Natalee Case Discussion #703 12/8 - 12/11//2007

[Nut44x4]

I can't believe that Taco is parading this Michael Archer on TV as if he is really a forensic scientist.  The man is a fraud.  He's a former undertaker who was sued in court for thousands of dollars.  He's no scientist!!!

He talks more like a defense attorney...Joe T. must have written his script.

[2NJSons_Mom]

18 minutes!!!!!!!!!!!! This guy is on crack

Wonder what timeline/clock he was looking at? 

[ldstlou]

Love this guy!!! Kind of what I looked like!! I am still here!! Was feeling lonely too!! lol

[AZLady]

I can't believe that Taco is parading this Michael Archer on TV as if he is really a forensic scientist.  The man is a fraud.  He's a former undertaker who was sued in court for thousands of dollars.  He's no scientist!!!

He talks more like a defense attorney...Joe T. must have written his script.

I'm sure he did.  This is just such a joke.  Anyone who wants to know more about Archer just go to Dutchess county in NY and search their database.  He's a loser who owned a failed funeral parlor and has recently (just this year) been sued by the local credit credit union for over $35,000.  His recent wiki entry is false and his credentials are phony.

[ldstlou]

I can't believe that Taco is parading this Michael Archer on TV as if he is really a forensic scientist.  The man is a fraud.  He's a former undertaker who was sued in court for thousands of dollars.  He's no scientist!!!

He talks more like a defense attorney...Joe T. must have written his script.

oops...I missed that!! thought he said forensic lawyer...not scientist..now that is really funny!! Can't see this guy waddling across the sand investigating anything but the donut in his hand...so sorry,...back to confession for me!!

[Leslie]

  is everyone in shock?? Hellooo...

Shocked?  Nah.  It's the same old s**t.  Archer makes a claim that there was only an 18 minute window of opportunity to commit a crime (a claim that has never been suggested before) based on no evidence and Star Jones treats it as the truth, but when Paul Reynolds states the documented truth about the limited search of the VDS property, she calls him on it.   
Just ignore her.

[ldstlou]

I can't believe that Taco is parading this Michael Archer on TV as if he is really a forensic scientist.  The man is a fraud.  He's a former undertaker who was sued in court for thousands of dollars.  He's no scientist!!!

He talks more like a defense attorney...Joe T. must have written his script.

I'm sure he did.  This is just such a joke.  Anyone who wants to know more about Archer just go to Dutchess county in NY and search their database.  He's a loser who owned a failed funeral parlor and has recently (just this year) been sued by the local credit credit union for over $35,000.  His recent wiki entry is false and his credentials are phony.

r u kidding me? And Star is asking him serious questions? So he drove around 2 1/2 years later and didn't see any evidence???!!! Then went to the sloots and took pics of what???!! holy crap., now I am really infuriated. It's like Beth said, if you didn't see it you wouldn't believe it!!! We aren't in Kansas anymore Toto...we are in the twilight zone!!!

[Nut44x4]

  is everyone in shock?? Hellooo...

Shocked?  Nah.  It's the same old s**t.  Archer makes a claim that there was only an 18 minute window of opportunity to commit a crime (a claim that has never been suggested before) based on no evidence and Star Jones treats it as the truth, but when Paul Reynolds states the documented truth about the limited search of the VDS property, she calls him on it.   
Just ignore her.


I meant is everyone in shock and is that why no one was posting...lol.
I can't stand Star...never could, never will. I am glad I didn't watch the show...it was bad enough reading the tranny...I could actually hear her dull, boring voice as I read the transcript...ughhh.

[Nut44x4]

I need to take a break for a bit...I screwed up that quote 

[AZLady]

Yeah, it's friggin' amazing!  Some guy appears out of nowhere with Taco and calls himself a forensic scientist.  Then, he claims to drive around Aruba 2 1/2 years after the crime and proclaims there is no evidence and only an impossible 18 minute window of time for the crime to have occurred.  Next, he's on TV discussing the case with Star Jones as if he's some sort of expert.  Geez...I've missed my calling.  I know more about this case and the evidence than this undertaker.  Why isn't Star calling me for an interview?  Yoo hoo, Star!  I can talk to you about this... 

friggin' amazing...

[kkate]

Aruba get ready to smell the poverty as little to no americans will be gracing your shores thanks to the VDS and Kalpoes and your corrupt little island. Hans Mos is apparanlt FOS and a POS enjoy eachother you LOSERS! Can't wait until we relish here the demise of Paulus and J2K and discuss how you were made to disappear. I truly would love it. I hope TES can bring Nat home. Until then I hope Aruba sinks that place is a sh*t sandwich and everyday the locals take a bite. On another note Happy Holidays to All you monkeys here and everywhere

Peace- IDFT

You can count on some Canadians supporting a boycott and spreading the word too!

