Lively Case Discussion #514 8/19 - 8/21/2006

[Peaches]

Good morning.  Nice to see ya, Mastiffs.

[San]

Hello to evryone, I have been away for quite a long time.  Trying to catch up, but, things seem to be too messy for me to un-tangle.

I did want to say this about Aruba and what they don't want to share with the U.S.  It is amazing that 10 years after the JonBenet case, something is going on.  Maybe we will see an end to this.  AMazing what happens when the police know and care enough to try and solve a case.  Certainly these young jerks cannot have been smart as to have wiped out all traces of infor from the hard drives and/or cell phone records.

Many months ago I had been quite involved in the Holloway case.  Reading and adding my two cents worth every now and again.  I posted  several times about the rough road area, or lack of roads around the Lighthouse.  I had described one area in the back to the right facing the Lighthouse, that looked like a dumping ground used by people who frequented the place to drink and/or have sex.  Many, many broken bottles, all sorts of junk like shoes, food containers, etc.,  This area was half paved, like they dropped the extra asphalt there when they finished.  Beyond that mess the walking was very difficult.  Huge peieces of limestone and huge cracks between the rocks, some areas were very smooth but  also steep.  I had also mentioned that at the top of the road leading up to the lighthouse; a thick speed bump was across the road.  We were in a toyota sedan, and had to almost go over it with the car just barely rolling so as not to bottom out.  I cannot believe that Deepak would have gone up there.  I do not rule out the possibility of the strange area where the park workers were later seen "painting" rocks; as well as whatever strange antics took place in that same area with items going into or coming out of police car trunks.  At that time, another poster poo-pooed my statement.  Saying she had been to the Lighthouse many times and even on horseback but she had never, never seen what I had described at the top.

Just to add another remark to someones question:  What is she doing with him?  Do we know about a friendship/relationship they may have had in the Netherlands?  Obviously from the photos of her on the zorpia site she has travelled around.  Some woman like to have "scary" men in their lives.  For all we know, maybe she has her own scary side.  She may have known he was from Aruba and paid for him to escort her to his homeland to show her around.   Burning question in my head::: why doesn't Joran ever wearing a swimsuit or shorts?  He does look pretty silly on the beach all covered up and her hardly covered.

Okay, I feel better now that I have spoken to my cyber-friends.

I agree mastiffs22 that this girl has been around.  What she sees in Joran I will never know.  Why would she put that current picture of herself and Joran on her home page.  I have seen other pictures of her friends and Joran doesn't fit the mold.  Is she playing some sort of game or is she enjoying her current fame of being with Joran.  If she is her parents better talk to her and quick.

I agree that Joran looks like an idiot on the beach.  He looks totally out of place for some reason.

[blah]

Fabienne Maessen - This is the girl that Joran was with at the Marriott recently - she is now living in the Netherlands

http://www.zorpia.com/Fab0910

i just clicked on this girls zorpia site and then clicked on one of her friends(bridgete)  and her friend had pictures of women having sex with dogs.  VERY disgusting.  These people are absolute sickos.

[mishy]

Completely OT! Oh my gosh, I think that I may have discovered the root of many of the difficulties that Justin has! We've known for years that he has ADHD, and in more ones, an anxiety disorder. Also have known that he's a bright kid. I stumbled across a site about gifted children, which led me to research more re: their characteristics, and ultimately children who are both gifted and have ADHD.  Still much to determine with this, and luckily he is now in a school system that actually gives a chit and wants to assess him out the wazoo, in order to help him reach his potential, not just to get him to be "good".  Justin has been deeply impacted by our move from Indy, and is grieving. However, in the long run, this may well be the best thing that has happened for him in a long while. I am so excited and hopeful!

Hey Justinsmama,

I'm so thrilled to hear that Justin is in a good school where people understand and want to help him reach his maximum potential. I was one of those gifted kids with ADHD and anxiety and the myriad of behavioral problems that went along with it. I was really a miserable kid! I pray that Justin can thrive in  his new surroundings and find some happiness there. It's always hard to accept change, especially in kids like Justin, I think...It's still hard for me to deal with any type of change or loss....<sigh> Especially loss  

[mishy]

Fabienne Maessen - This is the girl that Joran was with at the Marriott recently - she is now living in the Netherlands

http://www.zorpia.com/Fab0910


i just clicked on this girls zorpia site and then clicked on one of her friends(bridgete)  and her friend had pictures of women having sex with dogs.  VERY disgusting.  These people are absolute sickos.

               

[Easywriter]

I had to jump through hoops to sign up to that zorpia site and they will probably drain my bank accounts, but I sent her a message. lol

[klaasend]

I had to jump through hoops to sign up to that zorpia site and they will probably drain my bank accounts, but I sent her a message. lol

Goodmorning all!


