Natalee Case Discussion #704 12/11 - 12/18/2007

[private eye]

I've only got one fault with the Monkeys and its that damn cook book. I have now gained 30 lbs since we got our copy:))))))))

[Lala'sMom]

pg.52/Aruba

(The motel next to the VIP club)

We also heard that this might be the place where a friend of Joran's, Freddy Alexander Zedan-Arambatzis, was alleged to have taken lewd pictures of a minor girl. He has denied the charge, but his lawyer says he admits he was present when photos of the girl in "tempting poses" were taken.

Is Dave saying Freddy worked there?  What was the name of this hotel? Anyone? TIA

Thanks CBB. I appreciate it...hope you feel better. Make your evil twin fix you some tea.

[Anna]

What are the odds of someone who just happens to look just like Paulus, dress like Paulus, have a watch like Paulus, slump like Paulus parking their keester beside Natalee the night she disappeared?

And yet Joran expects us to believe that crap.  No wonder he is such a bad poker player.  He has no concept of the laws of probability.

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[Frank]

*******,

What a sobering interview. Geez, he is so understated. No mention of corruption or coverup?

This remains a fascinating and important story and Greta and Tacopina are succeeding in making is a farce.

[Helen Back]

*******,

What a sobering interview. Geez, he is so understated. No mention of corruption or coverup?

This remains a fascinating and important story and Greta and Tacopina are succeeding in making is a farce.

Yes it still is fascinating and important.  Beth and Dave remain so quiet and watchful.  I guess they are finding out who is truly in their corner and who is a ratings whore.  I hope they never give Gertie another interview.

[Anna]

The fix was done within the first 48 hours.  Everything since then has been PR spin machine.  Massive effort with professionals guiding their every move.  No wonder they don't have any money, they spent it all of crap like this.

If they have those choller houses to keep the druggies away from the tourists, it is no wonder they would do some elaborate spin on all this.

But I do believe it was government orchestrated.  And the decoys hit the streets by Tuesday after Natalee disappeared.  Think about the change that came over some of the players like Paulus.  He knew help was on the way all the way from The Hague. 

Just like Beth, we never stood a chance at getting the truth with fifty stories for every question we asked.  Bamboozling us from the get go. All of them.  Otherwise, they remained silent.

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[crazybabyborg]

pg.52/Aruba

(The motel next to the VIP club)

We also heard that this might be the place where a friend of Joran's, Freddy Alexander Zedan-Arambatzis, was alleged to have taken lewd pictures of a minor girl. He has denied the charge, but his lawyer says he admits he was present when photos of the girl in "tempting poses" were taken.

Is Dave saying Freddy worked there?  What was the name of this hotel? Anyone? TIA

Thanks CBB. I appreciate it...hope you feel better. Make your evil twin fix you some tea.

Lala's, Dave doesn't say, but it's where he met the "Psychic Buddhist", at the VIP club. Is this the Lion's Den? Wait and I'll post the description.

[crazybabyborg]

Pg. 52/Aruba

On a later trip to Aruba, I told Detectives Eric Soemers and Dennis Jacobs about the Buddhist my sister and I had met at the VIP Club. I was told it was a whorehouse where you pay by the hour. I did not know if that meant you bring your own girl or they furnish one.
The motel has a small like structure at the front. Then, there are six or seven rooms that stretch down the roadway. There were no vehicles there during daylight, but we heard that some young girls were escorted in and out of the rooms that day. We had also heard that someone had arrived that day with some sophisticated camera equipment.

[Anna]

Holloway Case Could Be Closed(Interview with JQK)

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=3597392n

Again, that 48 hours and the game was on.  Nothing after that time was the truth about anything.

This is the most disheartening interview yet.

MO

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[Observer]

*******,

What a sobering interview. Geez, he is so understated. No mention of corruption or coverup?

This remains a fascinating and important story and Greta and Tacopina are succeeding in making is a farce.

It's all very depressing He needs to find another word to use besides botched. Americans will be thinking that there were stupid mistakes made instead of intentional ones made by Paul's friends.

[Anna]

Not just Paulus friends but world class PR firms from California to Amsterdam.

No I can't prove it but that's what I think and that's what I know.

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[Lala'sMom]

Pg. 52/Aruba

On a later trip to Aruba, I told Detectives Eric Soemers and Dennis Jacobs about the Buddhist my sister and I had met at the VIP Club. I was told it was a whorehouse where you pay by the hour. I did not know if that meant you bring your own girl or they furnish one.
The motel has a small like structure at the front. Then, there are six or seven rooms that stretch down the roadway. There were no vehicles there during daylight, but we heard that some young girls were escorted in and out of the rooms that day. We had also heard that someone had arrived that day with some sophisticated camera equipment.

