Natalee Case Discussion #704 12/11 - 12/18/2007

[Anna]

Gabby,

That's a very nice question and no one will laugh at you!  If they do, Klaas can remove it and I will punch them for you.

LOL!

[Tylergal]

Well, Michael Dompig was a huge liar according to his own father.  But was he?

If he is telling the truth, then we know who disposed of Natalee it would seem it was Paulus the next day.

I have always believed that Joran did put in an appearance at school but the headmaster said he was late and Paulus brought him.  I think Joran was still intoxicated and blathering one too much so Paulus came back and got him later in the day to shut him up.  But he had already told that story about Natalee hitting her head and he disposed of the body by pushing her out to sea. 

But we have been up against PR firm spin from the start not just Renfro and Purcell lies but the real pros not to mention the same from The Netherlands.

It's no wonder we are confused.  That was the idea from the start. 

There have been pros on the job and a tremendous amount of money spent to shape public perceptions in this.  Not about Sloots but about the big money on the island from the sleaze, tourists and financial irregularities.

My Opinion Only.

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I've never made up my mind about that Anna. Scratches were said to have been seen on Joran the next day or the day after that, but in Paulus's statement, he couldn't make up his mind whether Joran had gone to school or not, rode the bus or he took him or he rode with a friend, etc. That's way too unbelievable to swallow. They had been confronted by police in the wee hours of the morning and accused of kidnapping. Nobody forgets the events of the day before or after that under those circumstances.

Tacky's Rosemary said he took an exam the next day and made an A when exams were not scheduled for that week. This I do believe: Anita could easily arrange record of his attendance whether he was there or not.

Joran's school mates who used to post here and at RWV said he went to school, had scratches and a teacher took a picture of him with the scratches, said he slept off and on all day.  Further said the teacher was no longer teaching there when we asked about the pictures.  She had gone to BF Egypt or EThiopia or some desolate location.   There was one test scheduled that day and Joran took it and failed it, an English AP exam.  He scored 2/5 which equals 40.

[Anna]

I was thinking today about what if there is no fish trap involved and that was all just another bunchacrap and we have only a body bag with weights and tape and such.

I think that would be harder to find.  Hope the fish trap was used but wonder if Paulus could get one quickly enough.  The trap is the best bet for holding the remains together at all.

So I do hope one was used but was thinking about the what ifs.  Bad thing to do in a bummer mood and snit about Mos.

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[Tylergal]

Not just Paulus friends but world class PR firms from California to Amsterdam.

No I can't prove it but that's what I think and that's what I know.

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Big money, like only the evil ones collect for their political disasters.

[robots]

there is a VIDEO of paulus entering the casino...

somewhere..there must be

its HIM

[BUCKSHOT]

simple theory...

jk2 + nh leave cnc headed for a drive... drive takes them by the lighthouse at the northern end of the island...something bad happens here at the rocks...drive by sloot house, in panic...paulus gets involved...others, through paulus and j2k, get involved...multiple vehicles + multiple persons (not 10 - maybe 3-5) involved in early hours...setting up alibis begins...evidence cleaning begins(cars,shoes,apartment)...temporary body disposal site...next day...setting up alibis continue...evidence cleaning continues...final disposal plan is arranged...final disposal plan is executed...paulus judiciary connections are contacted and utilized throughout.

does this theory work ??

was body cremated / incinerated OR disposed at sea?

[robots]

i bet the dealer can remember the STENCH of when paulus sat down at the table

it is PAULUS

[Anna]

Yes, Tyler, one kid called Joran the kid with the bruise, very early.  Said they threw spitballs at him or what we would call that, they said paper from notebooks.

They used to communicate with us, some of his classmates but as word got out, that all stopped.

And the teacher went to Ethiopia where Hannie C went and also I think the headmaster for the summer after school was out.

Some sort of connection to that place via the Dutch but headmaster was expat American so don't know what it means if anything.

But he was there at least part of the day according to classmates and one teacher gave a PV and headmaster said late and Paulus brought him.  Then they all clammed up and later no one knew if he was even there or not because they had to make what he said at school that day go away.

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[klaasend]

Klaas? There used to be an extensive website about the Lion's Den, but it's long gone for me with my computer crash. I think you have a picture of the entrance though, don't you? The restaurant shows up pretty well.

Yes, I have is somewhere, hold on

[robots]

i still think the DUTCH are going to get them

but it wont BE MOS

it will be someone else that LEAKS out information... might take awhile
but someone there must be human

[crazybabyborg]

Klaas? There used to be an extensive website about the Lion's Den, but it's long gone for me with my computer crash. I think you have a picture of the entrance though, don't you? The restaurant shows up pretty well.

Yes, I have is somewhere, hold on

I knew she would....... she's our Klaas! 

[crazybabyborg]

i still think the DUTCH are going to get them

but it wont BE MOS

it will be someone else that LEAKS out information... might take awhile
but someone there must be human

I think DeVries is human, Robots, and yes, someone else there must be as well.

[Anna]

Sander already had the boat in the water.  Paulus knew where Anita's cousin kept the key.  Didn't need anybody else.

MO

[crazybabyborg]

SOMEWHERE in my posts is the link to the Lion's Den website that a couple of guys did extensive research on with lots of pictures.

[Anna]

IF, Big IF, Natalee was disposed of at sea, I think Paulus took the Gottenbos boat and did it himself with maybe Joran on Monday.

But I have also thought that Paulus and Joran dumped the remains in the Spanish Lagoon on the way to school the next morning soon as the two younger brothers left.

And I think this is what we are supposed to think, total confusion as this could have happened or that could have happened, all plausible and some sort of clues leaked to make one think that.

It's like Murder on the Orient Express, too many clues for the crime which is all too common these days. 

It doesn't just happen in Aruba but here as well now, this drugging and filming trash and posting on internet, etc.  I think that's what they had in mind but Joran being so stupid killed her before they could complete their plans.

Very common in the EU as well and drugs in Aruba are like water and likely cheaper. 

[BUCKSHOT]

paulus may need to see a doctor for his sleepwalking.

on the night in question, i can tell you with certainty that i went to sleep with my ATM card and, while still sleeping, drove my car to the bank and made several withdrawls from my account.

the lady, who works at the bank, that can verify my sleepwalking habits, has unfortunately commited suicide by hanging.

[klaasend]

Klaas? There used to be an extensive website about the Lion's Den, but it's long gone for me with my computer crash. I think you have a picture of the entrance though, don't you? The restaurant shows up pretty well.

Yes, I have is somewhere, hold on

Indo Restaurant



Lions Den Driveway







Lions Den Entrance



VIP next to Indo



VIP





Pair-O-Dice

[crazybabyborg]

Thank you Klaas! Yes, there's the VIP Club, and the restaurant!

[Anna]

SOMEWHERE in my posts is the link to the Lion's Den website that a couple of guys did extensive research on with lots of pictures.

Claussen Investigations, sometimes Project 112 but I thought they took all that down, could be wrong.

Hotshots website might have a link still.

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[robots]

Anna, it is possible they put Natalee on the boat that night and then figured out
what to do the next day..