Easy - too funny.  Can't wait to find out if she responds!

[blah]

I had to jump through hoops to sign up to that zorpia site and they will probably drain my bank accounts, but I sent her a message. lol

she was online like 15 minutes ago, did she respond?

[blah]

I had to jump through hoops to sign up to that zorpia site and they will probably drain my bank accounts, but I sent her a message. lol

she was online like 15 minutes ago, did she respond?

looks like she removed the link to the girls having sex with the dogs.  That was friggen disgusting!!!!!!

[Easywriter]

I had to jump through hoops to sign up to that zorpia site and they will probably drain my bank accounts, but I sent her a message. lol

Goodmorning all!


Easy - too funny.  Can't wait to find out if she responds!

She was "online" when I sent the message and she signed off right after that.  I was direct and just asked if she was willing to talk.  I guess someone will have to go undercover. lol

[Easywriter]

She's back!

[mishy]

I had to jump through hoops to sign up to that zorpia site and they will probably drain my bank accounts, but I sent her a message. lol

she was online like 15 minutes ago, did she respond?

looks like she removed the link to the girls having sex with the dogs.  That was friggen disgusting!!!!!!

Hmmmm, wonder if she's reading here???

[Leslie]

Diario
http://www.diarioaruba.com/
Amigoe
http://www.amigoe.com/english/
BonDia
http://www.cspnv.com/archivo/pdf/August/
Solo di Pueblo
http://www.solodipueblo.com/
Translator:
http://papiamentu.donamaro.nl

[Easywriter]

She checked out my profile, but she has not answered my PM's.

[friend of monkeys]

Klaas,

Sorry forgot the second "a"  but you still are a Klass (Class) act.

Monkeys keep to the good work

IBE - Shango is not a problem in this thread.  I don't think it's necessary to create another Code thread like we had before.  There's not enough news right now to keep two threads moving in the case anyway.

I have long believed in Shango and Simian.

morning Klass...all the monkkeys....
I wonder if someday Shango or Simian will write a book......if i knew so much about this i could not hold onto it forever.....

MJ never answered any of my questions re the other guard or if he signed release to get out of jail....have not heard from him since that day....he does not like to talk about the case.....maybe he can come visit and we can trade soup recipies...

RED---looking forward to checking out RE site...u r a busy man.....w/ a great woman of course at your side....hi to Tom too...
I am soooooo glad i waited on buying a house here. one i was really int in was 349 in June....now @290.....
i am stating put in my little crack shack....plus i have not figured out how to change a light bulb....prob shouldn't get a house...lol

[Nut44x4]

I had to jump through hoops to sign up to that zorpia site and they will probably drain my bank accounts, but I sent her a message. lol

she was online like 15 minutes ago, did she respond?

looks like she removed the link to the girls having sex with the dogs.  That was friggen disgusting!!!!!!

I noticed that too. She is either reading here or someone she knows is and warned her. Freaking freaks. Anything goes, I guess. Makes me sick.

[San]

I had to jump through hoops to sign up to that zorpia site and they will probably drain my bank accounts, but I sent her a message. lol

she was online like 15 minutes ago, did she respond?

looks like she removed the link to the girls having sex with the dogs.  That was friggen disgusting!!!!!!

Hmmmm, wonder if she's reading here???

How much you want to bet she is reading here.

I don't see the photo of her with Joran on the beach anymore.  Unless I am looking in the wrong place.

[Buckeye]

Easy

Hope you're using a gorilla facade.......she isn't sounding like the "sock monkey" type.

[Nut44x4]

I had to jump through hoops to sign up to that zorpia site and they will probably drain my bank accounts, but I sent her a message. lol

she was online like 15 minutes ago, did she respond?

looks like she removed the link to the girls having sex with the dogs.  That was friggen disgusting!!!!!!

I noticed that too. She is either reading here or someone she knows is and warned her. Freaking freaks. Anything goes, I guess. Makes me sick.

I do not believe you will (or anyone here) get any real answers from her. It is obvious she is just as much of a freak as all her friends and will just lie to cover them. Same ole' story, different day, month, year.

[blah]

I had to jump through hoops to sign up to that zorpia site and they will probably drain my bank accounts, but I sent her a message. lol

she was online like 15 minutes ago, did she respond?

looks like she removed the link to the girls having sex with the dogs.  That was friggen disgusting!!!!!!

I noticed that too. She is either reading here or someone she knows is and warned her. Freaking freaks. Anything goes, I guess. Makes me sick.

you know, I really hate to even say this but i think it has to be thought out.  Seeing that link brings all new meaning to when Deepak said  that he brought 2 dogs.

these people seem to be capable of just about anything after seeing that sick website.