Natalee Case Discussion #704 12/11 - 12/18/2007

[Magnolia]

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I know that I am dumb as a box of rocks, but I just realized that
the Persistence has a Robot to explore the ocean floor.
Like in the Titanic search.
I wonder if it is a relative of Robots?

[Nut44x4]

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I know that I am dumb as a box of rocks, but I just realized that
the Persistence has a Robot to explore the ocean floor.
Like in the Titanic search.
I wonder if it is a relative of Robots?

Perhaps it IS him, lol. I haven't seen him today

[Silverfox]

I love the image of the test they conducted. 1 meter by 1 meter crab trap -- IN CRED A BLE....

This should give the guilty a reason to shake in their boots -- it looks like the jig might be up (so to speak) 

[JuJu]

now let me show how dense I am........I don't do metrics...please convert 1 meter by 1 meter

[klaasend]

now let me show how dense I am........I don't do metrics...please convert 1 meter by 1 meter

1 meter = 1.094 yard
1 yard = 0.9144 meter

[AZSunny]

I love the image of the test they conducted. 1 meter by 1 meter crab trap -- IN CRED A BLE....

This should give the guilty a reason to shake in their boots -- it looks like the jig might be up (so to speak) 

Where did you find this picture?  thanks!

[Magnolia]

I love the image of the test they conducted. 1 meter by 1 meter crab trap -- IN CRED A BLE....

This should give the guilty a reason to shake in their boots -- it looks like the jig might be up (so to speak) 

Where did you find this picture?  thanks!

It is here:  http://nholloway.blogspot.com/
Scroll down until you see brown.

[msmarple]

Do we know who was shot this time?  And where on the premises this happened?  No crime, indeed. 

Come across on that one!

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Anthony Gomes 19 yrs old died in the parking lot outside of a nightclub. Not sure which one but they mention gang activity outside of Dakotas.

Picture of the dead guy??
http://www.bondia.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=600&Itemid=1 

I'm not sure if the below is the same incident as quoted above, but this is what the Bondia link shows --


http://www.bondia.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=600&Itemid=1

Polis herida a tira su agresor mata 
Monday, 17 December 2007 
 
ORANJESTAD –  Ayera  a sosode un caso lamentable caminda un agente policial mester a usa cu arma reglamentario pa defende su  bida, despues cu e agresor a tira riba dje. Ta asina aki cu diadomingo marduga alrededor di 2’or lo a surgi un discusion fuerte entre dos grupo na e trapi di Conga, segun testigonan.

Na dado dado momento den e discusion aki un Tercel cora ta dal para dilanti e edificio ya menciona caminda dos individuo ta baha, y ta saca un persona for di e grupo. E mesun persona aki ta bai bek den un di e gruponan caminda e discusion a sigui escala. Na dado momento e individuo ta los un tiro, ta pone capuchon di su flanel riba su cabes y a cana bai den direccion di e parkinglot di e bushalte. Mientrastanto polis a yega na e sitio y a haya un bon discripcion y den ki direccion e agresor a cana bai.
Na momento cu e agresor a ripara cu polis tabata su tras a dicidi di los tres tiro den direccion di un di e agente policial, di cua un bala ta alcanse den su man y un otro den su pecho. No ta conoci si e di tres a logra alcanse of no. Segun testigo na e sitio despues cu polis a ricibi e tres tironan aki den su direccion polis a los un tiro den direccion di e sopechoso y a alcansa e sospechoso den su cabes mortalmente. Esaki a sosode net panort di parkinglot di e busnan di Arubus.

A surgi un consternashon na e sitio, caminda tabata teme pa e polis su bida. Ya cu a sospecha cu el’o ricibi tres tiro. Practicamente tur polis riba warda na e momento ei ariba Aruba a wordo manda na e sitio, pa asina sigura e sitio di incidente.
Den un situacion serio y delicado e agente policial a wordo hiba hospital. Na hospital segun informacion no oficial e agente policial a ricibi un bala den su man y un otro bala ta perfora un di su pulmonan. No por a logra confirma si e di tres bala a alcanse of no. E situacion di e polis ta serio pero stabil.

Mientrastanto pa mas o menos 02.45 dr. Jagua Fingal a costata morto di e hoben Franklin Anthony Gomez, na bida biba na Jan Flemming 12-A, Santa Cruz.
Na e sitio a presenta varios funcionario policial halto, fiscal, y tambe Lands Recherche.
Investigacion na e sitio a termina pa mas o menos 5.30.

