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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #703 12/8/2007
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Quote from: private eye on December 10, 2007, 12:29:34 PM
HS 06/04/05
Q: I would like to do a reading on the disappearance of Natalee Holloway on the island of Aruba. Please give me something to bring some closure for those who are grieving...
This is quite an interesting piece nanandjim. Now, let me apologize for the length of my reply, I find the mystery surrounding Natalee’s disappearance unsettling and intriguing.
From the psychic: “She was drugged with a local ecstasy substitute… The other men left and she hardly noticed… The white male repeated raped…. her. She was innocent to some of this and became hysterical.... So Natalee was taken on the fishing boat out to sea by someone who knew the white male and was called at about 3:30AM… The boat has blue somewhat scrolled writing on the back . It lists or slants in the water to the left somewhat when viewed from behind as it sits in the water at the public marina… a local man drove the boat straight out from the marina at about 35 mph for 32 minutes…he weighted and pushed her body overboard…Natalee has found some peace after the traumatic act. She is deeply regretful about the agony it is causing everyone (especially her mother) but what is done is done. Her body may never be found.”
This reading is pretty eerie. It is hauntingly similar to
a tip posted to an Aruba forum within 5 days of Natalee's disappearance
, though the tip refers to the 2 security guards held early on in the investigation. In Post 28 of thread part #2, Kahskye referred to a board (which is now closed). The link, I assume, lead to this post which was included in Reply 28:
“bakabl wrote:Frist Im vary sorry to hear of the vary sad case of Natalee Holloway in such a wonderful place like Aruba but it could happen anywere at any time. There are a few questions that need to be asked of the two men that the FBI are questioning - 1st ask them about the drink that was given to Natalee around 3:15am Aruba Time the morring Natalee never retyrn to her hotel and ask them about what the drug was in the drink that Natalee drunk without her knowing. 2nd ask them about the boat and the 2-1/2 mile trip they took. They should break dowm and tell the truth about are were Natalee can be found.”
???????????????
The date of that post by bakabl, as I posted earlier, was early in the case. The reference to the 2 held (security guards) is curious mixed in with the details mentioned AND the psychics reading. Crazy but who knows???
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #703 12/8/2007
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Quote from: MumInOhio on December 10, 2007, 12:24:17 PM
Thanks NYC_lover....no hurry. I can't seem to find out much about these Judges back in 2005, or now for that matter. A lot of web pages in Dutch, so maybe I'm missing it! You would think there would be some reference other than the blogs!
You are welcome MumInOhio!
Well, I don't read many blogs. I have no idea about or there is stay information about Judges in blogs.
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I am glad hear this media attention from the Netherlands. ‘Recherche verdraait informatie te vaak’
Investigators in a black breach and again a bad name of the Dutch police. It smells again to Corrpution and a negative researching in missing persons cases
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #703 12/8/2007
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Just found this snooping around....
ARUBA CRIMINAL LAW
November 26th, 2007
Holloway case raises questions
I received several questions from US news channels about the legal system of Aruba. Basic information can be found on this official website: click here.
From another source (about Dutch law, to a large extent similar to Aruban law): The criminal justice legal process is divided into pretrial and trial phases. In the pretrial phase, intrusive measures such as telephone taps, searches of the person or premises are conducted to secure evidence. This is tempered through the provision of an attorney and notification to the suspect of the development of the case. The trial phase can be described as an accusatorial process. The purpose of the trial is to discover the truth. The court trial lacks some elements of a purely adversarial process in that while it is the judge who asks questions at the trial, attorneys are only allowed to ask supplementary questions, cross-examination does not exist.
All prohibited acts are classified either as crimes or felonies (misdrijven), infractions or transgressions (overtredingen). The legislature determines whether an offense constitutes a crime or an infraction. Imprisonment is only imposed for serious crimes. The minimum sentence is 1 day, the maximum is 15 years. Murder sentences can be extended to 20 years. A life sentence may be imposed for murder or manslaughter with aggravating circumstances, although this is rare. The statutory limitation for serious crimes like murder is 15 years.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #703 12/8/2007
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Quote from: Nut44x4 on December 10, 2007, 12:40:43 PM
Quote from: MumInOhio on December 10, 2007, 12:24:17 PM
Thanks NYC_lover....no hurry. I can't seem to find out much about these Judges back in 2005, or now for that matter. A lot of web pages in Dutch, so maybe I'm missing it! You would think there would be some reference other than the blogs!