[JusticeforNatalee]

http://www.courttv.com/contact/feedbackform.asp?subject_id=129&start=true

Let Star hear from you regarding the show.

[dennisintn]

I can't believe that Taco is parading this Michael Archer on TV as if he is really a forensic scientist.  The man is a fraud.  He's a former undertaker who was sued in court for thousands of dollars.  He's no scientist!!!

He talks more like a defense attorney...Joe T. must have written his script.

I'm sure he did.  This is just such a joke.  Anyone who wants to know more about Archer just go to Dutchess county in NY and search their database.  He's a loser who owned a failed funeral parlor and has recently (just this year) been sued by the local credit credit union for over $35,000.  His recent wiki entry is false and his credentials are phony.

r u kidding me? And Star is asking him serious questions? So he drove around 2 1/2 years later and didn't see any evidence???!!! Then went to the sloots and took pics of what???!! holy crap., now I am really infuriated. It's like Beth said, if you didn't see it you wouldn't believe it!!! We aren't in Kansas anymore Toto...we are in the twilight zone!!!

the infuriating part to me is that this squirrel spouts all this garbage and people like starr just nod their heads like it was gospel.  taco. says he's got proof that sloot is totally innocent and if he's charged he'll then let it be seen.  right, sure, joe, you're completely deranged if you've got half what you say you have and then let your client be hassled, imprisoned for almost 3 yrs. without trying to convince the prosecutor with your "evidence".  i don't know any 2nd graders who would fall for that line.  but greta and starr and the rest of the media just nod their heads and move right along to the next stosry. 
dennisintn

[ldstlou]

Yeah, it's friggin' amazing!  Some guy appears out of nowhere with Taco and calls himself a forensic scientist.  Then, he claims to drive around Aruba 2 1/2 years after the crime and proclaims there is no evidence and only an impossible 18 minute window of time for the crime to have occurred.  Next, he's on TV discussing the case with Star Jones as if he's some sort of expert.  Geez...I've missed my calling.  I know more about this case and the evidence than this undertaker.  Why isn't Star calling me for an interview?  Yoo hoo, Star!  I can talk to you about this... 

friggin' amazing...

I just posted on Star's "quest book"  Doubt that one will get published. Told her if she wants the facts about the case, to visit Scared Monkeys or interview Jossy the next time.

[ldstlou]

I can't believe that Taco is parading this Michael Archer on TV as if he is really a forensic scientist.  The man is a fraud.  He's a former undertaker who was sued in court for thousands of dollars.  He's no scientist!!!

He talks more like a defense attorney...Joe T. must have written his script.

I'm sure he did.  This is just such a joke.  Anyone who wants to know more about Archer just go to Dutchess county in NY and search their database.  He's a loser who owned a failed funeral parlor and has recently (just this year) been sued by the local credit credit union for over $35,000.  His recent wiki entry is false and his credentials are phony.

r u kidding me? And Star is asking him serious questions? So he drove around 2 1/2 years later and didn't see any evidence???!!! Then went to the sloots and took pics of what???!! holy crap., now I am really infuriated. It's like Beth said, if you didn't see it you wouldn't believe it!!! We aren't in Kansas anymore Toto...we are in the twilight zone!!!

the infuriating part to me is that this squirrel spouts all this garbage and people like starr just nod their heads like it was gospel.  taco. says he's got proof that sloot is totally innocent and if he's charged he'll then let it be seen.  right, sure, joe, you're completely deranged if you've got half what you say you have and then let your client be hassled, imprisoned for almost 3 yrs. without trying to convince the prosecutor with your "evidence".  i don't know any 2nd graders who would fall for that line.  but greta and starr and the rest of the media just nod their heads and move right along to the next stosry. 
dennisintn

I hope Jossy starts publishing what he has!!!

[Anna]

sun-sentinel.com/news/local/caribbean/sfl-1210mysteryinaruba,0,4223474.story

South Florida Sun-Sentinel.com
Aruba prosecutor plans to close Holloway case by month's end
By DANICA COTO

Associated Press

7:24 AM EST, December 10, 2007

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico

Aruba's chief prosecutor said he will close the case of missing American teenager Natalee Holloway by the end of the month unless his office finds that there is enough evidence to charge someone with a major crime.

The prosecutor, Hans Mos, said he would not comment about the kind of evidence his office is reviewing but that he does not anticipate finding Holloway's remains and prosecuting a case without them would be ``very hard.''

``We promised the suspects that after Dec. 31, we will not pursue the case,'' Mos told The Associated Press Friday. ``This investigation should end at a certain point.''

