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Re: Ocean Search - Aruba - December 2007
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I came across this site and scanned it for information about disposal at sea, may not be helpful but
eerie
for sure....
http://revelation13.net/KingJames2c.html
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
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Re: Ocean Search - Aruba - December 2007
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Better views
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h294/gummy_2006/lookingfromlighthouse.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a118/kath8700/arurocks.gif
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a118/kath8700/arurocks1.gif
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Joran van der Sloot:
One day, I will explain exactly what happened, but, right now, I don’t feel ready to do that.
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Not sure about this site either Kyle but here it is....
{{removed link - this site and person is very anti Natalee and family}}
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Ocean Search - Aruba - December 2007
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http://arubanboycott.blogspot.com/2007/10/what-does-art-wood-know-what-will-be.html
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Ocean Search - Aruba - December 2007
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OE,
Another person besides the Gottenbo's that had a boat is Lorenzo Van Rijn. He was questioned at least twice in the beginning of the case and several people from Aruba said he was involved in the very beginning before the dis-information campaign went into full gear. It is rumored that he is close to the Van Der Sloots and perhaps even related. Most everything about him was only discussed on the blogs and not MSM and he was reportedly arrested as a witness and not a suspect,so much speculation and debate. He is either 100% Mis-Information or is involved in some way. I believe he is involved and so do many others. Nobody is certain what his involvement may be if any but it's possible he helped in getting rid of Natalee.
There is a thread just on him from post's mostly from Arubans in June/July 2005. I do not want top steer you in the wrong direction but much of what we heard about him became true and the rest is still to be determined. Most of the online researchers/bloggers here that have followed this case since the very beginning think he may be involved in some way. This thread wont tell you where Natalee is,it just explains why so many are suspicious of his involvement. It was reported/rumored that his boat and mothers house were searched in the beginning.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1291.0
If I were searching for Natalee I would definetly keep in mind Savaneta,Grapefield Beach and the Colony Area a few miles out if nothing panned out on the NW and NE tip of the island. As i posted previously,very suspicious items were found in those areas on June 5th and 6th 2005. The Grapefield Beach bloody mattress was probably left there because it was in a desolate area and not a launch area. The Colony area where the security shirt was found and a few miles out to sea from where Lorenzo launches his boat,would be the two areas I would search after the Northern tip of the island.
Article on items found in colony area a week after NH went missing
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa118/Observer00000007/Evidencefoundincolony.jpg
Lorenzo is said to have a cigarette boat and this area would be the closest to his home which is just a bit inland of the savaneta coast.
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Re: Ocean Search - Aruba - December 2007
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oceanexploration ... when the observation of the landfill witness is taken into consideration ... is it possible ... if Natalee Holloway was taken out to sea ... the area could have been the east side of the Island and ... not on the morning or evening of the day she went missing?
May God bless the efforts of all those on the Persistence.
Janet
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ON THE MORNING OF MAY 30, 2005 ... A DECEASED NATALEE IS PLACED IN A WHITE PICKUP.
Jossy Mansur
NANCY GRACE
July 29, 2005
GRACE: OK. Jossy, is there any way to tie in a white pick-up to this scenario?
MANSUR: Yes, ma`am, because there`s another witness that, before that, told someone that works at the hotels that he saw a white pick-up over there by the Holiday Inn, in which three persons were also in, all of them male, carrying what looked like the body of a girl, putting it in the back of the white pick-up and driving away with it.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0507/29/ng.01.html
ON THE MORNING OF MAY 30, 2005 ... THERE IS A RUMORED 6:30 AM CALL FROM ONE OF THE SUSPECTS CELL IN THE SANTA LUCIA AREA OF THE ISLAND AND ... JORAN IS ALLEGEDLY PICKED UP BY THE SCHOOL BUS NEAR THE HOME OF LORENZO VAN RIJN.
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On Natalee's Yahoo forum there there is a report that a helicopter is searching Santa Lucia area because according to the cell phone records of one of the three suspects there was a call in the Santa Lucia area at 6:30 am the morning Natalee was to have met up with the group to leave for airport.
