Lively Case Discussion #514 8/19 - 8/21/2006

[sharon]

Well, as I've been pasting the old front page posts into notepad (what a frickin mess) so at least I can cut & paste if I can ever find anything....

an old post popped out -- and I thought I'd share



*we arent all whores

Comment by Koen | August 18, 2005, 6:55 pm

Is that from the SM front page?

Not the same Koen, trust me on this.

I figured not.

But I'm always interested in the work of the 'misinformation campaign'.

[klaasend]

Well, as I've been pasting the old front page posts into notepad (what a frickin mess) so at least I can cut & paste if I can ever find anything....

an old post popped out -- and I thought I'd share



*we arent all whores

Comment by Koen | August 18, 2005, 6:55 pm

Is that from the SM front page?

yes

In case you missed my post above, it's a different Koen.  Completely unrelated to the case.  Honest.

Edited to add, I think it was just a kid from the Netherlands putting in his 2 cents.

[Frijole]

Well, as I've been pasting the old front page posts into notepad (what a frickin mess) so at least I can cut & paste if I can ever find anything....

an old post popped out -- and I thought I'd share



*we arent all whores

Comment by Koen | August 18, 2005, 6:55 pm

WOW Sharon.  Did anyone respond to him? ha.  Good find.

[Easywriter]

I was just very busy with visitors from Aruba and Venezuela (they left this morning). Also, my grandson is here and is staying with us until we take him to college in Boca Raton. Of course I think of you and was going to write at any moment, but thank God you did so that I can immediately answer.

I think it's great he continues to write with you.  It's a great friendship you two have developed.

He is a friend!  He has been beatin down on the internet, but he is a good guy.

[Lala'sMom]

Satish June 11 statement:

My brother Deepak parked the car behind the former Ritsz building. After my brother had parked the car, the three of us walked to Carlos & Charlies. I saw that on the right side, when you walk into Carlos & Charlies, a group of Americans. I knew that they were Americans because they were talking in English.

Deepak June 11 statement:
We left Joran's place between 00:15 and 00:20 hours for "Carlos & Charlies". At that time my brother was driving. I was in the front seat and Joran was in the back. We arrived at "Carlos Si Charlie's” at approximately 00:30. My brother had parked the car on the parking lot behind "Carlos & Charlie's. We then walked in the direction of "Carlos & Charlies". In front of "Carlos & Charlie's there was a group of girls. Joran had noticed that these girls were also part of the group he met at the casino. Joran had greeted the girls and then we walked into "Carlos & Charlie's.

Joran June 9 statement:
After that we drove straight to Carlos & Charlies. Deepak was the driver but I cannot remember now who was sitting beside him. I do not remember now if it was Satish or me. I estimate that we arrived at Carlos & Charlies between 00.15 and 00.30 hours. Deepak parked his car on the parking lot behind Carlos & Charlies and after that we walked into the building of Carlos & Charlies. I don't have to pay because I have a VIP pass. With my VIP pass Deepak and Satish were also allowed in.


These 3 statements are very interesting.  Since there was a great deal of pressure on the Kalpoes by this time, I think there is more truth in their statements than Joran's.  Who was driving the car? Where was Joran riding in the car?  Why are these 3 so confused about these simple details...there is a reason.  This should be cut and dried here.  So and so drove and parked the car.  So and so was in the front passenger seat.  Very telling.

[Lala'sMom]

I haven't heard from None, but I am sure the family's grief is unbearable at this time.  Please remember them in your thoughts and prayers.  Also, if you don't mind return to the candle site and light another one.  She sees them and if it gives her strength in some small way then it has been worth the effort.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=None

Thanks for the reminder, Lalas.

I just went and looked, and some of the ones we lit the other day are almost burned out. It says they burn for 48 hours, so I lit a new one.

I am so impressed.  I read through quite a bit of the messages and we often forget that behind all those lurkers are some equally concerned human beings.  Just because they don't chime in, doesn't mean they don't care.  There was a candle lit from a lurker from China.  That really touched me.

Actually, there have been many candles lit by some of our former monkeys.  I have been impressed as well.  Even Debbie from BFN has been there.  So touching.

[sharon]

Well, as I've been pasting the old front page posts into notepad (what a frickin mess) so at least I can cut & paste if I can ever find anything....

an old post popped out -- and I thought I'd share



*we arent all whores

Comment by Koen | August 18, 2005, 6:55 pm

WOW Sharon.  Did anyone respond to him? ha.  Good find.

Actually it was the last post on the thread (the old front page could get long) so there were no answers.

But I doubted it was Koen -- as Klaas confirmed. Not to say he didn't post on the front page -- but I doubt he would use his real name.lol

I've just been on a mission ever since Klaas 'outed' WW. I like to track back to things we know were made up to see who started it.

