Natalee Case Discussion #703 12/8 - 12/11//2007

[Kermit]

Maybe Tacopino brought his "forensic scientist" to sweep the BUGS out of the Sloot house. 

Paulus also probably set up 'the guys' with the best little whorehouse on the island

Most likely friends with Posner they were running their own porn money making deals. Remember Bailey that the SM'ers exposed had been in Deepak's car after being at Carlos n' Charlie's and then taken to The Mill hotel.


Pattern of behavior that these "suspects" were able to get hotel rooms to take tourist girls.

They set up and targeted tourists. Joran admitted he "did this 20 times before"

And Deepak stated, "You're own father!"

[Kermit]

thanks, klaasend.  according to the "deny till you die" crowd on aruba, we're supposed to have forgotten all these things that happened during summer, fall 05.  our memories fading into the sunset and us along with them.  only by refreshing these memories for everyone does natalee's family stand a chance of winning natalee back and justice for her.
dennisintn

I agree dennis,

Let's keep on exposing the truth.

[Leslie]

FierlJepper @ scrux says...  that the drug witness PV used by DeVries ... states that it was given by a *friend of Joran*.
Unbelievable

Thank you!  That person was born in Aruba in the month of December:
Who could it be?  I must compare the witness statement list with the above information and come up with a list. 

[robots]

at 4:03 you can see it ........the HUMAN SWEAT MACHINE

[Kat_Gram]

"We still have another 15 years to wait for new evidence," he says.
From the People article, is this going to be their out to let any other agency or the family to see what they have NOW ?

[Leslie]

Random:

Watching a biography of Lee Marvin - he attended St Leo's in Florida.

The aforementionned ABC casino video shows Joran walking in at the 4:00 mark and from 4:01 to 4: 13 shows the group at the blackjack table.  I do not see Paul making the chips-under-the-table movement in that time frame, but I have seen it before, on other frames from the video.  It looked like he was trying to have a reason to look up Natalee's skirt by bending low and turning to his right.   ( I am on dial-up and a 10 minute video takes an hour to play in its entirety. It is handy by freezing frames. )  I am only at the 7:45 mark, so maybe there is more of the casino video yet to come. 

[San]

"We still have another 15 years to wait for new evidence," he says.
From the People article, is this going to be their out to let any other agency or the family to see what they have NOW ?

I was thinking of the same thing Kat.  By then they will hope that we would forget about this case.

I believe Aruba will never give up the any statements/evidence.  They will be defiant and just say no you can't have it.

I hope Paulus, Anita, Rudy Croes, Nelson Odobur, Dennis Jacobs, Van der Straaten, Smit are all dead by then.  They all deserve to rot in hell for what they did.

[San]

Random:

Watching a biography of Lee Marvin - he attended St Leo's in Florida.

The aforementionned ABC casino video shows Joran walking in at the 4:00 mark and from 4:01 to 4: 13 shows the group at the blackjack table.  I do not see Paul making the chips-under-the-table movement in that time frame, but I have seen it before, on other frames from the video.  It looked like he was trying to have a reason to look up Natalee's skirt by bending low and turning to his right.   ( I am on dial-up and a 10 minute video takes an hour to play in its entirety. It is handy by freezing frames. )  I am only at the 7:45 mark, so maybe there is more of the casino video yet to come. 

If you look at that picture Paulus seems to be listening to Natalee and from what you can see she is trying to sit far away from Paulus and Joran is listening to her friend.

Could Paulus and Joran be giving each other signals.

[longhaul]

You are welcome, but what does this mean; ma'am?
And btw, thanks have a great day too.

lol, it's a show of respect and courtesy to the person you're talking to.  ma'am to women, and sir to men.  taught at an early age to southerners of my vintage.  not even allowed to be used in some schools these days.  old south ways are dying at a rapid clip.  it doesn't mean there was anything wrong with them, just different.
dennisintn
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Hey Monkeys, thought this was a good place to jump in!  Even in KY I have taught my kids the ma'am and sir thing!!  Let me intro myself here by saying I have followed this sight since the start and all of you are awesome people with huge hearts who seem to want nothing but the truth in regards to what happened to Natalee.  At this point we can only pray that perhaps the Persevernce finds her and can return her to her family. 

[longhaul]

ok so I screwed up the quote thing.......sorry!!!

[San]

Hey Monkeys, thought this was a good place to jump in!  Even in KY I have taught my kids the ma'am and sir thing!!  Let me intro myself here by saying I have followed this sight since the start and all of you are awesome people with huge hearts who seem to want nothing but the truth in regards to what happened to Natalee.  At this point we can only pray that perhaps the Persevernce finds her and can return her to her family. 

Welcome longhaul.

[Nut44x4]

FierlJepper @ scrux says...  that the drug witness PV used by DeVries ... states that it was given by a *friend of Joran*.
Unbelievable

Thank you!  That person was born in Aruba in the month of December:
Who could it be?  I must compare the witness statement list with the above information and come up with a list. 

I checked a bunch of them and the only one whose birthdays are not listed are (or that I can't see) are Steve Croes and Freddy 

Still looking......

[klaasend]

Maybe he's just zipping up his fly 

[San]

ok so I screwed up the quote thing.......sorry!!!

No worry it happens all the time.

[San]

Maybe he's just zipping up his fly 

 

[Nut44x4]

ok so I screwed up the quote thing.......sorry!!!

lol..no problem, we all do that.
Welcome to SM

[longhaul]

Thanks ya'll!! 

And I agree the PVS needs to be heavily looked.  As we say here in my little "podunk" town,  "something just aint right there!"

[klaasend]

Thanks ya'll!! 

And I agree the PVS needs to be heavily looked.  As we say here in my little "podunk" town,  "something just aint right there!"

Welcome Longhaul!

I think people are affraid if they look too long at PVDS they'll go blind,

[longhaul]

Lmao Klass,  blind is an understatement!  I want to puke everytime I see him or JR for that matter.  But looking closer at these pics we've seen today and reading from the very first day that Natalee went missing,  dear poppa is as guilty as the rest! 

[Leslie]

Maybe he's just zipping up his fly 

Or unzipping it!  Around the 8:58 mark.