Of course you know this reminds me of a Shango verse?  Thanks again. So we do not know if this hotel has a name?  hmmmmm 

[crazybabyborg]

Pg. 52/Aruba

On a later trip to Aruba, I told Detectives Eric Soemers and Dennis Jacobs about the Buddhist my sister and I had met at the VIP Club. I was told it was a whorehouse where you pay by the hour. I did not know if that meant you bring your own girl or they furnish one.
The motel has a small like structure at the front. Then, there are six or seven rooms that stretch down the roadway. There were no vehicles there during daylight, but we heard that some young girls were escorted in and out of the rooms that day. We had also heard that someone had arrived that day with some sophisticated camera equipment.

Yes, it is: I went back and looked up the encounter with the Buddhist
Pg. 50
It was located on the highway, and it looked like a sleazy strip club. The windows were blackened, and there was only limited parking out front. It was connected to an Indian or Chinese Restaurant, and there was a seedy looking motel next door separated by a narrow road.

[klaasend]

Posted by Victor (Lazlo) at Scrux:

Victor



Joined: 16 Nov 2006
Posts: 43

 Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:48 am    Post subject:   

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Missing person's cases never get closed.
 

[crazybabyborg]

Klaas? There used to be an extensive website about the Lion's Den, but it's long gone for me with my computer crash. I think you have a picture of the entrance though, don't you? The restaurant shows up pretty well.

[Anna]

Posted by Victor (Lazlo) at Scrux:

Victor



Joined: 16 Nov 2006
Posts: 43

 Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:48 am    Post subject:  

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Missing person's cases never get closed.
 

San needs to work on that and change Closed to SOLVED.

How about that girl they found with looking for Natalee, a submerged car, etc.  Guess they were still looking for her, too, huh?

JQKelly has broken my heart I think.

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[Magnolia]

Pg. 52/Aruba

On a later trip to Aruba, I told Detectives Eric Soemers and Dennis Jacobs about the Buddhist my sister and I had met at the VIP Club. I was told it was a whorehouse where you pay by the hour. I did not know if that meant you bring your own girl or they furnish one.
The motel has a small like structure at the front. Then, there are six or seven rooms that stretch down the roadway. There were no vehicles there during daylight, but we heard that some young girls were escorted in and out of the rooms that day. We had also heard that someone had arrived that day with some sophisticated camera equipment.

Yes, it is: I went back and looked up the encounter with the Buddhist
Pg. 50
It was located on the highway, and it looked like a sleazy strip club. The windows were blackened, and there was only limited parking out front. It was connected to an Indian or Chinese Restaurant, and there was a seedy looking motel next door separated by a narrow road.

Remember those pictures posted here by Best Buddy and Ringo
I think it was an Indian Resturant.

[Lala'sMom]

Klaas? There used to be an extensive website about the Lion's Den, but it's long gone for me with my computer crash. I think you have a picture of the entrance though, don't you? The restaurant shows up pretty well.

I have seen those CBB..they are not in this computer I have now...Darn it!

[Anna]

Klaas? There used to be an extensive website about the Lion's Den, but it's long gone for me with my computer crash. I think you have a picture of the entrance though, don't you? The restaurant shows up pretty well.

Apparently, they have been drugging and raping and filming the tourists and locals forever and nobody cares there.  See the case of the 16 yo girl gang-raped at SCHOOL and all participants send photos via their phones and nothing.

Also remember that article on front page of Jossy's paper about elders having sex with minors in hotels that was likely filmed as well.  It's on GetaGrip's website still.

Again, instead of the massive arrests, nothing.

This kind of thing along with the trick of drugging tourists and taking them to the choller houses until they get all the money out of their accounts via ATM's is also a big nothing.

I think this is what Jug said would shock the world, that this is rampant and goes unpunished and everybody just looks the other way, too bad, so sad for the victims.  Survival of the fittest with the goons in charge, law of the jungle.

They are like some kind of primitive tribe down there.  Us against outsiders no matter what and we do as we please with the powerful doing any and everything to anybody and no one to stop them.

MO

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[GabbyG]

Anna,

The search will go on regardless of the delays.  We are going in with the purpose of finding Natalee and bringing closure to the family.  From my understanding, the delays on this end just push back the search and will not shorten it. Also, the search is not dependant on the case being open or closed.  That's not our concern.  It's all for the family.

I have never read more beautiful words then "It's all for the family". That's very rare in this case it seems, and those words are music to our ears! Thank you Ocean.
Thank you all, that can't be said enough. Bless each and every one of you who are making this possible. Be safe, and our prayers are with you for your safety and success.

I have something to ask you Ocean that might seem silly and make some of the Monkeys grin  but I have never been out on the ocean although I love to visit the coast whenever I can, I love the ocean. Is it just in the movies or do you really see things like dolphins swimming along side sometimes, and whales or the really huge sharks? (it's ok to laugh  but I just figured this was my chance to ask someone in the know if those things really DO happen!) Yes, Im a country bumpkin