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/week24/
Greta Van Susteren
On the Record w/ Greta
July 3, 2005
SUSTEREN: .... I am also curious whether Paul van der Sloot used his phone between midnight and 7 a.m. on May 30. He told me no... he told the Dutch TV correspondent on camera no... but after the interview with the Dutch TV correspondent, he pulled him aside and said maybe he did make a call and that he was not sure.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,161474,00.html
Dave Holloway
Question and Answer Chat - BFN
January 23, 2006
14. Why was the school bus driver called the next morning and told to pick up Joran at Lorenzo's house?
DAVE: Joran was allegedly dropped off at a bus stop on the main highway. The bus driver had not made it there yet and saved Paulus about 30 minutes. Lorenzo's house was nearby.
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forum/index.php?topic=2256.0
ON JUNE 1, 2005 ... NATALEE'S REMAINS ARE OBSERVED BY JUNIOR BEING TAKEN FROM A WHITE PICKUP AND PLACED IN THE LANDFILL.
Jossy Mansur
NANCY GRACE
July 29, 2005
MANSUR: … But it`s very important to note that the witness on the beach by the Holiday Inn has absolutely no knowledge of the witness over there to the east side of the island by the landfill or dump. They don't know each other, but still they give the same description of the same white pick-up.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0507/29/ng.01.html
Susan Candiotti - Cnn Correspondent
NANCY GRACE
July 29, 2005
CANDIOTTI:his same witness claims to have told police that he saw a vehicle and was able to provide a tag number to police. I am told that this is a registered car in Aruba, but I can`t tell you more than that.
JUNIOR CONVEYS HIS OBSERVATION TO HIS BROTHER WHO ... ON JUNE 3, 2005 ... CONVEYS THE ACCOUNT TO THE ARUBAN AUTHORITIES.
Tim Miller
CBS NEWS
July 30, 2005
The witness told his brother what he saw soon afterward, and the brother told police, he said.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/07/31/world/main712950.shtml?source=search_story
Edwin Comenencia
Associated Press
August 1, 2005
Police spokesman Edwin Comenencia said police searched the landfill after receiving the tip days after Holloway's disappearance May 30th, but found nothing.
http://www.wtvynews4.com/home/headlines/1756907.html
COULD JUNIOR'S OBSERVATION IMPLIES THAT THE "POWERS THAT BE" IN THE COVERUP REMOVED NATALEE'S REMAINS FROM THE LANDFILL AND ... SHE WAS BURIED OR ... TAKEN OUT TO SEA OR ... BOTH.
Tim Miller
RED - SCARED MONKEYS
July 24, 2005
RED: There have been reports that a shallow grave was discovered in the area of Boca Tortuga, on the eastern part of the island. There are also reports that cell-phone calls made by Joran earlyin the morning came from a location on the eastern side of the island. It seems plausible that thisarea could yield more clues
TIM MILLER: We found a site that we feel as though was a possible gravesite. Our thoughts are that Natalee may have been buried in that hole for 1 or 2 days then moved. We have information that the cell phones were possibly being used in that area
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/07/24/interview-transcript-with-tim-miller-july-24th-2005/
Dave Holloway
NANCY GRACE
April 24, 2006
GRACE: Well, Dave Holloway, aren`t there logs and isn`t there surveillance in place in Aruba of all the ships that go out of the tiny island, even at night?
HOLLOWAY: Well, there is but on one of those nights, I think it was June the 7th or June the 8th, the electricity went out on the island for about two hours so you wonder if that would have been the prime opportunity to do it. Small boats, I don`t think, can be picked up as well as the big ones.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/24/ng.01.html
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Re: Ocean Search - Aruba - December 2007
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OE,
I've spent hours reading in various forums (man, am I thankful for this website!) trying to scan for any posts regarding her being taken out to sea and just didn't find anything worth sending. There are some really sick people in this world.... An anonymous poster on the Joren Van Der Sloot Blog said that there were five in the boat including Natalee and that "Koen and Cores were familiar the coastal waters surrounding Aruba and knew what they were doing. Cores picked the deepest drop off point which was between the lighthouse and the Marriot Resort about five miles offshore." I'm not going to post the rest but you can read it there if your interested. I also spent some time at Brian's Predictions and a couple of other psychic sites. Brian's caught my interest because some of the things in his drawings can be connected to the case be he believes she's alive in Columbia with JJ and has a baby, he believes possibly in the same place Amy Bradley was taken. Although a couple of the psychics believe she is not alive, I didn't find anything that gives a clue as to what area to search in. I was a little too spooked to listen to the backwards recordings at the "coffeepot" website, I was actually afraid at that point of what I might hear
I'm sorry I couldn't find much for you this evening, but I will try again tomorrow. I hope that you and the crew get some rest and that the seas are calmer for you tomorrow. Thanks again for all you guys are doing, there aren't words to express how much we truly appreciate your efforts.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Ocean Search - Aruba - December 2007
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oceanexplorer
I have compiled a paper with backup sources as well as my personal take on Junior ... the land landfill witness ... which I would be willing to share upon request.