Por a observa tambe na e sitio di e incidente, cu un vehiculo a ricibi dos perforacion di bala. Esaki ta crucial den e investigacion, ya cu esaki lo determina for di ki angulo a wordo dispara.

A compronde cu e surveillance di polis cu tabata envolvi den e caso aki tabata consisti di dos agente policial, cu ambos nan man a wordo getest pa asina determina ta cua di nan dos a tira, of sita tur dos a tira of no.

Mirando e seriedad di e caso aki, un total di tres miembro di Lands Recherche a presenta na e sitio di incidente, pa asina haci un investigacion preliminar den e caso serio aki. E investigacion aki mester determina si e agente policial (nan) a haci uso di nan arma di candela reglamentario corectamente, of cu otro palabra si e (nan) tabata tin derecho of no di usele.

Hecho ta si, cu e polis encuestion tabata bon entrena ya cu den e situacion cu e tabata aden toch a logra tira e sopechoso den cabes. Por a compronde na e sitio cu e dos gruponan aki ta dos grupo conoci pa polis, y cu tin basta tempo caba cu nan tin problema cu otro, y cu lo ta e mes un grupo cu tabata envolvi den e hortamento y destruccion di un vehiculo di polis un par di luna atras. Investigacion lo mester bai determina si e difunto a bai pa regla cuenta, of si e dos individuonan cu a baha for di e Tercel lo a dune un arma pa defende su mes for di otro grupo.
E incidente aki a pasa serca di e “Hot Corner” cu por tabata tin consecuencianan fatal pa nos industria turistico cu apenas a cuminsa recupera, si un di e proyectilnan aki a alcansa un turista.

Online Pap translation:

police injury owing to throw his aggressor kill
monday, 17 december 2007

oranjestad – yesterday owing to sosode one caso lamentable caminda one agent policial have to owing to using cu arm reglamentario for defende his life, after cu the aggressor owing to throw on dje. is so here cu diadomingo marduga alrededor of 2’or will owing to surgi one discusion strong among two are at the stair of conga, according testigonan.

at dado dado instant in the discusion here one tercel cora is strike stop fast the edificio already menciona caminda two individual is descend, y is saca one person for of the are. the same person here is go bek in one of the gruponan caminda the discusion owing to follow escala. at dado instant the individual is los one tiro, is place capuchon of his flanel on his cabes y owing to march go in direccion of the parkinglot of the bushalte. all the time police owing to arrive at the sitio y owing to achieve one good discripcion y in what direccion the aggressor owing to march go.

at instant cu the aggressor owing to ripara cu police was his slow owing to dicidi of los three tiro in direccion of one of the agent policial, of cua one ball is alcanse in his hand y one another in his pecho. do not conoci if the of three owing to succeed alcanse or not. according witness at the sitio after cu police owing to ricibi the three tironan here in his direccion police owing to los one tiro in direccion of the sopechoso y owing to alcansa the sospechoso in his cabes mortalmente. this owing to sosode just panort of parkinglot of the busnan of arubus.

owing to surgi one consternashon at the sitio, caminda was teme for her police his life. already cu owing to sospecha cu el’o ricibi three tiro. practicamente all police on keep at the instant there upstairs aruba owing to wordo send at the sitio, for so sigura the sitio of incidente.

in one situation earnest y delicado the agent policial owing to wordo take away hospital. at hospital according informacion not oficial the agent policial owing to ricibi one ball in his hand y one another ball is perfora one of his pulmonan. not can owing to succeed confirma if the of three ball owing to alcanse or not. the situation of the police is earnest but stable.

all the time for more or less 02.45 dr. jagua fingal owing to costata dead of the young franklin anthony gomez, at life live at jan flemming 12-a, santa cruz. at the sitio owing to present several funcionario policial high, fiscal, y also lands recherche. {?}

investigacion at the sitio owing to termina for more or less 5.30.

can owing to observa also at the sitio of the incidente, cu one vehiculo owing to ricibi two perforacion of ball. this is crucial in the investigacion, already cu this will determina for of what angulo owing to wordo dispara.

owing to compronde cu the surveillance of police cu was envolvi in the caso here was consisti of two agent policial, cu both they hand owing to wordo getest for so determina is cua of they two owing to throw, or sita all two owing to throw or not.

