Natalee Case Discussion #703 12/8 - 12/11//2007

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[Silverfox]

  is everyone in shock?? Hellooo...

Shocked?  Nah.  It's the same old s**t.  Archer makes a claim that there was only an 18 minute window of opportunity to commit a crime (a claim that has never been suggested before) based on no evidence and Star Jones treats it as the truth, but when Paul Reynolds states the documented truth about the limited search of the VDS property, she calls him on it.   
Just ignore her.

Unless, of course, joran "delivered" Nat to "Papa" and "friends" and then left to do something else....

[Anna]

Looks as though Sporter has had a loooooong streak of that ole BAD luck!


 

Klaas,
would that be just his online losses?  Pretty steep for unemployed college freshman.

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Looks as though Sporter has had a loooooong streak of that ole BAD luck!


 

Klaas,
would that be just his online losses?  Pretty steep for unemployed college freshman.

That's why I wanted to post both charts.  Looking at the first one it appears he wins alot but if you look at the Party Poker totals he's not doing so well, lol 

[ldstlou]

Looks as though Sporter has had a loooooong streak of that ole BAD luck!


 

Klaas,
would that be just his online losses?  Pretty steep for unemployed college freshman.

I think he is up $9400 on the one sight.

[ldstlou]

Looks as though Sporter has had a loooooong streak of that ole BAD luck!


 

Klaas,
would that be just his online losses?  Pretty steep for unemployed college freshman.

I think he is up $9400 on the one sight.

didn't he say he was moving to another college...all the late night poker, he is probably flunking out!!

[Silverfox]

I fly to Aruba on Wed to reunite with the Persistence.  Then the search begins.

My God... what have we gotten into? 
I've thought through a lot of things to date which all came to a point in this one article.  This summarizes perfectly what I feared.

http://www.tni.org/detail_page.phtml?act_id=2141&username=guest@tni.org&password=9999&publish=Y

Can someone PLEASE carefully read this article and give me some idea to what level I can believe what is written?  If 50% is accurate, I am seriously worried about this adventure.  The article is all about the Aruban Parliament, Free-zone / tax haven, drug trafficking, the Bankers of Cosa Nostra...Contrera's (The Cuntrera-Caruana clan specialized in laundering hundreds of millions of drug dollars), and transnational criminal holdings, and the five decades of narcotics dealings.

I cannot comprehend this article--it is scary sitting here by myself at home reading this.  I had never seen this article before.

It's mind boggling for sure...even if it's from 1997. it's still shocking!!

Yes, this article is the one that Aruba hates to admit exists.  It is well researched and documented and a group of us have discussed it since the first few days following Natalee's disappearance.

If there is not a copy of it in the documents section here at Scared Monkeys there should be one.  It helps keep the focus on the central reason why nat's case has not been solved.  it is a reminder that Aruba's history is as black as Organized Crime can make it.  It is not window dressing -- it is based on documented facts and evidence and some pretty darn good journalistic research.

In the early days of the disappearance some of us brought this fact up on other sites (RWV) and ere mocked and criticized to even suggest that a "conspiracy" of such enormity could possibly exist, let alone be connected somehow to Nat's demise.  Now, two and a half years later following obvious coverups, hangings, beheadings, etc., etc. people are now starting to wake up to see that Aruba is still toxic from it's past -- and made even more toxic since it is much more sophisticated in it's possible underworld conduit.

I still say to focus on the Judges and on the Ministry including the very top level(s) of government and you will find the truth to what really happened, who as responsible, and where she (Nat) might actually be.

As Private Eye says -- there is true power in your collective keyboards and you can use your knowledge, hunches and all other resources to properly solve this case.

[Observer]

Looks as though Sporter has had a loooooong streak of that ole BAD luck!


 

Klaas,
would that be just his online losses?  Pretty steep for unemployed college freshman.

I think he is up $9400 on the one sight.

He had that one big win at party poker the day before he was arrested. But I dont see it in his winnings.

AANOTILTKK            114   $8     $55     0%   $893     -   Party Poker      x
ANGRYSHARK68            32   -$12     $30     -45%   -$388     Super Tilt   PokerStars      x   x
joran9            160   $0     $24     -15%   -$72     -   iPoker      x
joran_sloot            1   -$22     $20     -100%   -$22     -   Party Poker   

Sites this user plays on
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    PokerStars angryshark68 [Verified]
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    UltimateBet angryshark68 [Verified]
http://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/joran_sloot

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http://nl.pokernews.com/nieuws/2007/4/poker-buitenlands-nieuws-results-online20apr.htm

joran_sloot uit Arnhem als 4e ($183) Een andere Amsterdammer Classicrun bleef steken op de 8e plaats.

