjestad, Aruba. A judge in Aruba ordered the release Friday of the last of three suspects re-arrested last month in the disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway, ruling the evidence was not strong enough to continue holding him

and what do you think a forensic scientist would be advising them on?  possible evidence that could be found on a body after being in the ocean for 3l mos? 
dennisintn

[Magnolia]

Where's Robots?   Joe T. has man boobs!

[Observer]

ACKKKKKKKKKKKKKK IS PAULUS's FLY UNZIPPED!!

Why does he have a forensic scientist??

[Magnolia]

Hi Everyone,  The one hope I have now after the disappointment of Joran being released is that hopefully they will now find Natalee.  The ship should be in place, right?  Has there been any word about what is happening with the search?  Thanks  ;}

Scandi, the ship is experiencing weather delay...stuck in 14-18 foot seas.
They do not expect to arrive until Wednesday.

[Anna]

ACKKKKKKKKKKKKKK IS PAULUS's FLY UNZIPPED!!

Why does he have a forensic scientist??

IT IS!!!!  In that top photo, Paulus' fly is unzipped!  GROOOSSS!