Looking for all the people who lied to us  

[Kat_Gram]

A bit off what we are talking about, but this is a guy I would like to hear more from.
Bo Dietl. Would always want to be on his side, and not the other like the Sloots. Hope he is still on this case in any way shape or form.
http://www.beaudietl.com/page.php?id=67&PHPSESSID=2932c1032e56e54445929899566b06d7

[memphis]

Satish June 11 statement:

My brother Deepak parked the car behind the former Ritsz building. After my brother had parked the car, the three of us walked to Carlos & Charlies. I saw that on the right side, when you walk into Carlos & Charlies, a group of Americans. I knew that they were Americans because they were talking in English.

Deepak June 11 statement:
We left Joran's place between 00:15 and 00:20 hours for "Carlos & Charlies". At that time my brother was driving. I was in the front seat and Joran was in the back. We arrived at "Carlos Si Charlie's” at approximately 00:30. My brother had parked the car on the parking lot behind "Carlos & Charlie's. We then walked in the direction of "Carlos & Charlies". In front of "Carlos & Charlie's there was a group of girls. Joran had noticed that these girls were also part of the group he met at the casino. Joran had greeted the girls and then we walked into "Carlos & Charlie's.

Joran June 9 statement:
After that we drove straight to Carlos & Charlies. Deepak was the driver but I cannot remember now who was sitting beside him. I do not remember now if it was Satish or me. I estimate that we arrived at Carlos & Charlies between 00.15 and 00.30 hours. Deepak parked his car on the parking lot behind Carlos & Charlies and after that we walked into the building of Carlos & Charlies. I don't have to pay because I have a VIP pass. With my VIP pass Deepak and Satish were also allowed in.


These 3 statements are very interesting.  Since there was a great deal of pressure on the Kalpoes by this time, I think there is more truth in their statements than Joran's.  Who was driving the car? Where was Joran riding in the car?  Why are these 3 so confused about these simple details...there is a reason.  This should be cut and dried here.  So and so drove and parked the car.  So and so was in the front passenger seat.  Very telling.

[Frijole]

Well, as I've been pasting the old front page posts into notepad (what a frickin mess) so at least I can cut & paste if I can ever find anything....

an old post popped out -- and I thought I'd share



*we arent all whores

Comment by Koen | August 18, 2005, 6:55 pm

WOW Sharon.  Did anyone respond to him? ha.  Good find.

Actually it was the last post on the thread (the old front page could get long) so there were no answers.

But I doubted it was Koen -- as Klaas confirmed. Not to say he didn't post on the front page -- but I doubt he would use his real name.lol

I've just been on a mission ever since Klaas 'outed' WW. I like to track back to things we know were made up to see who started it.

Looking for all the people who lied to us  

About 6 months ago I went to Tripadvisor original posts and SM original posts... for same reason. My brain got fried after reading 2 mos. worth of stuff so I applaud your patience.

[Bearlyhere]

I've just been on a mission ever since Klaas 'outed' WW. I like to track back to things we know were made up to see who started it.

Looking for all the people who lied to us  

I remember WW and her antagonism.  (That's my polite version!)  What do you mean outted?

[Lala'sMom]

Deepak June 11:
When we got inside we walked to the bar. At the bar Joran talked to a boy I know by face only. He had bought a drink for him and the boy. The drink is called "Carribean Motherfxxxxx".

Joran June 9:
Deepak, Satish and myself walked to the bar. There we bought a "Yard Whisky Coke". Such a drink costs U.S. $ 12,-. It is a plastic cup and it comes in different colours. I payed for all three drinks.

I asked the bartender two shots of Bacardi 151. I still had the whisky coke in my hand. Natalee asked me if she should drink the Bacardi 151 in one go. I answered her affirmatively and she answered me that she would do it in two. Natalee said to me that she needed a "chaser" in order to drink the Bacardi. Natalee drank my whisky coke as a "chaser" and then she drank the Bacardi 151 in two goes. I payed for the two shots of Bacardi 151.
I payed U.S. $ 20,- for the two shots of Bacardi 151.

Satish June 11:
We started walking again until we got to the bar. Joran had bought three Yard Whisky coke for us.


Let's see here..
unidentified boy's drink...$12.00
Joran, Satish, Deepak "yard" drinks... $36.00
two shots of Bacardi 151...$20.00

Good Heavens!!!  That's $68.00 from a 17 year old kid in high school!!!!!!
For someone that doesn't take any money from his gambling winnings, he sure does have some to throw around after midnight. And to think it was all done by a teenager that wasn't old enough to drive or drink, much less, buy all the drinks for everyone.  This is a pattern of behaviour if I ever saw one...20 times or more...I'd bet more.

[SunnyinTX]

Good Afternoon Monks!  Hope all is well...would you explain the bolded portion below re Klaas outing WW??  I musta missed it altogether!!  thanks

sharon...another good find for you, Thanks!!

Actually it was the last post on the thread (the old front page could get long) so there were no answers.

But I doubted it was Koen -- as Klaas confirmed. Not to say he didn't post on the front page -- but I doubt he would use his real name.lol

I've just been on a mission ever since Klaas 'outed' WW. I like to track back to things we know were made up to see who started it.
Looking for all the people who lied to us  

[Easywriter]

I was just very busy with visitors from Aruba and Venezuela (they left this morning). Also, my grandson is here and is staying with us until we take him to college in Boca Raton. Of course I think of you and was going to write at any moment, but thank God you did so that I can immediately answer.