Have you checked in Curacao? Seems most travel in from there
No, I didn't have check in Curacao. I know many judges come for cases, from Curacao to Aruba. That is because Curacao is greater then Aruba. And Curacao is the head island from the Dutch Antilles.
And when there is something more, what someone want to know about Curacao, please ask.
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I am glad hear this media attention from the Netherlands. ‘Recherche verdraait informatie te vaak’
Investigators in a black breach and again a bad name of the Dutch police. It smells again to Corrpution and a negative researching in missing persons cases
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ok...I have seen posted one of the links in the above....not the other one though.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #703 12/8/2007
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Quote from: NYC_lover on December 10, 2007, 12:42:07 PM
Quote from: MumInOhio on December 10, 2007, 12:24:17 PM
Thanks NYC_lover....no hurry. I can't seem to find out much about these Judges back in 2005, or now for that matter. A lot of web pages in Dutch, so maybe I'm missing it! You would think there would be some reference other than the blogs!
You are welcome MumInOhio!
Well, I don't read many blogs. I have no idea about or there is stay information about Judges in blogs.
Thanks again...NYC_lover, I don't read any blogs, but when I search for Judge Smid, it tells me to go to scared monkeys and read something that has been written here by some of us. I want to know when he was born and where, where he went to school, and where he lived and worked and when... that type of thing and I can't find it. I will keep looking....Thanks
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #703 12/8/2007
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Quote from: MumInOhio on December 10, 2007, 12:55:49 PM
Thanks again...NYC_lover, I don't read any blogs, but when I search for Judge Smid, it tells me to go to scared monkeys and read something that has been written here by some of us. I want to know when he was born and where, where he went to school, and where he lived and worked and when... that type of thing and I can't find it. I will keep looking....Thanks
You are welcome. I want looking for it also. What is the first name for Smid? I can't more remember. I only know named a judge Bob de Wit. When I am correct.
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I am glad hear this media attention from the Netherlands. ‘Recherche verdraait informatie te vaak’
Investigators in a black breach and again a bad name of the Dutch police. It smells again to Corrpution and a negative researching in missing persons cases
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #703 12/8/2007
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Rick, I think...probably Richard. Rick=nickname ... usually.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #703 12/8/2007
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http://www.caribbeancourtofjustice.org/default.htm
Lots of links here...has this been posted recently?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #703 12/8/2007
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Quote from: MumInOhio on December 10, 2007, 12:55:49 PM
Quote from: NYC_lover on December 10, 2007, 12:42:07 PM
Quote from: MumInOhio on December 10, 2007, 12:24:17 PM
Thanks NYC_lover....no hurry. I can't seem to find out much about these Judges back in 2005, or now for that matter. A lot of web pages in Dutch, so maybe I'm missing it! You would think there would be some reference other than the blogs!
You are welcome MumInOhio!
Well, I don't read many blogs. I have no idea about or there is stay information about Judges in blogs.
Thanks again...NYC_lover, I don't read any blogs, but when I search for Judge Smid, it tells me to go to scared monkeys and read something that has been written here by some of us. I want to know when he was born and where, where he went to school, and where he lived and worked and when... that type of thing and I can't find it. I will keep looking....Thanks
Natalee's Freebirds had a nice article on the judges. My link does not work to them any more however. Last time I was able to read there without registering so I don't know what the problem is but that might be a place to look for information as they had some, at least a little, on each of the judges involved.
Someone have a current link to their site?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #703 12/8/2007
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Quote from: Nut44x4 on December 10, 2007, 01:07:04 PM
Rick, I think...probably Richard. Rick=nickname ... usually.
Ricardo maybe?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #703 12/8/2007
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Quote from: Nut44x4 on December 10, 2007, 01:07:04 PM
Rick, I think...probably Richard. Rick=nickname ... usually.
Thanks, there we go.