Please ... let me know it you want me to submit this paper in a post.
How are the water conditions today? I cannot comprehend how all of you on the Persistence are not seasick 24/7.
Take care ... my continued prayers are with the crew in this huge undertaking to bring Natalee' remains home to her family ... her country.
Janet
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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X. Persistence
Update: 05-Jan-1610 hrs
The Persistence arrived dockside at 0500 hrs after a long night offshore. A few hours sitting still at the dock is revitalizing for a few of the beleaguered crew. Outside, the winds are unrelenting and whip the sea into angry white caps which crash onto the protective reef skirting the harbor. Even the heartiest seabirds have taken cover. The tourist submersible Atlantis II cancels its evening tour in lieu of being forced backwards by the driving currents. Inside, the Persistence is bustling with the daily chores of living on board a boat. With a whistle and a rumble, the twin Diesels comes alive without complaint. Once they’re warm, the lines are tossed and we’re off.
http://nholloway.blogspot.com/
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Quote from: Blonde on December 23, 2007, 10:12:45 AM
Please send this info, this was sent to me by a girl who says she can see where Natalee is I'm just passing this on
I am not one to jump into information like this so fast. The boat I see is a ‘sail boat,’ probable sunk just within the last few years.
Off a small land area that is swimmable to a main shore but far. Almost private property if that is possible in the ocean.
Finding her will not happen, finding pieces might I am sorry if that is too realistic,.
. Is she missing a bag or purse or back pack, luggage, bigger then smaller, that you will find asap.
Good luck, I feel nothing but compassion and love for the family.
If something comes to light about the man with the DARKEST hair, and his comments on his ‘high and mighty’ status.. might lead you to this area that I see.
I am not going to put any more into this unless you ask
I am not aware of the man with the Darkest Hair and his comments,can you give us more of a clue who this is?
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Re: Ocean Search - Aruba - December 2007
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 05, 2008, 02:28:21 AM
oceanexploration ... when the observation of the landfill witness is taken into consideration ... is it possible ... if Natalee Holloway was taken out to sea ... the area could have been the east side of the Island and ... not on the morning or evening of the day she went missing?
May God bless the efforts of all those on the Persistence.
Janet
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ON THE MORNING OF MAY 30, 2005 ... A DECEASED NATALEE IS PLACED IN A WHITE PICKUP.
Jossy Mansur
NANCY GRACE
July 29, 2005
GRACE: OK. Jossy, is there any way to tie in a white pick-up to this scenario?
MANSUR: Yes, ma`am, because there`s another witness that, before that, told someone that works at the hotels that he saw a white pick-up over there by the Holiday Inn, in which three persons were also in, all of them male, carrying what looked like the body of a girl, putting it in the back of the white pick-up and driving away with it.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0507/29/ng.01.html
ON THE MORNING OF MAY 30, 2005 ... THERE IS A RUMORED 6:30 AM CALL FROM ONE OF THE SUSPECTS CELL IN THE SANTA LUCIA AREA OF THE ISLAND AND ... JORAN IS ALLEGEDLY PICKED UP BY THE SCHOOL BUS NEAR THE HOME OF LORENZO VAN RIJN.
Thursday, June 16, 2005 at 04:53 AM in Natalee Holloway | Permalink | Comments (270) | TrackBack (2)
On Natalee's Yahoo forum there there is a report that a helicopter is searching Santa Lucia area because according to the cell phone records of one of the three suspects there was a call in the Santa Lucia area at 6:30 am the morning Natalee was to have met up with the group to leave for airport.