mirando the seriedad of the caso here, one overall of three acolyte of lands recherche owing to present at the sitio of incidente, for so haci one investigacion preliminar in the caso earnest here. the investigacion here have to determina if the agent policial (nan) owing to haci usage of they arm of candela reglamentario corectamente, or cu another word if the (nan) was have derecho or not of usele.

mature is if, cu the police encuestion was good entrena already cu in the situation cu the was inside yet owing to succeed throw the sopechoso in cabes. can owing to compronde at the sitio cu the two gruponan here is two are conoci for police, y cu have enough time end cu they have problem cu another, y cu will is the self one are cu was envolvi in the hortamento y destruccion of one vehiculo of police one pair of month behind. investigacion will have to go determina if the difunto owing to go for regulation cuenta, or if the two individuonan cu owing to descend for of the tercel will owing to dune one arm for defende his self for of another are. the incidente here owing to happen serca of the “hot corner” cu can was have consecuencianan fateful for we industry turistico cu barely owing to cuminsa recupera, if one of the proyectilnan here owing to alcansa one tourist.

[Tylergal]

When buying roses, I consider a meter about the height of my bar, which is 35 inches.

[Tamikosmom]

******* and San

I can access SM only if I directly link into a thread on the forum. 

Example:

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The following links do not work for me:

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Is this a problem from my end or ...

Thanks

Janet

[AZSunny]

I love the image of the test they conducted. 1 meter by 1 meter crab trap -- IN CRED A BLE....

This should give the guilty a reason to shake in their boots -- it looks like the jig might be up (so to speak) 

Where did you find this picture?  thanks!

It is here:  http://nholloway.blogspot.com/
Scroll down until you see brown.

Thanks Magnolia...by the way, do you have a great fudge recipe you want to share? I know this is OT but you have such great recipes!

[klaasend]

******* and San

I can access SM only if I directly link into a thread on the forum. 

Example:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=post;topic=2439.860;num_replies=865


The following links do not work for me:

www.scaredmonkeys.com
www.scaredmonkeys.net

Is this a problem from my end or ...

Thanks

Janet

The regular links work fine for me??  I have no idea what the problem is. 

[msmarple]

Is someone still posting all this stuff in the Murder & Crime thread?  What a God forsaken place that rock is.  Constant prayers for the search! 

Yes indeedy. (although a little backup would be good, folks - I might miss something!)

[Magnolia]

[/quote]Thanks Magnolia...by the way, do you have a great fudge recipe you want to share? I know this is OT but you have such great recipes!
[/quote]

O/T But this is my favorite and it never fails. with or without nuts.

3 cups sugar
3/4 cup butter
2/3 cup evaporated milk (Pet Milk)
1 12-oz. (340 g) package semi-sweet chocolate chips
1 7-oz. (198 g) jar Kraft Marshmallow creme
1 cup chopped nuts
1 tablespoon vanilla


Combine sugar, margarine and milk in heavy 2-1/2 quart saucepan; bring to full rolling bail, stirring constantly. Continue boiling 5 minutes over medium heat, stirring. Remove from heat, stir in chocolate till melted. Add marshmallow creme, nuts & vanilla beat till blended. Pour into greased 13 x 9-inch baking pan. Let cool and cut into 1-inch squares.

[Tamikosmom]

******* and San

I can access SM only if I directly link into a thread on the forum. 

Example:

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The following links do not work for me:

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www.scaredmonkeys.net

Is this a problem from my end or ...

Thanks

Janet

The regular links work fine for me??  I have no idea what the problem is. 

Thanks Klaas.

They work fine for me too.

Janet

[Tamikosmom]

No they don't!!

Klaas ... try accessing through the google address bar ... not just by clicking from the link I posted.

Thanks

Janet

[klaasend]

No they don't!!

Klaas ... try accessing through the google address bar ... not just by clicking from the link I posted.

Thanks

Janet

That works for me too.  Hopefully it's just a localized glitch that will resolve itself by tomorrow.

[ldstlou]

Good evening Monkeys. Just wanted to check on how the Persistance is doing.

[klaasend]

Good evening Monkeys. Just wanted to check on how the Persistance is doing.

So far so good.  Started searching today.  Kyle has updated the website:

http://nholloway.blogspot.com/

[Magnolia]

Good evening Monkeys. Just wanted to check on how the Persistance is doing.

They went out today and started the search, but were going to come
into port tonight.  Did you know that Robots is with them?
New infor in on their blog.