Rick is the second person from the right side.
http://www.kennisvoorcuracao.com/index.php?pid=18&tid=24
http://www.korps-politie-suriname.com/nieuws/nieuwsbronnen%20internationaal/archief%20nieuwsbronnen%20internationaal/2006/2006-03-nieuwsbronnen-internationaal/2006-03-nieuwsbronnen%20internationaal.htm
http://www.korps-politie-suriname.com/nieuws/nieuwsbronnen%20internationaal/archief%20nieuwsbronnen%20internationaal/2005/2005-09-nieuwsbronnen-internationaal/2005-09-nieuwsbronnen%20internationaal.htm
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I am glad hear this media attention from the Netherlands. ‘Recherche verdraait informatie te vaak’
Investigators in a black breach and again a bad name of the Dutch police. It smells again to Corrpution and a negative researching in missing persons cases
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #703 12/8/2007
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Rick Smid
Oberstaatsamwalt, Dept. of Justice,
Rotterdam, The Netherlands
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #703 12/8/2007
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Quote from: NYC_lover on December 10, 2007, 01:20:16 PM
Quote from: Nut44x4 on December 10, 2007, 01:07:04 PM
Rick, I think...probably Richard. Rick=nickname ... usually.
Thanks, there we go.
Rick is the second person from the right side.
http://www.kennisvoorcuracao.com/index.php?pid=18&tid=24
http://www.korps-politie-suriname.com/nieuws/nieuwsbronnen%20internationaal/archief%20nieuwsbronnen%20internationaal/2006/2006-03-nieuwsbronnen-internationaal/2006-03-nieuwsbronnen%20internationaal.htm
http://www.korps-politie-suriname.com/nieuws/nieuwsbronnen%20internationaal/archief%20nieuwsbronnen%20internationaal/2005/2005-09-nieuwsbronnen-internationaal/2005-09-nieuwsbronnen%20internationaal.htm
He looks a bit like Jimmah Cahtah.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #703 12/8/2007
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Hey,
Nut44X4
.....been trying to check out pics on 96.5 website recalling your post noting 'zero' pics for CnC, Bahia, etc. No luck, and just a few minutes ago got this:
Coppermine critical error:
Unable to connect to database !
MySQL said: Lost connection to MySQL server during query
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[/quote]
Thanks again...NYC_lover, I don't read any blogs, but when I search for Judge Smid, it tells me to go to scared monkeys and read something that has been written here by some of us. I want to know when he was born and where, where he went to school, and where he lived and worked and when... that type of thing and I can't find it. I will keep looking....Thanks
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mom, you might get what you need from wikipedia. you can't take anything there as gospel but there might be leads.
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Quote from: Anna on December 10, 2007, 01:15:45 PM
Quote from: Nut44x4 on December 10, 2007, 01:07:04 PM
Rick, I think...probably Richard. Rick=nickname ... usually.
Ricardo maybe?
.
Looks like it is plain ole' Rick.
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Candles & prayers for Natalee:
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=NAH
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #703 12/8/2007
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Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on December 10, 2007, 01:31:02 PM
Hey,
Nut44X4
.....been trying to check out pics on 96.5 website recalling your post noting 'zero' pics for CnC, Bahia, etc. No luck, and just a few minutes ago got this:
Coppermine critical error:
Unable to connect to database !
MySQL said: Lost connection to MySQL server during query
This is the link I use and I got in there early this morning and photos were up and I didn't find anything interesting. Now the link won't open.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #703 12/8/2007
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Quote from: Nut44x4 on December 10, 2007, 01:39:29 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on December 10, 2007, 01:31:02 PM
Hey,
Nut44X4
.....been trying to check out pics on 96.5 website recalling your post noting 'zero' pics for CnC, Bahia, etc. No luck, and just a few minutes ago got this:
Coppermine critical error:
Unable to connect to database !
MySQL said: Lost connection to MySQL server during query
This is the link I use and I got in there early this morning and photos were up and I didn't find anything interesting. Now the link won't open.
Seems something is broken on their end, I guess.
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I expect a miracle _Peaches ~ ~ May She Rest In Peace.
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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Current Events and Musings
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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