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/week24/
Greta Van Susteren
On the Record w/ Greta
July 3, 2005
SUSTEREN: .... I am also curious whether Paul van der Sloot used his phone between midnight and 7 a.m. on May 30. He told me no... he told the Dutch TV correspondent on camera no... but after the interview with the Dutch TV correspondent, he pulled him aside and said maybe he did make a call and that he was not sure.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,161474,00.html
Dave Holloway
Question and Answer Chat - BFN
January 23, 2006
14. Why was the school bus driver called the next morning and told to pick up Joran at Lorenzo's house?
DAVE: Joran was allegedly dropped off at a bus stop on the main highway. The bus driver had not made it there yet and saved Paulus about 30 minutes. Lorenzo's house was nearby.
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forum/index.php?topic=2256.0
ON JUNE 1, 2005 ... NATALEE'S REMAINS ARE OBSERVED BY JUNIOR BEING TAKEN FROM A WHITE PICKUP AND PLACED IN THE LANDFILL.
Jossy Mansur
NANCY GRACE
July 29, 2005
MANSUR: … But it`s very important to note that the witness on the beach by the Holiday Inn has absolutely no knowledge of the witness over there to the east side of the island by the landfill or dump. They don't know each other, but still they give the same description of the same white pick-up.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0507/29/ng.01.html
Susan Candiotti - Cnn Correspondent
NANCY GRACE
July 29, 2005
CANDIOTTI:his same witness claims to have told police that he saw a vehicle and was able to provide a tag number to police. I am told that this is a registered car in Aruba, but I can`t tell you more than that.
JUNIOR CONVEYS HIS OBSERVATION TO HIS BROTHER WHO ... ON JUNE 3, 2005 ... CONVEYS THE ACCOUNT TO THE ARUBAN AUTHORITIES.
Tim Miller
CBS NEWS
July 30, 2005
The witness told his brother what he saw soon afterward, and the brother told police, he said.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/07/31/world/main712950.shtml?source=search_story
Edwin Comenencia
Associated Press
August 1, 2005
Police spokesman Edwin Comenencia said police searched the landfill after receiving the tip days after Holloway's disappearance May 30th, but found nothing.
http://www.wtvynews4.com/home/headlines/1756907.html
COULD JUNIOR'S OBSERVATION IMPLIES THAT THE "POWERS THAT BE" IN THE COVERUP REMOVED NATALEE'S REMAINS FROM THE LANDFILL AND ... SHE WAS BURIED OR ... TAKEN OUT TO SEA OR ... BOTH.
Tim Miller
RED - SCARED MONKEYS
July 24, 2005
RED:
There have been reports that a shallow grave was discovered in the area of Boca Tortuga, on the eastern part of the island
. There are also reports that cell-phone calls made by Joran earlyin the morning came from a location on the eastern side of the island. It seems plausible that thisarea could yield more clues
TIM MILLER: We found a site that we feel as though was a possible gravesite. Our thoughts are that Natalee may have been buried in that hole for 1 or 2 days then moved. We have information that the cell phones were possibly being used in that area
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/07/24/interview-transcript-with-tim-miller-july-24th-2005/
Dave Holloway
NANCY GRACE
April 24, 2006
GRACE: Well, Dave Holloway, aren`t there logs and isn`t there surveillance in place in Aruba of all the ships that go out of the tiny island, even at night?
HOLLOWAY: Well, there is but on one of those nights, I think it was June the 7th or June the 8th, the electricity went out on the island for about two hours so you wonder if that would have been the prime opportunity to do it. Small boats, I don`t think, can be picked up as well as the big ones.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/24/ng.01.html
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2006/06/18/what-did-the-aruba-park-ranger-pick-up-at-boca-tortuga-area-fabric-that-matched-natalees-top/
What did the Aruba Park Ranger pick up at
Boca Tortuga
area? Fabric that matched Natalee’s Top?
What ever happened to this material? Why didn’t the media camera man take a close up of what so closely resembled the green fabric of Natalee’s top? One would have thought that they would have zoomed right in to see what had been collected.
On Sunday, July 17, 2005 the park rangers found the duct tape with long blonde hair in the Boca Tortuga area of Aruba. A park ranger being video’d walking around picks up a piece of fabric that matches Natalee’s top.
The question still remains today, what ever happened to this evidence that was collected? We also need to remember that this material that was found washed ashore following the hurricanes that took place last summer. It is highly possibly that the material washed ashore from another location on the island or from out at sea.