Roughly translated:

joran_sloot arnhem as 4e ($183) another amsterdammer Classicrun stayed away twinges at 8th the place.

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Kenny Rogers 
http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=D8o6Os0xQf8

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[SunnyinTX]

It's mind boggling for sure...even if it's from 1997. it's still shocking!!

Yes, this article is the one that Aruba hates to admit exists.  It is well researched and documented and a group of us have discussed it since the first few days following Natalee's disappearance.

If there is not a copy of it in the documents section here at Scared Monkeys there should be one.  It helps keep the focus on the central reason why nat's case has not been solved.  it is a reminder that Aruba's history is as black as Organized Crime can make it.  It is not window dressing -- it is based on documented facts and evidence and some pretty darn good journalistic research.

In the early days of the disappearance some of us brought this fact up on other sites (RWV) and ere mocked and criticized to even suggest that a "conspiracy" of such enormity could possibly exist, let alone be connected somehow to Nat's demise.  Now, two and a half years later following obvious coverups, hangings, beheadings, etc., etc. people are now starting to wake up to see that Aruba is still toxic from it's past -- and made even more toxic since it is much more sophisticated in it's possible underworld conduit.

I still say to focus on the Judges and on the Ministry including the very top level(s) of government and you will find the truth to what really happened, who as responsible, and where she (Nat) might actually be.

As Private Eye says -- there is true power in your collective keyboards and you can use your knowledge, hunches and all other resources to properly solve this case.

This just makes what I have been thinking more and more plausible.....I think Mos DOES have the evidence he said he did...and I think someone got to him...who I don't know..I think he was ordered, threatened, whatever to back down. To lose whatever he had.  When Vinda was interviewed she was SURE he had the goods...she stated that it had to be NEW and incriminating evidence for a judge in the NL to order the pervert held and transported to hell island.....she also said it was more difficult, as the standards were higher in the NL, to hold someone on suspicion.....I have gone over and over all this and I really think this is what happened...I think Mos was forced to NOT show the evidence....to look like a fool....

[ldstlou]

Looks as though Sporter has had a loooooong streak of that ole BAD luck!


 

Klaas,
would that be just his online losses?  Pretty steep for unemployed college freshman.

I think he is up $9400 on the one sight.

He had that one big win at party poker the day before he was arrested. But I dont see it in his winnings.

AANOTILTKK            114   $8     $55     0%   $893     -   Party Poker      x
ANGRYSHARK68            32   -$12     $30     -45%   -$388     Super Tilt   PokerStars      x   x
joran9            160   $0     $24     -15%   -$72     -   iPoker      x
joran_sloot            1   -$22     $20     -100%   -$22     -   Party Poker   

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I just added the wins minus the buy ins and it was about $9400 in wins on that sight. His losses on other sights would reduce that amount of course.

[robots]

a couple of things

1. joran is a terrible poker player, is it any wonder he and paulus have to cheat at casino's           

2. joran is as bad at POKER as he is at telling lies -- horrendous

3. joran's grade will be horrible... too much losing at poker not enough hitting the books... instead of hitting books, he prefers to hit young girls and killing them

4. joran will run into someone that will take care of him one of these days
it aint a guess... its a promise

 

[robots]

many times the "WINS" at the poker sites are not real cold hard cash..
its just a way to buy into a tournament with phoney money on a future date

in other words,,, joran could not get 9000.00 in cash from one of those sites

Nawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.. he sucks at poker

even a blind squirrel finds a few nuts once in awhile 

[SunnyinTX]

a couple of things

1. joran is a terrible poker player, is it any wonder he and paulus have to cheat at casino's           

2. joran is as bad at POKER as he is at telling lies -- horrendous

3. joran's grade will be horrible... too much losing at poker not enough hitting the books... instead of hitting books, he prefers to hit young girls and killing them

4. joran will run into someone that will take care of him one of these days
it aint a guess... its a promise

 

I agree robots...he and the k2's are going to walk around the rest of their lives wondering who might be around the next corner...waiting for them

[ldstlou]

a couple of things

1. joran is a terrible poker player, is it any wonder he and paulus have to cheat at casino's           

2. joran is as bad at POKER as he is at telling lies -- horrendous

3. joran's grade will be horrible... too much losing at poker not enough hitting the books... instead of hitting books, he prefers to hit young girls and killing them

4. joran will run into someone that will take care of him one of these days
it aint a guess... its a promise

 

you know I have nothing but disgust for the sporter and bigsloot, but it is not easy to cheat at a casino and you give these two waaaay to much credit if you think they can cheat a casino!!!

[robots]

in a nutshell JORAN sucks