Natalee Case Discussion #704 12/11 - 12/18/2007

[sirensong]

I it the Marriot that just sold, and Oduber is waiting for the Dutch to give Aruba the money?

I keep thinking about the Marriot "ping", follow the money, and dice men-casino owners?

There is something big being covered up here.  Everyone is too afraid of being killed.  Look at the local tv lady, then the cameraman "commiting suicide" after DeVries was down there looking around.  

[sirensong]

I swear my whole sentence didn't come out on that post.  It should have said "comitted suicide".  I am not drunk, honest.  And I hate to use spell check LOL

[sirensong]

WTH?  I am losing my mind.  First time I looked at my post, it was not complete.  Then I looked again after posting again, and it is fine.  Okay, back away from the computer.   Everyone say good night to sirensong.     Pretend she wasn't here.

[Nut44x4]

Anna, it is possible they put Natalee on the boat that night and then figured out
what to do the next day..

I have always said the final disposal (sorry ) was not the early morning hours she vanished...but the night after.

[MumInOhio]

Might be interesting to review what Dave had to say about Freddy's arrest: Pg. 139:

On August 26, the FBI called to inform us that the Kalpoe brothers had been arrested again along with Joran's friend Freddy Alexander Zedan-Arambatzis, twenty one, who was brought in for suspicion of another crime unrelated to Natalee. He had a website on which he called himself "Locoman Pimp." He was accused of taking photos of a minor female in "tempting poses" and showing them to other people. He was further suspected of having unspecified "physical contact" with the girl. The Kalpoe brothers and Joran were also considered suspects in the incident, which had occurred prior to Natalee's disappearance.

What happened to that case?  Let me guess....not enough evidence to prosecute.

At the end of August, 2005 ... "new" evidence warranted the rearresto of Deepak and Satish Kalpoe at the end of August, 2005 in regards tothe Natalee Holloway case.  Freddie was detain at the same time.  However ... it was claimed that Freddy was arrested on suspicions which were unrelated to the Natalee Holloway case.  Nevertheless ... Freddy was released along with Joran, Deepak, Satish and Freddy less than a week later.

Janet

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Diana Emerencia - Freddy's attorney
Decatur Daily News
August 31, 2005

http://www.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/news/050831/aruba.shtml
ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) — ...... A third man was arrested with the Kalpoes but his lawyer said Monday that it was unrelated to Holloway's disappearance.

Freddy Alexander Zedan-Arambatzis, a friend of van der Sloot and the Kalpoes, was arrested on suspicion of having unspecified "physical contact" with a female minor, said his lawyer, Diana Emerencia.

Zedan-Arambatzis, 21, is also suspected of photographing the girl in "tempting poses" and showing the images to other people, Emerencia said.

The Kalpoe brothers and van der Sloot are also suspected of involvement in the incidents, which allegedly occurred before Holloway disappeared, she said.

Emerencia said Zedan-Arambatzis has denied having any physical contact with the girl or taking photos of her, but has admitted to being present when the photos were taken.

The prosecutor's office declined to comment on the case.


Beth Twitty
NANCY GRACE
August 29, 2005

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE`S MOTHER: Well, Nancy, I would imagine that it means that they`ve gathered new evidence to warrant this re-arrest of the Kalpoe brothers. And there`s no way you`re going to convince me that Freddy`s arrest is a coincidence. You know, I`ve seen his name surface throughout my documentation that I`ve been keeping since as early as June 15th, so.

Thank You...Tamikosmom

[MumInOhio]

Anna, it is possible they put Natalee on the boat that night and then figured out
what to do the next day..

I have always said the final disposal (sorry ) was not the early morning hours she vanished...but the night after.

Read yesterday in my travels that Koen's boat was docked that night. Somewhere convenient, don't recall exactly where. Would make sense then about Paulus and the key.

[Nut44x4]

Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:37 pm
The DiceMen must be questioned.
They to go to the Music and enter the same Maze

Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:31 pm
Mary never heard the buoy toll
ask the men who play dice and “roll”

dice= a boat named 'pair a dice' as shown a few pages back ???

Yep....we all have gone over that 20 times with a fine tooth comb.

[Nut44x4]

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/hggghghhgfff.png

LOL..now that is just WRONG....LMAO!

[Nut44x4]

Yes indeed, siren...yes indeed. It is huge.

