Natalee Case Discussion #703 12/8 - 12/11//2007

[Nut44x4]

The man who looks like or  is Paulus appears also to have a CAMERA in front of him.

 

Camera's not allowed in Casino's in US by customers...probably ok in Aruba though.

[Helen Back]

Paulus van der Sloot, forensic scientist Michael Archer, Anita van der Sloot and attorney Joseph Tacopina are seen early Friday, Dec. 7, 2007, before the release of Joran van der Sloot, in Oranjestad, Aruba. A judge in Aruba ordered the release Friday of the last of three suspects re-arrested last month in the disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway, ruling the evidence was not strong enough to continue holding him.
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Anita van der Sloot, left, reacts as her attorney Rosemarie Arnold givers her the news of the release of her son Joran van der Sloot, Friday, Dec. 7, 2007, in Oranjestad, Aruba. A judge in Aruba ordered the release Friday of the last of three suspects re-arrested last month in the disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway, ruling the evidence was not strong enough to continue holding him

and what do you think a forensic scientist would be advising them on? possible evidence that could be found on a body after being in the ocean for 3l mos? 
dennisintn

That was my question.  Very telling.

[Anna]

The man who looks like or  is Paulus appears also to have a CAMERA in front of him.

 

Camera's not allowed in Casino's in US by customers...probably ok in Aruba though.

Well, he sure has one in that photo.  And we have long been looking for that photo connection.  There's one.

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[Observer]

The man who looks like or  is Paulus appears also to have a CAMERA in front of him.

 

That could be a camera..I can't tell for sure though 

[Anna]

The man who looks like or  is Paulus appears also to have a CAMERA in front of him.

 

That could be a camera..I can't tell for sure though 

It's a silver box with a hole in the front.  Only thing I can think of that fits that description is a camera.  Maybe Paulus is the photog instead of Freddie.

Your own father!

Just a thought.

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[Nut44x4]

ACKKKKKKKKKKKKKK IS PAULUS's FLY UNZIPPED!!

Why does he have a forensic scientist??

More than likely to discredit any evidence found. BUT....what bugs me is that I googled this man and the only thing I can find is a NEW WIKI posing of him and just stuff recently re: Natalee/Sloots. I just started looking....but it is weird he isn't in google other than that.

[private eye]

If I recall...Bill Clinton has already shown interest in the case.
An FBI agent that was on Aruba talked to Clinton about seeing
a Green Bay Packers poster in Joran's room and Clinton talked
to Bret Favre about meeting with Joran to try to get him to confess.

Beth has turned to Condaleeza Rice and Jug said that Bush was
his man so possibably that side would be a better bet.

I am middle age, so I have gotten to watch a lot of Presidents give speeches on foreign relations, treaties, etc. and I always got the impression that they had aides and speech writers advise them and write their speeches. With Clinton, and the elder Bush, I always felt like they personally had a complete and full understanding of the complete world:) Bush from his education and many many years of public service from the CIA to his work in China, VP and President, and Clinton, mostly from his thirst for knowledge and gift from God, though 2 terms in the white house helped as did his other positions. That is why I think the 2 of them became such close friends the last few years. Nothing at all against the other Pres as Reagan and Kennedy were 2 of my all time favorites as well.

Probably a waste of time to even think about it, and I repeat, I have nothing against the present Bush, I think we all owe him a thanks for despite possibly being wrong at different stages of the Iraq war, having the courage, brilliance, and persistence to correct the situation which he seems to be doing with the latest buildup. That took a strong man interested not in himself, but in bettering the world.

[Leslie]

Paul has never been asked, in any public interview, to confirm or deny his presence in the casino beside Natalee.  The video was first viewed as part of the ABC/Chris Cuomo interview with Joran in February 2006.  Cuomo didn't mention that the man was Paul; that was discovered by posters in this forum (myself included).  The man has the same height, weight, posture, clothing, glasses, hairline and gold watch as Paul.  Klaas did many photo comparisons that proved the man was Paul.  Of course, Joran says that his father left the casino prior to his interaction with Natalee and her friends, but his dubious timeline is untruthful.  This is one of the best pieces of evidence to prove that Joran has lied in his police statements and to Greta's face but when has the truth been important in this case?
Why was Joran lying about an interaction between Natalee and his father (when both VDS men admit Paul was at the casino that evening) prior to the last public appearance of Natalee at C&C's?  It seems innocent enough so why not own up to it?  The silence on Paul's part is extremely suspicious. 
 