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View images at:
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2006/06/18/what-did-the-aruba-park-ranger-pick-up-at-boca-tortuga-area-fabric-that-matched-natalees-top/
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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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Re: Ocean Search - Aruba - December 2007
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Quote from: ******* on January 05, 2008, 05:02:02 PM
Quote from: Blonde on December 23, 2007, 10:12:45 AM
Please send this info, this was sent to me by a girl who says she can see where Natalee is I'm just passing this on
I am not one to jump into information like this so fast. The boat I see is a ‘sail boat,’ probable sunk just within the last few years.
Off a small land area that is swimmable to a main shore but far. Almost private property if that is possible in the ocean.
Finding her will not happen, finding pieces might I am sorry if that is too realistic,.
. Is she missing a bag or purse or back pack, luggage, bigger then smaller, that you will find asap.
Good luck, I feel nothing but compassion and love for the family.
If something comes to light about the man with the DARKEST hair, and his comments on his ‘high and mighty’ status.. might lead you to this area that I see.
I am not going to put any more into this unless you ask
I am not aware of the man with the Darkest Hair and his comments,can you give us more of a clue who this is?
THIS WAS ALL SHE TOLD ME, MY THOUGHTS WERE DEEPAK
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http://www.underworldtales.com/aruba.htm
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Flash visions are where I see only glimpses of something and usually through symbols only, a very different form of channeling, but sometimes it can reveal important things, and I believe that my Flash visions of the Holloway case were revealing.
"Any attempts that I've made to connect during the past few weeks have not been successful. Once, I partially connected and experienced something strange. I saw only a light turquoise blue before me and felt intensely cold, and as I moved toward this coldness, it only became more intense until it was unbearable. The connection broke. Another time I saw turquoise blue again, as if I were under water. Does this mean that Natalee is under water? I'm not sure. I've felt all along that she's buried somewhere on the land, and I even saw sand. Of course, and I hate to say this, it's possible that she's not in just one place. This confusion could also stem from the possibility that the body has been moved.
This underwater area did have a cave-like look, but I don't think it was a cave, and I didn't see a trace of Natalee in it.
Could the water hold another clue? Perhaps. In a couple of days, I'll try to connect again.
A reader wrote in with this message: "Check out the area between Asahi Beach and Malmok beach as a place that they may placed her." The reader doesn't specify why he believes the body is there. I've requested more information from him. In response, he wrote back: "As per my dowsing, I feel that she may be there.
Another reader wrote:
In my vision, she is also dead. This is what I saw....She was on the beach and "they" thought she was dead, so they hid the body in a dark place. I see something that looks like the bottom of a pan with bolts around it. Maybe a water main or something. She awakes and knows something is wrong. She breaks off her ankle bracelet with her other foot to leave a clue. During this time she is thinking sharply. I see her hand reaching out to scratch a message but she fall unconscious again. Then the vision goes to pink flags. Like on a boat. And I see a dab of purple, like a dogwood blossom. The vision changes again. I see shaved ice, I feel cold and I smell a strong odor of seafood. I think her body is on a boat. Well, that was my vision.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Ocean Search - Aruba - December 2007
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A reliable friend sent me this a few hours ago...thought you might find this interesting. I have read it before, but what the heck...let's read it again.
OK I know most of the so called psychics are never accurate about Natalee's case.
However, look at this map of Renaissance Island:
http://hotels.about.com/od/aruba/ig/Pictures-of-Renaissance-Aruba/Map-of-the-Renaissance-Aruba.htm
Note the left part of the island has 9 trees drawn on it.
Then read this couple's review of Renaissance Island
http://www.aruba-travelguide.com/hotels/read_review.html?REVIEW_ID=288
<snip>
A little side note also, on the adult side (right side-with Flamingo's) off to the far right point, which you can walk out to--about 20-30 yards directly off the point is a sunken ship! Most people didn't even know this, however my wife and I ventured out and found it after reading extensive reviews all over the web. It's really cool and there are tons of fish. There's a part of the boat that is parallel with the water, and you can actually stand up on it as it's only about 2 feet under water! (this is about 30 yards out, so it looks very cool from the beach) The ship was about 100 yards or more long, and there are octopus, Morray eels etc.
I know it sounds crazy but what better place to hide a body than in plain view at a ship wreck? Most people are busy looking at the fish etc & not at what may be hidden inside the sunken ship. I know there are a lot of wrecks around Aruba & so would the locals.