[BUCKSHOT]

Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:37 pm
The DiceMen must be questioned.
They to go to the Music and enter the same Maze

Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:31 pm
Mary never heard the buoy toll
ask the men who play dice and “roll”

dice= a boat named 'pair a dice' as shown a few pages back ???

Yep....we all have gone over that 20 times with a fine tooth comb.

love the sarcasm !!!

[BUCKSHOT]

this situation could get worse...

imagine if jk2 seek more ways to profit from this case...

deceased daughter - perpetrators become millionaires
how mad will that make everyone, especially the family?

[MumInOhio]

Lala's this is what Truthseeker posted this morning

Merian Ernest Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:18 pm Post subject: GSM Orwellian
What is wrong? The brothers had to be separated. The Babylonians have layed it thick and hard, but couldn't get what they asked for.

Tricked out cars and pc's. One decided to stay home and the other went to help. The Babylonians knew he was a bifrons. He bleeped on the screen all the way to Bill's lodgings.

And what do you think it means?

Lala's....amateur here and a bad one at that!

Just had a look at the big picture on the Discovery Log timeline and started rereading the Shango/Simian thread from the beginning:shock:

Will get back to you......

[NYC_lover]

Good Morning all,
how is everybody doing?

[snoopy]

Good Morning all,
how is everybody doing?

Good Morning NYC!!

Good Morning Everyone!!

[Frank]

Not good. Aruba is essentially holding Natalee hostage. Asking us to believe she's dead but not telling us how they know this.

Leaking misinformation regarding the b.s. overdose etc.

Aruba is responsible for kidnapping Natalee and continuing to hold her hostage. I am furious at our own government. Jean Akers, Spencer Bacchus etc.

All of this to protect joran? I don't think so. This is about Paulus. And not just about Paulus protecting his son, there is someone higher up directly involved.

Dana and even JQK keep saying there were mistakes, or bungling. No Way.

They unsolved this crime. Nobody screwed up.

[snoopy]

You're right Frank.  This should have been a solved case with Natalee returned to her family within 72 hours.  It was a solved case.  There's no mistake about it. JQK needs to start saying it for what it was/is.  Corruption.  No mistake.
I'll never forgive them.

[Tamikosmom]

When it is considered that once the case has been closed ... upon request from Natalee's family ... steps can be initiated by the American administration in regards to investigating the corrupt Aruban investigation which  has denied Natalee Holloway justice ... is it possible that Aruban will not closed the Natalee Holloway case?  Will Aruban allow it to become a cold case?  The implication ... the eighteen year old American citizen who did not return home from Aruban will become a distance memory.

Janet

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http://www.internationalextradition.com/netherlands_bi.htm
When the FBI Seeks Extradition
BILATERAL EXTRADITION TREATIES
NETHERLANDS


Art Wood
'Rita Cosby Live & Direct'
December 2, 2005

ART WOOD, FORMER SECRET SERVICE AGENT: Absolutely. Absolutely.  There's a lot that Americans can do through the State Department. I want to remind everybody that Natalee Holloway was a U.S. citizen. Once the Aruban authorities are done investigating this case, the FBI can still conduct an investigation, and they could extradite these suspects to the United States. Let me point out that there's a ton of circumstantial evidence in this case to convict these kids.

[Helen Back]

You would think that with an American family in crisis on Aruba, the US Consulate's office would be providing assistance, or at least some measure of comfort, to the AMERICAN family; aid in communication, translation, understanding the system, etc. 

Why would Jean Akers, US Vice Consul, be at the Sloot's celebrating Joran's release from detention in 2005?

[Helen Back]

I agree.  This is all about Paulus and his gang.

[Silverfox]

Enough of this crap!! 

Where is the "A" team when you need them

This is Mos ----------->

Paulus...Time for a diaper change... I THINK U B da 1!!! I THINK u did it!!!  Joran is covering for you, right sweaty dude?  You picked her out at the casino based on Joran's recommend...right?  Then Joran delivered her right to your doorstep while wifey and kids were away, right?  Did you have all your big wig buddies there 2?  Was it one of those "gang" thingys?  You know, like a tag team?  A team thing?  And when she unexpectely woke up what did you do? 

No wonder your buddies on the bench keep letting Joran and his friends go -- They know the truth, right?  Or were any of them there with you too? 

I say send Robots after him... I bet the truth will come in after only a few hours and several buckets of sweat, right?