[private eye]

There is someone who can figure this thing out, and I am praying that whoever he is, somehow, Beth meets him. And no knock against JQK, at all, he is Beth's rock.

[Nut44x4]

http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/252/story/194833.html

Photo by Michael Archer

[private eye]

I think I may better sign off. Getting a visual of Natalee being sexually assualted by Paulus is enough to cause me to ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, even though I believe it is a real possibility

[Nut44x4]

The man who looks like or  is Paulus appears also to have a CAMERA in front of him.

 

That could be a camera..I can't tell for sure though 

It's a silver box with a hole in the front.  Only thing I can think of that fits that description is a camera.  Maybe Paulus is the photog instead of Freddie.

Your own father!

Just a thought.

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I can't tell if it is a camera either...I think I am going to puke

[private eye]

Was that the Captain of the high tech ship who posted last night?

[Lala'sMom]

That is Paulus in the casino with Natalee...want to know how I know?

IF IT WASN'T PAULUS WE WOULD ALREADY KNOW WHO IT IS!

 Joe T. would have pulled that guy out of whatever cave he has been hiding in and pranced him out in front of the cameras just to prove that Paulus had nothing to do with this. Attorneys will leak any info that is beneficial to their clients. Proving that is not Paulus would be a big, big positive for the Sloots.  IT IS PAULUS!!!!  If it isn't then someone needs to prove it to me....I am waiting.

[Observer]

The man who looks like or  is Paulus appears also to have a CAMERA in front of him.

 

Camera's not allowed in Casino's in US by customers...probably ok in Aruba though.

Well, he sure has one in that photo.  And we have long been looking for that photo connection.  There's one.

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Taking pictures of the MB girls so they can pick out one that they like? No idea why PVDS would have a camera in the casino or why he would be using a camera at all that night.

It seems to me like Joran was communicating with the guy. Then the girl points at the  man and Joran quickly turns his attention to her.(Jorans Body Language) Like why are you pointing and drawing attention to him? Sure would be nice to see the entire footage.

[Buckeye]

Maybe he's in "computer forensics" 

[private eye]

I was teasing about not being able to deal with Paulus involvement, sort of. I have always thought he had some undefined inappropriate relationship with Joran involving sex, women, possibly others, drinking, that started out probably as a father wanting to be friends with his kid, then digressing slowly, and culminating in this incident. His behavior with Beth was inappropriate if he was lying for his son. It wouldn't be that terrifying for a Father to lie to protect his son, most fathers could do that without feeling overwhelmed with guilt and stress. It is different to cover up your own wrong deeds, and guilt is a more appropriate reaction.

[Lala'sMom]

The man who looks like or  is Paulus appears also to have a CAMERA in front of him.

 

That could be a camera..I can't tell for sure though 

I may be way off here...but I think that is a pack of cigarettes in front of Paulus. IIRC in the video...the complete one that we saw in the news story, he lights one up.  Of course, I could be wrong.

[Anna]

Those four in the photo look like the Weight Watcher's "BEFORE" photo.  Never knew Joe T was so pudgy.  Even Anita has been porking up.  Koen is not the only one to have packed on the poundage.

Don't think too much of Anita's orange hair, either.

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[private eye]

The man who looks like or  is Paulus appears also to have a CAMERA in front of him.

 

Cigarettes would be the normal item to expect him to set in front of him

That could be a camera..I can't tell for sure though 

I may be way off here...but I think that is a pack of cigarettes in front of Paulus. IIRC in the video...the complete one that we saw in the news story, he lights one up.  Of course, I could be wrong.