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Re: Ocean Search - Aruba - December 2007
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Quote from: Dihannah1 on December 28, 2007, 01:37:09 AM
Same here Lala's. I am speechless! There are no words to describe what that crew is doing and with such selfless intentions. Not only did i feel like i was there, I WISH I was there to do anything, any little thing to make there trip more comfortable, since I don't have the skills and knowledge they have. What awesome people they are. They will be truly blessed. And thank you for the video, it was touching and heartfelt. I not only pray for there success for Natalee's return, but for there trip to not be in vain!
You took the thoughts right out of my head.
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Re: Ocean Search - Aruba - December 2007
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Quote from: Kat_Gram on January 02, 2008, 12:33:51 AM
I don't know who is doing the writing on the search blog, but they are the kind of people I would like to know. That quote by Longfellow is so, I don't even know what, it gave me chills. I know that these ppl are professional and mostly technicians, but they are also really good writers and have so much heart and empathy. When the search is over, no matter how it turns out, I would like to hear more from them. Their desciptions are poetic.
I agree. There's a frustrated English major in there somewhere. I hope he continues to write, on a blog or somewhere. The Longfellow quote for me brought to mind the quote Ronald Reagan used about the Challenger crew having "slipped the surly bonds of earth to touch the face of God". Wonderful imagery.
It's a wonderful thing the Persistence is doing. God bless them. My prayers are with them.
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Re: Ocean Search - Aruba - December 2007
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Quote from: texasmom on January 04, 2008, 11:47:50 PM
Hi Kyle,
I'm posting any disposal at sea theory/timeline that I can find as I find them. I hope I can find something that will help. We appreciate all of your hard work and dedication to finding Natalee.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12040436/
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“But what if Natalee was not buried, but somehow dropped in the water off the lighthouse? Dompig suggests that tests have been conducted that show a body dumped in the ocean surrounding the island would float back to shore. But there has been no discussion as to what would happen to a body if it was weighted down. Additionally, Dompig’s says that every local boat that was in the water the night Natalee disappeared has been accounted for. Anyway, any boat that went out two miles or more, something that many find hard to believe.”
Email Clint at
CVZ@msnbc.com
Hodges Thoughtprint Timeline link:
http://forensicthoughtprints.com/natalee-holloway-watery-grave.html
What night did Natalee disappear? Sunday night when she left C&C with J2K? That included early Monday morning. Is that the 'night' all the 'local' boats were accounted for?
What about Monday night/early Tuesday morning prior to the encounter with the Twitty's at the VDS home?
I think there are at least two nights of interest - Sunday/Monday and Monday/Tuesday.
When did Natalee disappear?
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Re: Ocean Search - Aruba - December 2007
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Just a few words to the Crew Members of The Persistence...Please Know that Our Thoughts and Prayers are with You and that We have All the Faith in the World in You All. Miracles are in the Making and You All are the Angels on Earth Making the Miracles Happen for the Precious Angel Natalee....There are Just Not Enough Words to Thank You for What You are Doing.....God Bless Each and Every One of You. PC
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Re: Ocean Search - Aruba - December 2007
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Quote from: Blonde on January 05, 2008, 07:19:47 PM
Quote from: ******* on January 05, 2008, 05:02:02 PM
Quote from: Blonde on December 23, 2007, 10:12:45 AM
Please send this info, this was sent to me by a girl who says she can see where Natalee is I'm just passing this on
I am not one to jump into information like this so fast. The boat I see is a ‘sail boat,’ probable sunk just within the last few years.
Off a small land area that is swimmable to a main shore but far. Almost private property if that is possible in the ocean.
Finding her will not happen, finding pieces might I am sorry if that is too realistic,.
. Is she missing a bag or purse or back pack, luggage, bigger then smaller, that you will find asap.
Good luck, I feel nothing but compassion and love for the family.
If something comes to light about the man with the DARKEST hair, and his comments on his ‘high and mighty’ status.. might lead you to this area that I see.
I am not going to put any more into this unless you ask
I am not aware of the man with the Darkest Hair and his comments,can you give us more of a clue who this is?
THIS WAS ALL SHE TOLD ME, MY THOUGHTS WERE DEEPAK
She also said she saw trees maybe 5 and one was different and she was by the tree that was different if this is possible.
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Re: Ocean Search - Aruba - December 2007
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No word from Kyle in a few days. I do hope everything is all right with the crew and ship. We are sending prayers for all of you. Please post when you can Kyle.
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