Everyone's okay. Am doing a lot of work also, when these guests allowed me some time, on my books. I have finished translating 8 of them and am now about to finish my fifth novel.

Hope everything's allright with you and your family and that you are enjoying yourself in this summer that's about to expire. School I notice has already started full speed in Miami and traffic becomes slower in their vicinities. It is very hot and humid here, unlike Aruba. In Aruba there's always the tradewinds that blow strong across the island and take away some of the heat.

[Bearlyhere]

Deepak June 11:
When we got inside we walked to the bar. At the bar Joran talked to a boy I know by face only. He had bought a drink for him and the boy. The drink is called "Carribean Motherfxxxxx".

Joran June 9:
Deepak, Satish and myself walked to the bar. There we bought a "Yard Whisky Coke". Such a drink costs U.S. $ 12,-. It is a plastic cup and it comes in different colours. I payed for all three drinks.

I asked the bartender two shots of Bacardi 151. I still had the whisky coke in my hand. Natalee asked me if she should drink the Bacardi 151 in one go. I answered her affirmatively and she answered me that she would do it in two. Natalee said to me that she needed a "chaser" in order to drink the Bacardi. Natalee drank my whisky coke as a "chaser" and then she drank the Bacardi 151 in two goes. I payed for the two shots of Bacardi 151.
I payed U.S. $ 20,- for the two shots of Bacardi 151.

Satish June 11:
We started walking again until we got to the bar. Joran had bought three Yard Whisky coke for us.


Let's see here..
unidentified boy's drink...$12.00
Joran, Satish, Deepak "yard" drinks... $36.00
two shots of Bacardi 151...$20.00

Good Heavens!!!  That's $68.00 from a 17 year old kid in high school!!!!!!
For someone that doesn't take any money from his gambling winnings, he sure does have some to throw around after midnight. And to think it was all done by a teenager that wasn't old enough to drive or drink, much less, buy all the drinks for everyone.  This is a pattern of behaviour if I ever saw one...20 times or more...I'd bet more.

Exactly, Lala's, that's what I keep saying and this was only a "short" night.  Can you imagine how much a planned one sets him back?

[Bearlyhere]

Deepak June 11:
When we got inside we walked to the bar. At the bar Joran talked to a boy I know by face only. He had bought a drink for him and the boy. The drink is called "Carribean Motherfxxxxx".

Joran June 9:
Deepak, Satish and myself walked to the bar. There we bought a "Yard Whisky Coke". Such a drink costs U.S. $ 12,-. It is a plastic cup and it comes in different colours. I payed for all three drinks.

I asked the bartender two shots of Bacardi 151. I still had the whisky coke in my hand. Natalee asked me if she should drink the Bacardi 151 in one go. I answered her affirmatively and she answered me that she would do it in two. Natalee said to me that she needed a "chaser" in order to drink the Bacardi. Natalee drank my whisky coke as a "chaser" and then she drank the Bacardi 151 in two goes. I payed for the two shots of Bacardi 151.
I payed U.S. $ 20,- for the two shots of Bacardi 151.

Satish June 11:
We started walking again until we got to the bar. Joran had bought three Yard Whisky coke for us.


Let's see here..
unidentified boy's drink...$12.00
Joran, Satish, Deepak "yard" drinks... $36.00
two shots of Bacardi 151...$20.00

Good Heavens!!!  That's $68.00 from a 17 year old kid in high school!!!!!!
For someone that doesn't take any money from his gambling winnings, he sure does have some to throw around after midnight. And to think it was all done by a teenager that wasn't old enough to drive or drink, much less, buy all the drinks for everyone.  This is a pattern of behaviour if I ever saw one...20 times or more...I'd bet more.

Exactly, Lala's, that's what I keep saying and this was only a "short" night.  Can you imagine how much a planned one sets him back?

Follow the money.

[KatzHome]

Everyone's fine, thank you. Am still in Miami and will be here for a while, to do my books.
 
Joran is playing with fire and is going to get burned. He's become too visible again and acts as though he is convinced he cannot be arrested again. Let's wait and see what happens when everything is said and done.
 
How are you? How's your project coming?.

 

Hey Easy!  Thanks for this post!!!  The next time you write, please send him our love.

This little note has given me a lot of hope ~ it ain't over...

[Easywriter]

Ha Ha!

[Bearlyhere]

Thanks, Easy, for posting that.  I hope you are feeling stronger today.

[KatzHome]

I was just very busy with visitors from Aruba and Venezuela (they left this morning). Also, my grandson is here and is staying with us until we take him to college in Boca Raton. Of course I think of you and was going to write at any moment, but thank God you did so that I can immediately answer.

Oh yeah, Easy ~ I meant to wish you the best on whatever project that you're working on that is mentioned in your last post...  but I forgot to tack it on before I posted...  

My Aunt lives in Boca Raton...  it's a nice place.