Holloway's parents did not return multiple messages left at their homes and on their cell phones.

No one has been formally charged in the investigation, which critics have said was botched in its early stages by Aruban authorities.

The probe has revolved around three suspects: Joran van der Sloot, a 20-year-old Dutch citizen and brothers Deepak Kalpoe, 24, and Satish Kalpoe, 21, from Surinam.

They were the last people known to see Holloway before she vanished on the night of May 30, 2005. All three, who have denied any role in her disappearance, have been arrested several times _ the latest arrests coming last month _ but released after different judges ruled there was not enough evidence to keep holding them.

Mos told the AP he will drop the case unless prosecutors in his office agree before the New Year that they have strong enough evidence to go to court.

He said he imposed the deadline himself earlier this year because he feels two years is a reasonable amount of time for bringing charges against someone.

Mos said he and the Holloway family feel pursuing a minor charge ``doesn't serve a purpose.'' A person convicted of making a body disappear, for example, would serve only six months in prison, he said.

The search for Holloway spanned more than two years and involved hundreds of volunteers, Aruban soldiers, FBI agents and even Dutch F-16 jets laden with search equipment.

``We have a strong conviction that something happened that night, and that it was a very serious thing,'' Mos said. ``The question is whether we are able to prove it.''

He said he does not anticipate ever finding Holloway's remains.

``It's very hard to try a case without a body,'' he said. ``It's not impossible, but you need substantial evidence that somebody was killed.''

Authorities have combed sand dunes, drained a pond and dove into the island's clear waters. They have detained people including a disc jockey, a casino croupier, two former hotel security guards and even van der Sloot's father, a judge in training at the time.

False leads have included blond hairs attached to a duct tape found along Aruba's coast, and a bloody mattress later linked to a dead dog.

``The Aruban prosecution is going around in circles,'' said Joseph Tacopina, one of van der Sloot's attorneys. ``They've bumbled this case from the beginning.''

In 2005, Aruba's prime minister met with Holloway's mother and said authorities made mistakes at the start of their investigation.

Holloway arrived in Aruba to celebrate her high school graduation. On the last night she was seen alive, the Mountain Brook, Alabama native attended a beach concert featuring Boyz II Men and Lauryn Hill and then ate and danced at Carlos 'N Charlie's bar and restaurant.

She never showed up for her return flight, and police found her passport in her hotel room with her packed bags.

Copyright © 2007, South Florida Sun-Sentinel


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So I guess this is what happened to any of those lesser charges we have been discussing.

Apparently during their discussion, the family told Mos they are not interested in pursuing those.

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[Helen Back]

Here's on thing that really chaps me....Joran's defense team is always bringing up Joran's statement that Natalee wanted to see the sharks as evidence that they took her to the beach.

Aside from the fact that every word out of his mouth is a lie......

I take the comment about taking her to see the sharks as his little smug joke with himself.  His online poker nic is shark68 or something.  If any truth from him, he took Natalee to someplace there was a poker game or gambling, like a private game where others were waiting for them to arrive.

The beach story is trumped up so much it's one of the biggest diversions.  IMO, they were never on the beach.  All about the "sharks".

Can you believe that 2 1/2 years later, Joe's crack forensic scientist drove around and didn't see any evidence?  And Star is supposed to be a lawyer.  Was she even listening?

[ldstlou]

Here's on thing that really chaps me....Joran's defense team is always bringing up Joran's statement that Natalee wanted to see the sharks as evidence that they took her to the beach.

Aside from the fact that every word out of his mouth is a lie......

I take the comment about taking her to see the sharks as his little smug joke with himself.  His online poker nic is shark68 or something.  If any truth from him, he took Natalee to someplace there was a poker game or gambling, like a private game where others were waiting for them to arrive.

The beach story is trumped up so much it's one of the biggest diversions.  IMO, they were never on the beach.  All about the "sharks".

Can you believe that 2 1/2 years later, Joe's crack forensic scientist drove around and didn't see any evidence?  And Star is supposed to be a lawyer.  Was she even listening?

If Natalee wanted to see sharks, it would have been back at her hotel watching CARD sharks with HER FRIENDS in the casino...not in a car with three losers at a lighthouse thats for sure!!!!!! What a-holes they are!!!

[Helen Back]

I asked a question this weekend, but it was slow in here.  Does anyone with boat experience have an opinion about whether Koen's family boat would be the kind of boat you could take out 2 to 3 miles? 

Thanks

[Nut44x4]

I asked a question this weekend, but it was slow in here.  Does anyone with boat experience have an opinion about whether Koen's family boat would be the kind of boat you could take out 2 to 3 miles? 

Thanks

definitely